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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Merged x115 Adventures Of The Fashion Police Weekly aka THE Uniform Thread

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What modern unis do you guys like that don't look totally goofy is what I want to know?

I like our unis. I like tradition. I think it's weird that people go "Oh, well, we've been losing forever in these uniforms, time for a change", like it's been the unis that are problem, or that they represent losing somehow.

Most fan renders of "modern" unis I see look down right hideous. I like that we're one of the teams in the NFL that doesn't change a whole lot about their uniform.

I'd also like to know how many of you would snatch a crayon out of your child's hand when they use a yellow crayon to color something like a treasure chest full of coins that are supposed to be gold.

I absolutely hate the modern uniform designs. Seattle, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Denver, etc...are all terrible, horrible, fugly uniforms. The previous Buffalo Bills uniforms were absolutely horrible too. There is a reason the Bills switched back to a more classic look, and I think pretty much everyone agrees it's for the better.

I've said it here multiple times, but I think the cleaner, and less gimmicky, the better. As much as I loath the Giants, they did their uniforms right. The Raiders also have an awesome uniform. The dark burgundy jersey I've posted a few times of Sonny is what I like. An updated version of that would be what I'd do if I owned the team. I'd also use the colors from the 70th, as that is the best representation of Burgundy and Gold I've seen.

I also don't get why people here think the team looks like "clowns" in the current gold pants. That look is far superior to the white pants. Also, if I had to choose between the "gold" of a team like the Rams, vs. the "gold" used the the Redskins, I'd go with the Redskins. The haters call it clown gold, or French's Mustard, but I'd take it any day over the Rams brownish/tan "gold".

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I absolutely hate the modern uniform designs. Seattle, Baltimore, Jacksonville, Denver, etc...are all terrible, horrible, fugly uniforms. The previous Buffalo Bills uniforms were absolutely horrible too. There is a reason the Bills switched back to a more classic look, and I think pretty much everyone agrees it's for the better.

I've said it here multiple times, but I think the cleaner, and less gimmicky, the better. As much as I loath the Giants, they did their uniforms right. The Raiders also have an awesome uniform. The dark burgundy jersey I've posted a few times of Sonny is what I like. An updated version of that would be what I'd do if I owned the team. I'd also use the colors from the 70th, as that is the best representation of Burgundy and Gold I've seen.

I also don't get why people here think the team looks like "clowns" in the current gold pants. That look is far superior to the white pants. Also, if I had to choose between the "gold" of a team like the Rams, vs. the "gold" used the the Redskins, I'd go with the Redskins. The haters call it clown gold, or French's Mustard, but I'd take it any day over the Rams brownish/tan "gold".

I agree with everything you said here, DH. Updating my previous post with your comments, I'd say we update our burgundy and gold to darker colors, similar to the 70th uniforms:

* Home Uniform - Burgundy jersey with gold pants and our "standard" logo helmet

*Away Uniform - White jersey with burgundy pants and our "standard" logo helmet

I think this type of "modernization" to the uniforms would look great. It would keep our style traditional but the color scheme would be slighly updated - both a nod to the past and really great combination for the present and future. No more white pants!

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Nike did a skins black uniform with the spear helmet.. Skins didn't go with it this year.

So you're saying we may go with it in future years?

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I agree with everything you said here, DH. Updating my previous post with your comments, I'd say we update our burgundy and gold to darker colors, similar to the 70th uniforms:

* Home Uniform - Burgundy jersey with gold pants and our "standard" logo helmet

*Away Uniform - White jersey with burgundy pants and our "standard" logo helmet

I think this type of "modernization" to the uniforms would look great. It would keep our style traditional but the color scheme would be slighly updated - both a nod to the past and really great combination for the present and future. No more white pants!

How come nobody complains about white not being one of our colors when it comes to the jersey? I guess that should be ok because that is what they always did back in the day. White is everybody's color and I just want us to have a great looking, modernized uniform which imo doesn't include gold pants.

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So you're saying we may go with it in future years?

This sounds a little too much like FSU, which, while a blatant ripoff of the Redskins, is more commonly linked with that look. I am open to a black jersey if done right and doesn't look like we went Oregon Ducks on it.

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I dont see anything wrong with a black alternate even if it isn't one of our official colors. There are examples of black alternates that look good and then those that don't. The Chicago Bulls black alternates look great imo as do the Pro Combats VT wore a couple years ago against Boise State. The Eagles black alternates I don't like because they are just solid black and poorly designed. Black and Burgundy is a nice color combo so throw in some gold in there and I think Nike could do something good with it.

I also think that pic of Zorn is one of the least confused he ever looked while with us...lol

Edited by Momma There Goes That Man

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I also think that pic of Zorn is one of the least confused he ever looked while with us...lol

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Sorry, I can't help myself posting Zorn pics.

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re: Black Jerseys...I'm just not a fan, unless the team already dons Black (Panthers, Jaguars, Raiders, Saints, Ravens, Steelers). I have no interest in ever seeing the Redskins wear black jerseys or pants. I really hope the powers that be do not let this happen.

Having said that, I'd love to see a "gold" jersey. I think that would look great with the burgundy pants.

The only mock up I've seen though I'm not crazy about. Here it is so y'all get the gist, but this isn't exactly what I'd do:

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Nike did a skins black uniform with the spear helmet.. Skins didn't go with it this year.

If that ever happens, we will be living in dark times, dark times indeed. Depression, confusion, we would all be living a sad, miserable existence.

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I'd be cool with the "gold" (read: canary yellow) pants being a permanent feature of the uniforms if they got rid of those terrible red-white-red pinstripes down the sides in favor of two large stripes, one "burgundy" (read: cardinal/cranberry) and one white, which would match the stripes on the current jersey sleeves.

I also generally agree with Rodriggo: our current unis are bad@ss. I'm not a Washingtonian, nor do I hail from the "DMV." I was born and raised in Sin City. But when I saw the Redskins vs. the Broncos in Super Bowl XXII, with Washington sporting those cool Gibbs Era unis and whooping John Elway's derriere, I fell in love with the 'Skins. Maybe it's a generational thing, but I don't want the team to permanently go away from those unis. Ever.

Yes, I agree on both counts. The gold pants are fine, but the red-white-red pinstripes are hideous. I'd much prefer the two broader stripes like our burgundy and our white pants have over three skinny stripes. It looks solid.

And yeah, I think the current unis are the best the Redskins have ever had. Way better than the 70th "throwbacks" or worst of all the Lombardi yellow helmet look.

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Nike did a skins black uniform with the spear helmet.. Skins didn't go with it this year.

Blehhhh!!!!

So you're saying we may go with it in future years?

Hope they keep it in the closet forever.

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Yes, I agree on both counts. The gold pants are fine, but the red-white-red pinstripes are hideous. I'd much prefer the two broader stripes like our burgundy and our white pants have over three skinny stripes. It looks solid.

And yeah, I think the current unis are the best the Redskins have ever had. Way better than the 70th "throwbacks" or worst of all the Lombardi yellow helmet look.

What about a single burgundy stripe down the side? I think that is what would look best...something like:

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This is what I would like to see: Home uni is burgundy with gold stripe around the sleeve jersey and gold pants with a single burgundy stripe up the leg. Away Uni is gold with burgundy stripe around the sleeve jersey and burgundy pants with a single gold stripe up the leg. I like the color burgundy of the 80th anniversary jersey and that could also be our home uni jersey. The gold should be the gold of numbers on the 80th anniversary jersey.

Edited to add: Yes to the above picture, colors and stripes. Reverse for away uni.

Edited by LadySkinsFan

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You have no soul...

Oh but I do... I have been a fan longer than many have been alive. Retros are great and stuff. I remember when those two striped 80's uniforms that everyone considers "traditional" were just "wild" and ultra modern. Time to change the culture again.

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Nike did a skins black uniform with the spear helmet.. Skins didn't go with it this year.

I'd like to see the design - Black traditional or black "Oregon style"? I was hoping for it but glad to see that it was at least proposed. The new alt 80th anniversary uni's are sweet. At the end of the day, if it's the Redskins, any uniform is good for me... Umm, not the Steelers bumblebee look though.

HTTR

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Yea, +1 on the Steelers uni's being the ugliest I've seen in a while.

Well, right next to the Eagles' yellow/blue jerseys we got to see a couple years ago.

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Nike did a skins black uniform with the spear helmet.. Skins didn't go with it this year.

any chance we could get a peek at it?

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What modern unis do you guys like that don't look totally goofy is what I want to know?
What modern unis do you guys like that don't look totally goofy is what I want to know?

A list of unis/identities.

<<<LEAVE AS IS>>>

"Untouchable" (Not really, but you want to keep the classic jersey as the primary "look." These teams have either been so successful or traditional that an overhaul just isn't worth it.

Bears

Packers

49ers - So glad they dropped the black and went back to the 80s.

Jets - Why would you want to drop the SB III Namath look ever?

Raiders

Cowboys

Browns

Chiefs

"Traditional but not as iconic" (These team might be as successful or more so but they have tinkered with their iconic looks.)

