Est.1974 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: Interesting... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/ Who’s done that, @Skinsinparadise? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Wouldn't mind Fuaga in the 2nd or even slight trade up. Then maybe get Van Pran with our other 2nd. An interior of Fuaga, Van Pran, and Cosmi could be pretty darn good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Who’s done that, @Skinsinparadise? Never seen a mock like that. But to me mocks are pure entertainment value right now. I also have noticed over the years if a mock drafter does something that might come off a bit wacky or different, their mocks and by extension they get attention and play. If yours looks like everyone else than it seems to be yawn. Edited December 7, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I'm open for anything this offseason to be honest. I'll trust our new regime to do the right thing. Personally I'd like to stick with Howell, I was one of his earliest fans behind KDawg and I'm still a believer, but I'll trust the process. Finally. Agree, I’ve got the same view. Trust the new regime and back their decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said: Where do you all see Brenden Rice being drafted? He has the size and speed to make a great X and I do love a pedigreed player. He's definitely going to be a riser for me. He really stood out the little bit I've watched. He's gonna make Pop Rice proud I think. Obvious, but there are going to be a butt-load of OT's drafted in rounds 1-3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Who knows how things will play out but I do think it's becoming more clear that Jayden Daniels could have an Anthony Richardson rise in the draft. Whether we take him, or if he becomes a trade-back chip for us, it can only be a good thing for as many QBs as possible to get pushed to the top of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: Interesting... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/ I like Chris's mock with us landing Fashanu *right now. OT Jordan Morgan is appropriately mocked in the 1st IMO. He's underrated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I think the floor for Daniels is 4rth overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Does anyone know if Theo Johnson TE PSU is coming out this year, because if so, I have a new draft crush. 6'6" 265 4.54 40 soft hands, poor, but willing tackler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6'6" 250 4.5 40 Baylor Cupp. Not many receptions, but I think that's just the offense. Violent fun blocker though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Never seen a mock like that. But to me mocks are pure entertainment value right now. I also have noticed over the years if a mock drafter does something that might come off a bit wacky or different, their mocks and by extension they get attention and play. If yours looks like everyone else than it seems to be yawn. One thing you've been on lately and most mocks agree, there seems to be a concensus the Giants are going QB with their 1st if one of the top 3 are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, HigSkin said: One thing you've been on lately and most mocks agree, there seems to be a concensus the Giants are going QB with their 1st if one of the top 3 are there. That one is easy. Seems like the obvious thing for them to do. NY media has harped on it. Their fans clearly are on it on twitter from what I saw. Giants have had their scouts all over these QBs from what I read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonialWBSkinsFan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Does anyone know if Theo Johnson TE PSU is coming out this year, because if so, I have a new draft crush. 6'6" 265 4.54 40 soft hands, poor, but willing tackler. Unless our QB is throwing a crap-ton of picks, is this really an important attribute for a TE ? I kid, I kid... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Does anyone know if Theo Johnson TE PSU is coming out this year, because if so, I have a new draft crush. 6'6" 265 4.54 40 soft hands, poor, but willing tackler. He's coming out, I noticed mock drafts have him in th mid-rounds, I haven't watched him yet aside from in real time a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, ColonialWBSkinsFan said: Unless our QB is throwing a crap-ton of picks, is this really an important attribute for a TE ? I kid, I kid... TE has to block. Doesn't need to be a monster, but he has to block. Otherwise you have a bigger tell if its pass or run, than Wylies leg. The Jordan Reed, Fred Davis types that put zero effort into blocking suck ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonialWBSkinsFan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Koolblue13 said: TE has to block. Doesn't need to be a monster, but he has to block. