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imo xbox360= Chevrolet Corvette C6

PS3 = some 150-200k italian sports car

ie both are great, nice if u can afford the italian sports car, get more, edges it out performance wise..but bang for the buck and as much as you get, a C6 is great fun.

I have a Wii and a 360, still will get a ps3 at some point down the road as the better games come out.

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Well, I bought my PS3 yesterday. I absolutely love it!!! It is a lot bigger than I was expecting. The graphics and gameplay for Resistance and Oblivion are awesome. Oblivion had the most in-depth character creation that I have ever seen! Motorstorm is probably the coolest and hardest racing game that I have ever played.

I am happy I made the decision to stick with Playstation. I am not going to get into the 360 vs Ps3 wars, but I just absolutely love the PS3. After playing the games, I can definitely see where this system has an awesome future.

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PS3 - total cost for the shabang: $600

You get:

- Built in Wireless connectivity

- Blue-ray player

- An actual "NextGen" system

- Free online gaming

- Sleek design

- HDMI output (for full uncompressed HD)

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Xbox360 system cost: $400

You get:

- No built in wireless connectivity... meaning you have to dish out $99 for a game adapter to connect w/ your wireless router

- No NextGen optical drive... the xbox360 comes with a standard DVD player. You can add a HD-DVD player for an additional cost of $199 (Note that: Blu-Ray is currently leading the way in the next generation of media! - so your HD-DVD investment will go to waste if HD-DVD tanks....)

- You have to pay to play online - $50 annually

TOTAL Cost: ~$748

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Keep in mind that, the PS3 comes with everything in a nice sleek design. Where as with the Xbox360, you have to add separate external devices which can make a mess in your home entertainment system!!!

Also, remember that, the PS3 is the ACTUAL nextgen machine here and NOT the Xbox360. The reason I'm saying this is because, the technology you find in the PS3 (Cell processor, Blue-Ray) is the technology you'll find in the feature but PS3 has brought it to you in the present!

Ok... true.. w/ the Xbox360, you'll get the most titles and thats because the Xbox360 has been out for over a year and few months compared to the PS3.

In conclusion... the PS3 gives you the best return on investment compared to the Xbox360... game titles for the PS3 will come trickling down in the summer and fall 2007 - no doubt!

Check these videos out for re: the PS3 online features:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM7IxKMhgl8

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubAsU__V5dc

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRfPmYB28ec

Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7iDy4RlUo

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here is a list of expected releases for some of the exclusive PS3 titles (God of War 3, MGS, Killzone, warhawk, etc...):

http://www.ps3land.com/article-419.php

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Well, I bought my PS3 yesterday. I absolutely love it!!! It is a lot bigger than I was expecting. The graphics and gameplay for Resistance and Oblivion are awesome. Oblivion had the most in-depth character creation that I have ever seen! Motorstorm is probably the coolest and hardest racing game that I have ever played.

Give me a holler if you're up for any MotorStorm. Haven't had much of any time to play lately but that'll change as of Friday :silly:

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(Note that: Blu-Ray is currently leading the way in the next generation of media! - so your HD-DVD investment will go to waste if HD-DVD tanks....)

Everything else aside, unless companies stop the push for adult videos to never be released on BluRay, HDDVD will be the winner. Porn is the biggest industry in the world. Whichever format the porn industry decides to use, everything else will follow, and right now that's pointing to HDDVD. Sony is pushing hard-core for movies to get out on BluRay NOW, so that by the time the porn industry gets behind HDDVD it will be too late, but I'm not sure even that will help. It's going to be Betamax vs. VHS again, and the winner will be decided for the same reason.

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Everything else aside, unless companies stop the push for adult videos to never be released on BluRay, HDDVD will be the winner. Porn is the biggest industry in the world. Whichever format the porn industry decides to use, everything else will follow, and right now that's pointing to HDDVD. Sony is pushing hard-core for movies to get out on BluRay NOW, so that by the time the porn industry gets behind HDDVD it will be too late, but I'm not sure even that will help. It's going to be Betamax vs. VHS again, and the winner will be decided for the same reason.