Giants - They went to the 50's throwbacks even though they won 2 SBs with the LT look, which will always be the true Giants look to me. The grey pants just look wrong to me, always have, looks to "soft" if you will. Wouldn't say it's goofy but the overall look just isn't as menacing as the 80's / 90's with those dark, dark blue helmets, which was a great look.

Steelers - They changed their numbers to that sans serif slant, same as it was on their helmets at some point in the 90's which maybe nobody cares about but changes the whole vibe for me. It sounds funny, but even that slight a change is just too fancy for the Steel Curtain. Go back to block numbers already.

Redskins - I've made my feelings known already on this, perfect the championship classic.

Eagles - The 80's silver and green was one of the coolest looks around and they scrapped it for the drab ugly, green, white, black they have now with those ridiculous numbers....**** the Eagles anyway.

Vikings - The Favre era jersey is atrocious. Their helmet is great, their colors are iconic, just go simple and go back to playing outdoors.

Dolphins - They're still dealing with the "add black to the jersey-itis." Go back to simple and clean. It's ok to wear pastels, you're Miami.

Chargers - They moved in the right direction a couple of years back going back to the 60's but they need to drop the dark blue completely and just go all white road and powder blue home.

Broncos - Wear orange at home. Wear orange at home. Wear orange at home. Drop the nike swoosh also. One of the few alternate numbers I can live with.

"Traditional Not Iconic"

Saints - Too many lines around the logo which should NOT have been made smaller a couple of years back.

Seahawks - I like their openness to experiment with their look but the hi-vi green just screams WFL.

Bengals - IMHO it's the best helmet ever designed. What they did to the uniform recently is a disaster. Again, stop with the goofy fonts already. THAT helmet, with a simple black jersey, block letters and some tasteful trim would kick so much ******* *** it's unbelievable.

Lions - Dallas has blue and silver pretty much cornered and the Lions have sucked *** for about 300 years but it's a look that fits. What I don't like is the addition of black into the uniform and the goofy numbers.

Bills - I just don't get the white helmets. At least they got rid of those unis that had like 40 colors on them.

"Modern Classic"

Buccaneers[/i] - Good rebrand, jersey have always seemed a little too elaborate to me especially the numbers but at least they're block.

<<<MALEABLE>>>

"Devalued Classic Icons" (Could change, could not, no big deal either way.)

Colts - Every time I see the Colts I think about how they left Baltimore and how cool it would be if they were still there...every time. If the Colts rebranded it would not be a negative in any way. When Irsay says "the horseshoe" I cringe.

Rams - The L.A. Rams gold and blue was a great uniform, never identified it with St. Louis, the gold version is now extra crispy stale, this team should have just rebranded completely. Sad to see THE original helmet design ****ized with a carpetbagger franchise.

Cardinals - I did a whole design project on redesigning this franchise. Suffice to say what they ended up doing in updating their look a couple years back wasn't enough.

"Modern Classic Looks Without Importance"

Ravens - If the Ravens changed their logo would anyone give a ****? It's a dark purple bird on a black helmet, you can't even see it. Black and purple for whatever reason has just never interested me, I suspect it's those goofy numbers, if they went block letters or with a non-ridiculous font it would help stabilize their look. They're a good team, a good franchise but their uniform is too goofy to stick.

Patriots - Any one old enough to remember the late 80's realizes they HAD to rebrand that team. It wasn't a bad job at all but their new look is still not as cool as their old one, it just isn't. Pat the Patriot was just so weird it was endearing, it was actually based on a cartoon created for a Boston paper the day the team was announced. The owner saw it and used it. New England should have white helmets and red jerseys, they could even figure out a way to keep the new logo to not go completely retro. They've won a ton but it's just not a look that means anything....silver and a drab dark blue, who cares?

<<<WORTHLESS>>>

"Class of 95'"

Panthers & Jaguars - Two cool names but neither identity lives up to it. Football icons should illicit an instant visceral reaction and neither does for different reasons. The Panther's pose is a strange 3/4 shot where everything gets flattened and you lose the intended fierceness of the cat's fangs/roar. The Jaguar is too intricate. Plus they both rely on a neutral like black as a primary color which just makes them bland.

"Meh."

Titans - The fact they stole the Oilers from everybody is too painful to ignore. I've never really identified with a flaming shield with a "T" on it.

"Needs to be overhauled"

Texans - Worst logo ever created in the history of eyeballs. Colors are workable but identity is not.

Falcons - I absolutely hate these amorphous shaped icons. The falcon, like the Cardinals head and the Texans skull is so ******* weak to me as an icon. Colorwise they overuse black, their best look was late 80's when they drafted Deion. Go back to a red helmet.

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