Spaceman Spiff Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 i dunno who is up watching espn now, but on that dumb show with bob ley, outside the lines, they're gonna talk about how the media disses dallas when it comes to HOF voting and such. What the **** is it gonna take, honestly? Can't espn just own up and be like "The media has a perpetual stiffy for the cowboys, the redskins are really the team thats getting the shaft, especially art monk." Another reason to hate the worldwide leader, what a bunch of hacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playoffsplz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 how many HOF's do we have and how many do the Cowboys have? serious question...i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philal0102 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 thats such bs dude. if anyone gets dissed i think its us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Peter King did an interview with Dan Patrick last week, Patrick SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM if he was going to vote for Monk. PK said no and mumbled though some long winded explanation that made zero sense. I dunno, but if you repeatedly get asked about ONE GUY, people are dropping you are pretty big ****ing hint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskn4eva Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Peter King did an interview with Dan Patrick last week, Patrick SPECIFICALLY ASKED HIM if he was going to vote for Monk. PK said no and mumbled though some long winded explanation that made zero sense. I dunno, but if you repeatedly get asked about ONE GUY, people are dropping you are pretty big ****ing hint. No :pooh: !!! Get with the progran Queeny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 how many HOF's do we have and how many do the Cowboys have?serious question...i dont know Redskins HOF players: GEORGE ALLEN (2002) - 1971-1977 CLIFF BATTLES (1968) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937 SAMMY BAUGH (1963) - 1937-1952 BILL DUDLEY (1966) - 1950-1951, 1953 ALBERT GLEN (TURK) EDWARDS (1969) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1940 RAY FLAHERTY (1976) - 1936-1942 JOE GIBBS (1996) - 1981-1992 KEN HOUSTON (1986) - 1973-1980 SAM HUFF (1982) - 1964-1967, 1969 David (Deacon) Jones (1980) - 1974 Stan Jones (1991) - 1966 SONNY JURGENSEN (1983) - 1964-1974 Paul Krause (1998) - 1964-1967 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (1963) - 1952-1953 Vince Lombardi (1971) - 1969 GEORGE PRESTON MARSHALL (1963) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1969 WAYNE MILLNER (1968) - 1936-1941, 1945 BOBBY MITCHELL (1983) - 1962-1968 JOHN RIGGINS (1992) - 1976-1979, 1981-1985 CHARLEY TAYLOR (1984) - 1964-1975, 1977 Cowboys HOF Players : Herb Adderley (1980) - 1970-1972 Lance Alworth (1978) - 1971-1972 Mike Ditka (1988) - 1969-1972 TONY DORSETT (1994) - 1977-1987 Forrest Gregg (1977) - 1971 TOM LANDRY (1990) - 1960-1988 BOB LILLY (1980) - 1961-1974 Tommy McDonald (1998) - 1964 MEL RENFRO (1996) - 1964-1977 TEX SCHRAMM (1991) - 1960-1989 Jackie Smith (1994) - 1978 ROGER STAUBACH (1985) - 1969-1979 RANDY WHITE (1994) - 1975-1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Skins go back to 1932, Dallas 1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GibbSkins11 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 i dunno who is up watching espn now, but on that dumb show with bob ley, outside the lines, they're gonna talk about how the media disses dallas when it comes to HOF voting and such.What the **** is it gonna take, honestly? Can't espn just own up and be like "The media has a perpetual stiffy for the cowboys, the redskins are really the team thats getting the shaft, especially art monk." Another reason to hate the worldwide leader, what a bunch of hacks. fans dont like the redskins for many reasons like....... - we spend on our team aka snyder - are hof coach came back aka gibbs - we have the best colors in the nfl - people dont like the redskins b/c they dont like indians aka disrespect - we have 3 sb titles and 2 nfl championships - we have lots of players that were great - we are located in washington dc aka fans are jealous peter king wants to be a **** b/c he dont like the redskins, people love the cowboys, the only reason people think they dont is b/c of their track record of arrests,but most of america are bandwagon luvers and the cowboys are called americas team so people like them just so they dont get joked, but breaking news**** when we win sb41 they will hate us even more:laugh: :helmet: :dallasuck :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Redskins