I disagree. It will be like DVD+R and DVD-R. Combo players are already out. You never saw a vcr that played both Beta and VHS.

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Everything else aside, unless companies stop the push for adult videos to never be released on BluRay, HDDVD will be the winner. Porn is the biggest industry in the world. Whichever format the porn industry decides to use, everything else will follow, and right now that's pointing to HDDVD. Sony is pushing hard-core for movies to get out on BluRay NOW, so that by the time the porn industry gets behind HDDVD it will be too late, but I'm not sure even that will help. It's going to be Betamax vs. VHS again, and the winner will be decided for the same reason.

i don't know if the porn industry will benefit from high definition video.... i mean, who wants to see the cellulites on a model's butt/thighs? not to mention other 'details' that you'd normally not want to see... :silly:

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I disagree. It will be like DVD+R and DVD-R. Combo players are already out. You never saw a vcr that played both Beta and VHS.

This is exactly what will likely happen, I can't see either one being phased out completely and really don't think that one will be the preferred choice for movies.

Even if HDDVD definitively wins out, Blu-Ray will probably live on as the preferred medium for disc backup because of its higher capacity.

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This is exactly what will likely happen, I can't see either one being phased out completely and really don't think that one will be the preferred choice for movies.

Are there any HDDVD/BluRay combo players on the market now/going to be in the near future? If so, that could change things significantly.

Even if HDDVD definitively wins out, Blu-Ray will probably live on as the preferred medium for disc backup because of its higher capacity.

I would agree with this, because for years and years after VHS had won in the household market, companies who needed video storage used Beta tapes instead of VHS. It'll certainly be interesting to see how things work out.

My dad was at the huge broadcasters convention in Vegas recently and he said a huge topic of contention was where the porn industry was going to go with the next step. All the big players were trying to take the porn execs out to expensive dinners and private meetings to sway them to their side of the competition. The current idea is that because HDDVD is cheaper, easier to manufacture, and more durable, that's the way Playboy and other bigshots are going to go. But who really knows?

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Are there any HDDVD/BluRay combo players on the market now/going to be in the near future? If so, that could change things significantly.

THere is one I believe, LG.

But I was talking to someone today and they said that all the players that are being released in the fall will play both formats.

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Everything else aside, unless companies stop the push for adult videos to never be released on BluRay, HDDVD will be the winner. Porn is the biggest industry in the world. Whichever format the porn industry decides to use, everything else will follow, and right now that's pointing to HDDVD. Sony is pushing hard-core for movies to get out on BluRay NOW, so that by the time the porn industry gets behind HDDVD it will be too late, but I'm not sure even that will help. It's going to be Betamax vs. VHS again, and the winner will be decided for the same reason.

Sony initially said that they didn't want Blu Ray porn but they have now backed off of that. Also, porn was a deciding factor in the VHS/Betamax war because then that was the only way you could enjoy such entertainment in the privacy of your own home. Now, with the prevalence of the internet, this is not such a big deal.

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Thats the advantage to both formats still being disc media. It doesn't take much to make them both run on the same device.

Yeah, do you know how that works? The pits on both discs are cut completely differently so how would one machine read both? Could it just "tell"? One would think you'd get garbled data where the pit sizes overlapped. Maybe I'm just not giving technology enough credit.

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Yeah, do you know how that works? The pits on both discs are cut completely differently so how would one machine read both? Could it just "tell"? One would think you'd get garbled data where the pit sizes overlapped. Maybe I'm just not giving technology enough credit.

it uses different lasers to read the different formats.

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Yeah, do you know how that works? The pits on both discs are cut completely differently so how would one machine read both? Could it just "tell"? One would think you'd get garbled data where the pit sizes overlapped. Maybe I'm just not giving technology enough credit.

If you can get the device to recognize and utilize the correct laser wavelengths for both devices, there should be no problem.

