Kiwanuka accuses Samuels of dirty play(merged)

[Soup]

The Giants always cry about the skins. This is going on three years that I've heard or read a giant player crying about the redskins. I think Tiki said he hated playing the redskins because he would always get punched or kneed in the ribs. God I hope one day the skins put a team on the field that can win the division just to rub it in those Giant, Eagle and Cowboy fans.

[HawaiianStyle]

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

[GoSkins0721]

so where is the video on this?

I was at the game and didn't see any 'dirty' hit. And pierce saying anthing after the spear he layed on CP is a freaking joke.

Kiwanpuka is just trying to cover for getting smoked by CP, a guy 75 lbs less than him.

Get a pair, Kiwanpuka.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

There is no crying in football!!!!

[Merlin Emrys]

There also isn't any place for whinning the the NFL. So STFU!!!

[motorhead]

Dang I thought that we were playing football and not ring around the rosie!

:doh:

[motorhead]

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

We got a troll?

:obvious:

[chow184]

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

so sad so many people in this world are fools

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

[Tom [Giants fan]]

It's understandable why lots of players get upset; it's also understandable why most don't go whining and crying about it to the media. Get it?

He spoke his mind. Maybe he was asked about the play. He felt the play could have been done differently and he let it be known. Get it?

[Springfield]

There are two choices in this scenario...

1. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, gives up on the play and Campbell gets blindsided. Campbell fumbles, gets sacked, gets injured.

2. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, doesn't give up and does everything at all possible to protect his QB. This may mean a dirty shot, a penalty, a fine. The QB is alright though, no fumble, sack or injury.

I'd take option #2 thank you very much. Dirty play or not, Samuels did the right thing.

[Mooka]

There are two choices in this scenario...

1. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, gives up on the play and Campbell gets blindsided. Campbell fumbles, gets sacked, gets injured.

2. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, doesn't give up and does everything at all possible to protect his QB. This may mean a dirty shot, a penalty, a fine. The QB is alright though, no fumble, sack or injury.

I'd take option #2 thank you very much. Dirty play or not, Samuels did the right thing.

Its called a hold and it doesn't hurt anyone. Going low like that is unnecessary.

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

Looked exactly like that to me and it wouldn't be the first time from Samuels. He gets frustrated sometimes.

[Riggins77]

Sounds like Kiwanuka needs to exchange his pads for a pink tutu.

or another pad

[skins fan1010]

"...Kiwanuka was upset, especially after missing the final six games of last season with a broken lower leg that also caused ligament damage to his ankle..."

Glass jaw Kiwanukaw

[ddyork]

it was clearly a cheap shot out of frustration so sad yall dont see it that way

Sorry it makes you so sad. On another topic, it kinda made me sad that after Kendall dislodged Pierce's helmet, that Kendall didn't take a swing at Pierce. How about Pierce's cheap shot later on....

[NewCliche21]

Uh, a Giants player talking about unsportsmanlike conduct after that game is like Randle-El talking about pre-snap penalties.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

Glass jaw Kiwanukaw

Kiwanuka?

[Mr. S]

it happens all the time with linemen on both sides. Dirty plays happen all over w/o most people realizing it. A friend of mine is really good friends with a starting center in the league (went to the same high school) and the center tells my friend about all sorts of dirty things everyone gets away with.

[Jshock]

I didnt think it was dirty. I do have one question why does everyone hate pierce? He left because that terrible front office decided they didnt want him. Snyder/Cerrato = brutal. No depth and brutal contracts.

[InTikiITrust]

There are two choices in this scenario...

1. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, gives up on the play and Campbell gets blindsided. Campbell fumbles, gets sacked, gets injured.

2. Samuels gets beat by Kiwanuka, doesn't give up and does everything at all possible to protect his QB. This may mean a dirty shot, a penalty, a fine. The QB is alright though, no fumble, sack or injury.

I'd take option #2 thank you very much. Dirty play or not, Samuels did the right thing.

So if the QB is OK at the end of the day, it's not a dirty play? If Samuels cracks Kiwi's leg in half intentionally but Campbell is OK, is it still clean play?

[mAshparie36]

like anyone cares what kiwanuka thinks. someone tell him to not get dropped by a rb and become a pro bowler before he starts accusing one.

[J-tee_nfl]

You could tell by Samuels' immediate reaction that it wasn't intentional.

I am ashamed of myself though because when it happened I laughed and said "**** you New York"...

LOL....it funny cuz i said the same thing....:gaintsuck:gaintsuck

[Springfield]

So if the QB is OK at the end of the day, it's not a dirty play? If Samuels cracks Kiwi's leg in half intentionally but Campbell is OK, is it still clean play?

I wouldn't say intentionally injure the guy, but if you have to do something that will potentially draw a flag to keep your QB from getting blind-sided, so be it.

If it makes you feel any better, I would expect the Giants O line to do the same thing in order to protect Eli. It is football, a full contact sport.

[skins fan1010]

Kiwanuka?

Hilarious. I didn't think there would be a chance in hell anyone would know what I was talking about. I hated that game because glass jaw beat me half the time.

[BigRedskinDaddy]

;5502358']Come on guys' date=' if it happened to a Redskins player you guys would be up in arms calling for someone's head. I was very upset at first but looking at it again, the hold/tackle was intentional but not landing on his leg. Kiwanuka suffered a broken leg last year so he is probably more sensitive to something like this than other players would be.

And give me a break with the comments about him crying, whining, he needs to man up, and all the other one's that are similar. His season could have easily been ended on that play.

It wasn't intentional but given what happened to him last year, it is understandable why he is upset.[/quote']

Agreed. O linemen hold when they're beaten all the time, its better to take the 10 than allow a hit - and a blindside hit at that - on your QB. I understand Kiwi was upset over his previous injury, but he's played against Samuels before. He knows Chris isn't a dirty player. I'm sure once he slept on it he woke up with a different perspective on the play.