Riggo#44 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Hitman#21 said: It's done. Idk how many timesI can say this without saying it lol. Is this Andyman's new screen name?! You have direct knowledge of the negotiations then? And if you have direct knowledge, that means the League has direct knowledge of these secret negotiations. Negotiations that are in direct violation of league rules and would probably cost us several draft picks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Is this Andyman's new screen name?! You have direct knowledge of the negotiations then? And if you have direct knowledge, that means the League has direct knowledge of these secret negotiations. Negotiations that are in direct violation of league rules and would probably cost us several draft picks. This is why nobody wants to share info here. Replies like this... I'll be back with the official announcement be well. Have a good day! HTTR HTTC Edited January 24 by Hitman#21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Finlay has also said to "remember the name Joe Hortiz." I don't believe we even interviewed him. He also said similar things about Dan Quinn and Raheem Morris. I follow JP and will sometimes post some of his tweets out here BUT JP is not as trustworthy a source like Keim. Those in the know: Nicki J., Keim, Josina Anderson, Schefter and Ben Allbright. 1 minute ago, Hitman#21 said: This is why nobody wants to share info here. Replies like this... I'll be back with the official announcement be well. Ah, HM21 keep the info coming. This thread was dead. We need to keep it open and going! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, Hitman#21 said: This is why nobody wants to share info here. Replies like this... I'll be back with the official announcement be well. Look... I think a lot of us are pretty sure it's Johnson. I think most of us agree that there is probably a deal in place in principle. That's not the disconnect. The disconnect is using wording like, "it's done". For something to be done the deal needs to be signed and official with the League. It isn't. If it was, we'd be all sorts of ****ed. It is technical. But it is real. You're using "done" in a way that "done" doesn't actually mean. The process isn't finished because it's not official. And when things aren't official, things can change. I agree that once the Lions are out we will be likely announcing Johnson as the new HC. 4 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, KDawg said: Look... I think a lot of us are pretty sure it's Johnson. I think most of us agree that there is probably a deal in place in principle. That's not the disconnect. The disconnect is using wording like, "it's done". For something to be done the deal needs to be signed and official with the League. It isn't. If it was, we'd be all sorts of ****ed. It is technical. But it is real. You're using "done" in a way that "done" doesn't actually mean. The process isn't finished because it's not official. And when things aren't official, things can change. I agree that once the Lions are out we will be likely announcing Johnson as the new HC. I understand, all is good my friend. Peters doing his friend a solid. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo#44 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, RWJ said: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 12 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Negotiations that are in direct violation of league rules and would probably cost us several draft picks. Mara is watching....he's always watching..... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, RVAskins said: Mara is watching....he's always watching..... His organization is a **** show, so he needs to kneecap the competition so he doesn't end up in the basement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, Hitman#21 said: This is why nobody wants to share info here. Replies like this... I'll be back with the official announcement be well. Have a good day! HTTR HTTC That is fair but keep in mind the last time somebody on here kept insisting a deal was done before it officially was, he was claiming Bezos would be the new owner. I think people are just trying to figure out whether you are sharing info as you say or just stating your opinion. Either way, thank you for sharing and I certainly hope you’re right! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 24 Author Share Posted January 24 We all know it's Johnson. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 33 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: --but as Karl Marx once sang, it don't mean nothing, until they sign it on the dotted line. Now I got that song stuck in my head, thx for that. And I've never heard the socialist version of it, is it any good? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I've said before, I'd like to see a Detroit vs Baltimore SB. OC guru (Johnson) vs. DC guru (MacDonald). Rematch as MacDonald owned Johnson first match. Maybe it happens; maybe not. A big hump to get over Lions vs. 9ers. If 9ers win, I think Johnson is named new HC by Monday morning, 1/29 or Tuesday latest, 1/30. JMO. Hopefully, DL coach Weaver named DC too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwards Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, fearlessNelms said: I'll just start by saying that I don't want either of these guys as our next HC. I want MacDonald, Johnson or Slowick, but I could live with Quinn if that were to happen. When you say retreads that have failed elsewhere, I'm assuming you mean never had won a SB with their former teams. If Peters and Harris go the retread route- which I don't think they will, I wouldn't completely hate it because I have full trust in what they're doing and retreads have won it all a bunch of times. While no coach has ever won a SB with two different teams, there have been a lot of them who have won in their second chances. Ewbank, Shula, Shanahan, Vermeil, Belichick, Gruden, Dungy, Coughlin, Kubiak, Carroll, Reid and Arians. That's not to mention guys who have taken multiple teams to the SB but lost with their new teams, Parcells, Holmgren, Fox, Reeves, to name some. I get that most of these guys went to situations where the team had a great quarterback or the team was win ready, but the bottom line is retreads can and do win. Of course, there's a bunch of retreads that have failed miserably, including Rivera, but I can't just casually dismiss retreads as a bad hire by a team that hires one. As I said earlier, I have trust in the guys who are running the show for us now and although retreads like Quinn, Vrabel, Belichick, Harbaugh and Morris are not my preference- with Belichick and Morris being the least desirable for me- I'd be okay with any of the other ones based on trust who's doing the hiring. That's a good write-up. I'd add that, for me, the new FO going with a retread is going to be like them passing on a QB: they better be right or they should be gone. I can stomach them hiring a first time head coach who, in the end, just doesn't work out. Happens all the time. But...if they hire a retread HC and he doesn't work out, then that's a huge black eye on the part of the FO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 43 minutes ago, Hitman#21 said: It's done. Idk how many timesI can say this without saying it lol. But you have been saying it. Over and over. I think the point is that until the ink is dry on a contract, things can absolutely change. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Redwards said: That's a good write-up. I'd add that, for me, the new FO going with a retread is going to be like them passing on a QB: they better be right or they should be gone. I can stomach them hiring a first time head coach who, in the end, just doesn't work out. Happens all the time. But...if they hire a retread HC and he doesn't work out, then that's a huge black eye on the part of the FO. Yeah its kinda the same logic with the QBs. If they take a highly heralded QB prospect and he doesn't pan out, you shrug your shoulders and move on. But if you pass on the guy and he turns into a stud, people will be fired. Being aggressive and taking a chance should always be given a benefit of the doubt. At least, that's my philosophy. Edited January 24 by Warhead36 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 25 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: We all know it's Johnson. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) Tough crowd for Hitman...lol We've been hearing for weeks from a slew of different media outlets, some reputable, that's its Johnson. Hard to ignore the smoke. Edited January 24 by HigSkin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Tough crowd for Hitman...lol We've been hearing for weeks from a slew of different media outlets, some reputable, some not, that's its Johnson. Hard to ignore the smoke. It'll be Johnson unless he completely bombs the interview like show up drunk or something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, HigSkin said: Tough crowd for Hitman...lol We've been hearing for weeks from a slew of different media outlets, some reputable, that's its Johnson. Hard to ignore the smoke. No one is ignoring the smoke, though. Does anyone else ever read conversations here and then see replies and you question your own sanity? Because I feel like I have to be the one missing something here. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly4skins Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) I think we can mostly agree that the next HC is in all likelihood Ben Johnson. Arguing the semantics of if the deal is "done" in principle through his agent. Or, "done" per his name on the dotted line is just painful. We ALL know nothing has been signed. I'm of the opinion that the deal is in fact "done"...as in the term, compensation, and any other particulars have been negotiated and settled upon by his agent and the team...and the signature is just a foregone conclusion. Edited January 24 by formerly4skins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, redskinss said: Now I got that song stuck in my head, thx for that. And I've never heard the socialist version of it, is it any good? You don't sign on dotted line, dotted line signs on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actorguy1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 From what I have heard from local media, yes, Ben Johnson is the number one target. I also believe Ben Johnson wants to be here as well. However, if he doesn't have an impressive interview and another candidate blows them out of the water, then they will go with plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, formerly4skins said: I think we can mostly agree that the next HC is in all likelihood Ben Johnson. Arguing the semantics of if the deal is "done" in principle through his agent. Or, "done" per his name on the dotted line is just painful. We ALL know nothing has been signed. I'm of the opinion that the deal is in fact "done"...as in the term, compensation, and any other particulars have been negotiated and settled upon by his agent...and the signature is just a foregone conclusion. It is definitely the semantics part. Good post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, KDawg said: No one is ignoring the smoke, though. Does anyone else ever read conversations here and then see replies and you question your own sanity? Because I feel like I have to be the one missing something here. Hard to be the only sane people in a nut ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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