Vladimir L Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 boring team to watch goes into a shell int he 2nd half poorly coached vanilla defense with leads our star te is a non factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Renegade7 said: If we get up on you, you're toast, that's what we're starting to look like. If we get up on you, we're gonna get super conservative on offense and let the defense close it out, hopefully. Kinda how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, Spaceman Spiff said: If we get up on you, we're gonna get super conservative on offense and let the defense close it out, hopefully. Kinda how I see it. Which for better or worse is working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Just now, Renegade7 said: Which for better or worse is working. It is, I just don't think it's a recipe for success. The defense is pretty good, but it's not the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: It is, I just don't think it's a recipe for success. The defense is pretty good, but it's not the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens. Think we need to really think about what success means then, at least in the context of this current roster. Super Bowl? I dont think so. Playoffs? At this rate, ya. When you arent a championship contender, winning games and something to build off of goin into the offseason is the next step down. Without knowing what Philly is really about yet this year, we might not see a contender the rest of the year. That's a lot of winnable football games. I get not judging team in a vacuum, but I'm noticing a lot of judging this team out of frustration not being a contender for nearly 30 years. It will be impossible to jus sit back and enjoy what this is when one insists to look at it that way. We beat Norv for first time inforever, Cam for first time ever. I'm in the acceptance stage of the season already, join me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I'm in the acceptance stage of the season already, join me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: It is, I just don't think it's a recipe for success. The defense is pretty good, but it's not the '85 Bears or the '00 Ravens. I get that. You probably desire filet or a good barbecue. The Redskins are serving up gruel. Now, gruel will fill you up and keep you going through the day, but it kind of looks and tastes nasty. The last time we had a steady diet of gruel was probably Marty Schottenheimer. This season, unlike Marty's we have some variety. You got gruel one week and then the next week... horse poop. I'm hopeful we see gruel against the Cowboys. Still, I wouldn't mind a crab cake every now and then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Burgold said: I get that. You probably desire filet or a good barbecue. The Redskins are serving up gruel. Now, gruel will fill you up and keep you going through the day, but it kind of looks and tastes nasty. The last time we had a steady diet of gruel was probably Marty Schottenheimer. This season, unlike Marty's we have some variety. You got gruel one week and then the next week... horse poop. I'm hopeful we see gruel against the Cowboys. Still, I wouldn't mind a crab cake every now and then though. Who doesn't desire filet or good bbq? I just don't think it's a recipe for success, just like come from behind wins aren't sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Its not as Jekyll & hide as people think. Its actually pretty simple and straightforward to figure out what this team is. The FACT is when this teams goes over 100 yards rushing we win. We are running football team that can play good defense when we control time of possession. I said in week 1 this is a Joe Gibbs throwback team. The New Orleans game was a atrocious game plan and we never made any real effort to establish run dominance. We came out passing and that failed miserably, why would any head coach want to get into a shootout vs Drew Brees with Alex Smith. This team will go as far as our O Line and AP will take us. Its all about field position and ball control with the 2018 Redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 15, 2018 Author Share Posted October 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Who doesn't desire filet or good bbq? I just don't think it's a recipe for success, just like come from behind wins aren't sustainable. The Marty style demands perfection. If the offense or defense makes a single mistake, the team loses. If they play a perfect game, they are in it at the end with a chance to win. I'm not really a fan of Martyball either. I don't really think we're seeing a true version of Martyball though... maybe this is its West Coast cousin. Where three yards and a pile of dust is traded in for a three yard pass and a pile of dust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Who doesn't desire filet or good bbq? I just don't think it's a recipe for success, just like come from behind wins aren't sustainable. Thats been the thing even prior to the 3-2 start, does the team have the makings of a team that can win at all? Not exactly can they win it all right now, but can you envision it going that direction in the next few years? What I see is a different looking version of what my expectations were. But expectations remain the same. If all things swing the right way, they could get into the playoffs. Definitely appears a middling team destined to stay middling at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 They rise and fall with this guy. Who would have thought? Will they break out of this? Will see. Dan SteinbergVerified account @dcsportsbog 30m30 minutes ago More 28-28-1 over their last 57. Dan SteinbergVerified account @dcsportsbog 46m46 minutes ago More The Redskins are 1-1 in their last 2 games, 2-2 in their last 4 and 3-3 in their last 6. They're 5-5 in their last 10, 6-6 in their last 12, 7-7 in their last 14. They're 10-10 in their last 20. They're 16-16-1 in their last 33. They're 18-18-1 in their last 37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 MEDIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Is that stat true?!? That cant be true...