HOF players:GEORGE ALLEN (2002) - 1971-1977 CLIFF BATTLES (1968) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937 SAMMY BAUGH (1963) - 1937-1952 BILL DUDLEY (1966) - 1950-1951, 1953 ALBERT GLEN (TURK) EDWARDS (1969) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1940 RAY FLAHERTY (1976) - 1936-1942 JOE GIBBS (1996) - 1981-1992 KEN HOUSTON (1986) - 1973-1980 SAM HUFF (1982) - 1964-1967, 1969 David (Deacon) Jones (1980) - 1974 Stan Jones (1991) - 1966 SONNY JURGENSEN (1983) - 1964-1974 Paul Krause (1998) - 1964-1967 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (1963) - 1952-1953 Vince Lombardi (1971) - 1969 GEORGE PRESTON MARSHALL (1963) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1969 WAYNE MILLNER (1968) - 1936-1941, 1945 BOBBY MITCHELL (1983) - 1962-1968 JOHN RIGGINS (1992) - 1976-1979, 1981-1985 CHARLEY TAYLOR (1984) - 1964-1975, 1977 Cowboys HOF Players : Herb Adderley (1980) - 1970-1972 Lance Alworth (1978) - 1971-1972 Mike Ditka (1988) - 1969-1972 TONY DORSETT (1994) - 1977-1987 Forrest Gregg (1977) - 1971 TOM LANDRY (1990) - 1960-1988 BOB LILLY (1980) - 1961-1974 Tommy McDonald (1998) - 1964 MEL RENFRO (1996) - 1964-1977 TEX SCHRAMM (1991) - 1960-1989 Jackie Smith (1994) - 1978 ROGER STAUBACH (1985) - 1969-1979 RANDY WHITE (1994) - 1975-1988 Aight, I'm not saying the cowboys are getting dissed in anyway shape or form, but you have to admit our list is a little bit bigger then theirs. Knowing we have three superbowl trophies and they have five, that list is surprising to say the least, if if the dallas franchise is a little bit younger then ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckerwood Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 well, the cowboy teams that won the last three championships are just now starting to become elligible, ie. irvin, aikman, smith, etc. also, like it was pointed out, the skins have almost thirty years on the girls, so i guess it makes sense.... btw, there's no ****ing media bias against the redskins.. except maybe from pasquarelli. every team's message board has threads about this crap with respect to their own franchise, and it's just silly. but i digress, there's already a thread about that somewhere around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Aight, I'm not saying the cowboys are getting dissed in anyway shape or form, but you have to admit our list is a little bit bigger then theirs. Knowing we have three superbowl trophies and they have five, that list is surprising to say the least, if if the dallas franchise is a little bit younger then ours. see bubbas post above. there are 6 'skins from before the cowboys even existed. the numbers are pretty even if you discount those guys, w/ the 'skins with 14 inductees and the cowboys with 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 also, like it was pointed out, the skins have almost thirty years on the girls, so i guess it makes sense.... so you agree that dallas goesn't get the shaft when it comes to the hof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I was watching Roger Stabach complain like hell the other day saying that his great teams of the 70s are getting the shaft. He said that everyone hates them cause they were called America's team. If you look at how long the Redskins org has been around compared to Dallas, we are the team that got the shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Aight, I'm not saying the cowboys are getting dissed in anyway shape or form, but you have to admit our list is a little bit bigger then theirs. Knowing we have three superbowl trophies and they have five, that list is surprising to say the least, if if the dallas franchise is a little bit younger then ours. A bunch of those guys on our list didn't get into the HOF because they were Redskins either. Lombardi, Deacon Jones, Stan Jones were Redskins for 1 entire year, and that was their last year. They did less than Bruce Smith did when he makes the HOF and gets added to the list. Deion will be on the list as well. Earl (Curly) Lambeau was a great coach but his 2 years as our coach were pathetic. Sam Huff played most of his great years with the Giants, Paul Krause played 3 years for the Redskins and like 12 or 13 for the Vikings during their SB years. All those guys are like 1/2 the list and they didn't make the HOF as Redskins. Of course Dallas has a few of those type players as well but a few of them were on the SB winning teams of the 70s and their 90s players will get their shot soon. Noboby except Gibbs and Riggins are in from our 4SB teams of Gibbs and they are all eligible now except for Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think