Edit: Man, I'm slow on everything today. Open a window to reply, get distracted, reply, found out someone beat me to it.

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it uses different lasers to read the different formats.

That can't be right, because they both use the same type of laser to read the pits. But each has different sized pits, and a different depth of coating on it. So if the laser uses the feedback from how far it travels, you'd think it would get confused when lengths from the two different formats overlap. I wonder if there's some way to tell right off the bat what kind of disc it is and then only use that information the rest of the time it's in there.

Man...technology these days...soon we'll be living on the moon and have flying cars.

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That can't be right, because they both use the same type of laser to read the pits. But each has different sized pits, and a different depth of coating on it. So if the laser uses the feedback from how far it travels, you'd think it would get confused when lengths from the two different formats overlap. I wonder if there's some way to tell right off the bat what kind of disc it is and then only use that information the rest of the time it's in there.

Same "type" of laser? What exactly do you mean?

It makes sense to me that it would work after the disc has been identified. How it is identified I can't say for sure, although there is a reason that your computer right now can detect the difference between a CD, DVD, CD-R, CD-RW, etc. discs as well as the manufacturer-dubbed capacity and read/write speeds.

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Same "type" of laser? What exactly do you mean?

It makes sense to me that it would work after the disc has been identified. How it is identified I can't say for sure, although there is a reason that your computer right now can detect the difference between a CD, DVD, CD-R, CD-RW, etc. discs as well as the manufacturer-dubbed capacity and read/write speeds.

I believe the biggest difference in these new tehnology comared to older ones, is it uses a blue laser, which can read smaller. f you really wanna see something look up HVDs

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I believe the biggest difference in these new tehnology comared to older ones, is it uses a blue laser, which can read smaller. f you really wanna see something look up HVDs

... I know that :doh:

You catch what I was saying about wavelengths? Yeah, thats basically referring to what you just said.

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You 360 guys with your add ons are funny as hell. When you add all the add ons it comes out to being about the same price as the PS3.

the bug is it will be outdated this year, meaning SLOW :)

hd dvd or blue ray players are 3 years away from primetime, what you are getting now are first generation and those always have issues

as far as the battle, in the long run hd dvd will win out on name recognition alone, right now you have all the people that love the newest gadgets buying them when you have the other consumers that wait to buy, they will go with the hd dvd because it will sound like their hd dvd tv :)

myself i am waiting for the dual player :), but then again if you don't have 1080p tv's (which are also first generation) then you don't need one

honestly there is not much difference between 1080i or 1080p to the naked eye

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That can't be right, because they both use the same type of laser to read the pits. But each has different sized pits, and a different depth of coating on it. So if the laser uses the feedback from how far it travels, you'd think it would get confused when lengths from the two different formats overlap. I wonder if there's some way to tell right off the bat what kind of disc it is and then only use that information the rest of the time it's in there.

Man...technology these days...soon we'll be living on the moon and have flying cars.

They both use the same kind of laser but have different optical arrays that focus the light and read the info.

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the bug is it will be outdated this year, meaning SLOW :)

hd dvd or blue ray players are 3 years away from primetime, what you are getting now are first generation and those always have issues

as far as the battle, in the long run hd dvd will win out on name recognition alone, right now you have all the people that love the newest gadgets buying them when you have the other consumers that wait to buy, they will go with the hd dvd because it will sound like their hd dvd tv :)

myself i am waiting for the dual player :), but then again if you don't have 1080p tv's (which are also first generation) then you don't need one

honestly there is not much difference between 1080i or 1080p to the naked eye

At this point HD DVD won't win. Blu Ray has such a commanding lead when it comes to players sold, movie studio support, and disks sold that it cannot possibly lose. There have been numerous reports that major retailers such as Best Buy are about to start pulling HD DVDs from thier shelves and banking on Blu Ray. Right now, there are only two possibilities, either Blu Ray wins and HD DVD is wiped out or they both exist side by side as dual players besome the norm. HD DVD has no chance of outright victory any more.

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