Cruising270 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- New York Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka alleged on Friday that Washington Redskins tackle Chris Samuels made a dirty play when he fell on the back of his ankle after being beaten on a pass rush on the final play of the NFL season opener.Kiwanuka hurt his left ankle on the play. X-rays were negative, but the ankle was still sore on Friday, and so was Kiwanuka. Replays showed that Kiwanuka beat Samuel to the outside on a pass rush and started moving toward Redskins quarterback Jason Campbell in the waning seconds of the Giants' 16-7 victory. Samuels quickly turned and made a low lunging tackle, wrapping his arms around Kiwanuka's legs. His upper torso pinned Kiwanuka's left ankle. "Honestly, I thought it was a dirty play," Kiwanuka said. "There's no question about it. He was definitely beat and instead of recovering or giving up, I don't know how many options you had, but I just don't think there is any place for that in the NFL." Samuels was not in the Redskins locker room on Friday and was not immediately available for comment. However, replays also showed Samuels wave his arms in a move that suggested that he was upset after the play. He stood over Kiwanuka as Giants trainers came on the field. "Samuels, I spoke to him right after and he said it wasn't intentional and I will just leave that at that," Giants coach Tom Coughlin said Friday. Kiwanuka was upset, especially after missing the final six games of last season with a broken lower leg that also caused ligament damage to his ankle. "I don't think there is any place for that in professional football," he said. Kiwanuka also wasn't buying the idea that Samuels was trying to protect his quarterback. "That doesn't matter. Honestly, you take hits," Kiwanuka said. "I took a big hit during the game and at this level, this is something that happens. Even the greatest players get knocked down. You have to stand back up, be a man and line up for the next snap. Something like that, I would never do it, having been out for the end of last season I know how valuable these games are. I would never do it to anybody, and I wouldn't expect anyone to do it to me." Click here for rest of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttr77 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 It wasn't intentional, but if that happened to Carter or Taylor, this entire board would be up in arms right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Tough that was a great play to protect our QB who would have been blindsided by a hard charging DE. Great job Samuels I hope all our players do everything and everything possible to protect our QB's. If he thinks Samuel's tried to deliberately injure him, than he is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 It wasn't intentional, but if that happened to Carter or Taylor, this entire board would be up in arms right now... Yeah, but Kiwanuka was going to take a kill shot on Campbell and that would have been just as dirty, so Samuels did what he had to do to protect his QB...that's football. The giants are whinny little you know whats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 You could tell by Samuels' immediate reaction that it wasn't intentional. I am ashamed of myself though because when it happened I laughed and said "**** you New York"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Kiwanuka has to stand up and be a man as well, this is a contact sport and he got a boo boo. If the grown man is that sore about it then lay down and take a nap, or ask someone for a hug sissy boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Shut up Kiwanuka you big B..ch! :cry::cry: Portis owns you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Did he honestly expect Samuels to "give up"? Intentional or not, that's apart of the game. Man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanikusa Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Was it intentional? I'm not Samuels so I don't know. I'll respond with another question... Did Brandon Jacobs intentionally punch Marcus Washington? Uh, not once but twice - missed with the first, connected with the second . Oh, and nobody seems to have noticed the play before that. After a clean tackle by Washington, Jacobs got up, KICKED Washington, and headed back to the huddle. The Giants don't have any moral ground to complain about that game. Take your hard-earned victory and shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Landry30- Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 It doesn't look intentional to me, not at all. It's funny that the Giants are calling Samuels "dirty", their O-line was cutting all game that is considered "dirty" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I remember the play from last night. Samuels got beat and he protected his QB. Samuels is not a dirty player and I doubt meant to hurt the guy. Whenever people talk about being a man I always get the feeling they are self-conscious about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 heard an interview with pierce this morning, he vouched for samuels as a player, person and didn't think the play was dirty... basically said Kiwanuka's gonna see that from any olineman in the league that gets beat... welcome back to playing DE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dy44 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 what comes around goes around. The Giants played dirty the whole first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Terrapin Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Sounds like Kiwanuka needs to exchange his pads for a pink tutu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFC Beast Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Yeah, but Kiwanuka was going to take a kill shot on Campbell and that would have been just as dirty, so Samuels did what he had to do to protect his QB...that's football. The giants are whinny little you know whats. What? A sack on your QB would be a dirty play?!?! yeah, ok. Go back to peewee football man. Kiwi got past him and samuels tackled him by the knees. 100% cheap shot whether he tried to injure or not. I dont think he tried to injure, but it was still a dirty play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 What? A sack on your QB would be a dirty play?!?! yeah, ok. Go back to peewee football man. Kiwi got past him and samuels tackled him by the knees. 100% cheap shot whether he tried to injure or not. I dont think he tried to injure, but it was still a dirty play. What's dirty about it? OL get beat all the time, that's why they hold. If you can recall, Samuels got flagged for holding on that play. Just so happens that he fell on his leg afterwards. But the word is Mathias is ok, so whats the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I truly dont give a blessed wet fart what kalamazou whozits had to say. Saints next please. Time to move on. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFC Beast Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 What's dirty about it?OL get beat all the time, that's why they hold. If you can recall, Samuels got flagged for holding on that play. Just so happens that he fell on his leg afterwards. But the word is Mathias is ok, so whats the big deal? it was bush. I didnt see any of our lineman diving at Carter or anyone elses legs after getting beat for a sack. Its just not right. Kiwi easily could have broke his leg again. Its cheap. Very bush league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He was tackled somewhat gently, in my opinion (leg tackled not hammered down from behind) by Samuels, it's not like he twisted his foot or anything. I guess Samuels fell on his foot or something when the toe was pointed to the turf? I don't see how the injury happened otherwise. Samuels didn't dive at his leg, NFCBEast. He tackled him like many running backs are tackled, by the legs. A clean wrap up but DEFINITELY not diving at someone's knees or even ankles. It was an outright tackle. A hold, certainly, but not a dirty play. Not dirty at all. Dirty would have been what the Giants were all game long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 **** Kiwanuka Big Chris was doing his job, protecting his QB. You didn't hear LaRon Landry cry when he got trucked by Brandon Jacobs, he got back in there and played like a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Brown Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 whatever kiwi, not a big deal and wasn't intentional. Didn't he get in trouble in college for some dirty play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 it was bush. I didnt see any of our lineman diving at Carter or anyone elses legs after getting beat for a sack. Its just not right. Kiwi easily could have broke his leg again. Its cheap. Very bush league. What's the OL job?..... Protect the QB. What did Samuels do?..... Protect his QB. Should Chris have just let Mathias cream Jason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailskinz1991 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I guess no one saw Kiwanuka's hold on Cooley? He grabbed him around the neck basically choke slamming him, so that Cooley wouldn't be open...it was a hard fought game tempers were flaring all over the place. What are you gonna do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fear Our D! Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I accuse Kiwanuka of being a ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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