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 They are basically the same team they have been for the last three seasons, a .500ish team. For a few different reasons than in the past, but that is ultimately still what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Thinking Skins said: I kinda disagree. I think it's just growth from guys like Allen, Payne and Dunbar, maybe Nicholson. Adding players from external hasn't been as good. JHC did make one play today and i hope he continues to grow. It *is* growth for those guys. Plus (IMO) a piece on the edge and one at inside LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Monk4thaHALL said: MEDIUM Ughhh That gave me chills, and not the good kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 We're just an average as average gets football team. That's who we are. I would rather have a 3-13 or 2-14 year to have the opportunity to draft a Jared Goff or Mahomes type of QB, rather than doing this stuff we're doing. Even if we make the playoffs we're not going anywhere. This is not a SB type of team at all. It's peak is a one and done in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Alexa said: We're just an average as average gets football team. That's who we are. I would rather have a 3-13 or 2-14 year to have the opportunity to draft a Jared Goff or Mahomes type of QB, rather than doing this stuff we're doing. Even if we make the playoffs we're not going anywhere. This is not a SB type of team at all. It's peak is a one and done in the playoffs. I actually couldn't disagree more. The Rams before last year were bottom dwellers for years and hadn't even made the playoffs since 2003. Their team had top 5 pick after top 5 pick, so just cause they finally got it right doesn't mean it's some great strategy to go 2-14. And the Chiefs made the playoffs the year they traded up to get Mahomes, I believe at 13. That's certainly an option for us with Smith. I would much rather field competitive teams year after year and continue to build rather than blow it all up for top 5 picks. If we have another draft similar to our last 2 with our 10+ picks, I would venture to guess 2019-2022 will be a nice little window for us. We obviously need to find that QBOTF though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, HardcoreZorn said: I actually couldn't disagree more. The Rams before last year were bottom dwellers for years and hadn't even made the playoffs since 2003. Their team had top 5 pick after top 5 pick, so just cause they finally got it right doesn't mean it's some great strategy to go 2-14. And the Chiefs made the playoffs the year they traded up to get Mahomes, I believe at 13. That's certainly an option for us with Smith. I would much rather field competitive teams year after year and continue to build rather than blow it all up for top 5 picks. If we have another draft similar to our last 2 with our 10+ picks, I would venture to guess 2019-2022 will be a nice little window for us. We obviously need to find that QBOTF though. Right but they have Goff and we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 The Browns are a better example... they've had numerous 1st rounders and couldn't win a game for 2 years and don't look much better this year either... Sure, they're competitive now and Mayfield was a good pick, however, that's what numerous top picks gets you and doesn't automatically equal winning on the field. A good FA strategy, decent drafting and quality coaching is what will win you games in the NFL. The Eagles went from the bottom to the top and won the Super Bowl in one season with good coaching and balanced units. They certainly didn't have numerous top picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alexa said: Right but they have Goff and we don't. The point was it took over a decade to find their Goff and they had top 5 picks consistently. So to "wish" we would go 2-14 just to find our guy seems like a poor strategy. But to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 And Goff wasn't that good without McVay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 This isn’t basketball. Tanking doesn’t work unless it’s for a specific, transcendent talent that you can plug in to a deep, well-rounded team. IOW, you tank when you have 15+ starters on IR and Peyton Manning is in the draft pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadium-Armory Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I went to the Rams / Bronco game yesterday. We don't have the level of talent that the rams have on offense. You can see it with your eyes. If anyone thinks this roster "is as talented", you are fooling your self. Yes, we have some good players. But we don't have the depth of speed and talent, top to bottom. Did anyone else watch the night game last night? Overflowing with talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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