ThatNFLChick Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Chip Kelly tried VERY hard to get Jayden Daniels to come to UCLA https://247sports.com/college/ucla/Article/ucla-football-qb-jayden-daniels-on-ucla-offer-meeting-chip-kelly-118782294/amp/ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Or the other two. Vick was mediocre under him for like 7 games then got hurt. Foles, it's true, had a stellar season under Kelly. But the next year he was lousy again and he dealt him away fro Bradford. I feel like the need to sugar coat any move the team makes has now got us just inventing some QB guru tag to slap onto Kelly, even if it means we're naming guys who got worse under him. Or didn't play for him at all. Not saying the guy is a guru but those guys are not top 15 quarterbacks in the league and he went 10-6 2 years in a row with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, OtisDriftwood25 said: Look it up. Week 16 vs us 2014 Mark Sánchez 37-50 374 yards, 2td 1int. We all know 2014 Mark Sánchez was not that guy and would not put up those numbers unless in a good offense. You’re using a game against us. He had 14 TDs on the year. 1/7 of them were against us. Oh, we were 4-12. Oh and we had the 29th D. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I suppose there's that aspect of Kelly not getting poached for a HC gig. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: Matt Patricia Thats right. Name a guy that Quinn has never worked with as a failure. Solid argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, KDawg said: You’re using a game against us. He had 14 TDs on the year. 1/7 of them were against us. Oh, we were 4-12. Oh and we had the 29th D. They were 10-6 2014 and Mark Sánchez finished the season. Let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, DiscoBob said: 1) It wouldn't mean never push pace, rather pick your places 2) You don't hire the guy unless you like his scheming.... you aren't hiring him because he pushes pace, so it shouldn't be an issue if we are bring him dor the right reasons That IS his scheme. He uses pace to create mismatches in personnel groupings and prevent subs and using motions to manipulate defensive matchups. Thats part of his scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: If I asked to be OC and he gave me the job, does that make it a smart hire? In case I haven't shown you enough of my brain power, the answer is definitively NO. He had already worked with him at that point???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: They were 10-6 2014 and Mark Sánchez finished the season. Let that sink in. Mark Sanchez led teams to the Conference Title game in each of his first two seasons, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, clskinsfan said: Thats right. Name a guy that Quinn has never worked with as a failure. Solid argument. I think you understand my point. 1 minute ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: They were 10-6 2014 and Mark Sánchez finished the season. Let that sink in. He went 4-4. Meanwhile, McCoy and Sproles combined for over 2000 all purpose yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, clskinsfan said: He had already worked with him at that point???? I'm struggling to see what point you think you're making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Mark Sanchez led teams to the Conference Title game in each of his first two seasons, btw. He has a 73 career passing rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, KDawg said: That IS his scheme. He uses pace to create mismatches in personnel groupings and prevent subs and using motions to manipulate defensive matchups. Thats part of his scheme. I understand that, but unless you believe he is capable of winning through traditional play design and play calling - we shouldn't hire him. I'm trusting that Peters / Quinn aren't gonna hire a guy who can only succeed if his team plays at a permanent break neck speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, Rufus T Firefly said: I'm struggling to see what point you think you're making. You called it out like it was a bad thing. Dude just got hired as head coach? I am struggling to see what point you think you are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, DiscoBob said: I understand that, but unless you believe he is capable of winning through traditional play design and play calling - we shouldn't hire him. I'm trusting that Peters / Quinn aren't gonna hire a guy who can only succeed if his team plays at a permanent break neck speed. Right - I’m with you. Which is why he shouldn’t be hired. Because that’s him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 15 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: ? that was his 2016 staff. You will not find a better one. Anywhere ever, Redskins’s 2013 staff? I’m not going to find the graphic but everybody knows who’s on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, OtisDriftwood25 said: He has a 73 career passing rating. That's nice. Irrelevant to what you posted and I responded to. You're the one who brought up Sanchez leading a team to the playoffs as proof of something. If you are now admitting that that was a dumb and pointless argument, then we are in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 1 minute ago, KDawg said: Right - I’m with you. Which is why he shouldn’t be hired. Because that’s him. That's the point at which we differ - which is fine. I'm open to the possibility that Kelly can be flexible with his offense (assuming he convinced Peters that he's right for the job). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: You called it out like it was a bad thing. Dude just got hired as head coach? I am struggling to see what point you think you are making. You are defending Morris being named an offensive coach because "he asked for it" And now you seem to be defending it because he got hired as a head coach after many years back coaching on his side of the ball. If you get near a point, let the rest of us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: He has a 73 career passing rating. Here’s his game against Seattle in 2014: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I would be incredibly disappointed with Chip Kelly as a coordinator. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, DiscoBob said: That's the point at which we differ - which is fine. I'm open to the possibility that Kelly can be flexible with his offense (assuming he convinced Peters that he's right for the job). Why? Where has he done that? Where has he demonstrated that he can do that? It’s a part of who and what he is. I’m not saying it CAN’T change. But it hasn’t . Through his career. It’s not worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalSkins Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 16 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Morris ASKED for an offensive coaching position to enhance his knowledge. Might be time for you to take a swig or 2. No chance you are winning an argument against a Quinn staff. This is inaccurate. Morris was demoted from assistant head coach defensive backs coach to WR and passing game coordinator for his buddy Kyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Just now, NickyJ said: I would be incredibly disappointed with Chip Kelly as a coordinator. The crap ppl are taking themselves into… because Adam Peters. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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