compared to the Steelers 70's team every other team has been screwed. If we were them we'd have Monk, Clark, Grimm, Jacoby, Mann, Manley, Green, Mosley, and Butz in the hof instead of just Riggins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyburd Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I think compared to the Steelers 70's team every other team has been screwed.If we were them we'd have Monk, Clark, Grimm, Jacoby, Mann, Manley, Green, Mosley, and Butz in the hof instead of just Riggins. Agree, except Mann. Manley made Mann so good for those three to four years. Look at Mann's stats after Dexter left, not near as good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frommd Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I'm hopeful Monk gets in this year, but has anyone mentioned Jack Kent Cooke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyf316 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Aight, I'm not saying the cowboys are getting dissed in anyway shape or form, but you have to admit our list is a little bit bigger then theirs. Knowing we have three superbowl trophies and they have five, that list is surprising to say the least, if if the dallas franchise is a little bit younger then ours. In all fairness, though, we've had 30 more years of players to get into the HoF. We should expect to have more people in the Hall. On that note, I wouldn't even count Lombardi as ours, despite the fact his last year was as a Redskin. He was voted in for his time as a Packer, not a Redskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Redskins HOF players:GEORGE ALLEN (2002) - 1971-1977 CLIFF BATTLES (1968) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937 SAMMY BAUGH (1963) - 1937-1952 BILL DUDLEY (1966) - 1950-1951, 1953 ALBERT GLEN (TURK) EDWARDS (1969) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1940 RAY FLAHERTY (1976) - 1936-1942 JOE GIBBS (1996) - 1981-1992 KEN HOUSTON (1986) - 1973-1980 SAM HUFF (1982) - 1964-1967, 1969 David (Deacon) Jones (1980) - 1974 Stan Jones (1991) - 1966 SONNY JURGENSEN (1983) - 1964-1974 Paul Krause (1998) - 1964-1967 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (1963) - 1952-1953 Vince Lombardi (1971) - 1969 GEORGE PRESTON MARSHALL (1963) - 1932, 1933-1936, 1937-1969 WAYNE MILLNER (1968) - 1936-1941, 1945 BOBBY MITCHELL (1983) - 1962-1968 JOHN RIGGINS (1992) - 1976-1979, 1981-1985 CHARLEY TAYLOR (1984) - 1964-1975, 1977 Cowboys HOF Players : Herb Adderley (1980) - 1970-1972 Lance Alworth (1978) - 1971-1972 Mike Ditka (1988) - 1969-1972 TONY DORSETT (1994) - 1977-1987 Forrest Gregg (1977) - 1971 TOM LANDRY (1990) - 1960-1988 BOB LILLY (1980) - 1961-1974 Tommy McDonald (1998) - 1964 MEL RENFRO (1996) - 1964-1977 TEX SCHRAMM (1991) - 1960-1989 Jackie Smith (1994) - 1978 ROGER STAUBACH (1985) - 1969-1979 RANDY WHITE (1994) - 1975-1988 I know this all subjective - but how did Danny White get voted in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 excellent point SkinsFTW. Take out all the token players(1 year, career at other teams) then count how many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I agree with what's been said regarding the 70's Cowboys. I think they're right to think they're getting shafted. They (like the 80's Redskins) were the runner-up to "Team of the Decade" and yet they have very little recognition when it comes to the Hall of Fame. I'm not sure how many 80's Cowboys belong in the HOF. Maybe Everson Walls? But the 70's Cowboys are being shortchanged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I know this all subjective - but how did Danny White get voted in? It's Randy not Danny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 When you clean out pre-1960 Redskins and players who earned their HOF with other teams you end up with this list: Redskins: 8 G.P. Marshall G. Allen J. Gibbs K. Houston Jurgy Mitchell Riggo Taylor boys: 8 Ditka Dorsett Landry Lilly Renfro Schramm Staubach Randy White Pretty even. e. smith and D. Green are no brainers, keeping it even. Monk and Irvin both have detractors. Russ Grimm should get in but who knows. I don't know why Jacoby doesn't get more consideration. Allen of the boys should get serious consideration. Overall it's pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y100Rocks Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 I thought everyone already boycotted the hall of fame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon_mikal Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Both franchises have been shafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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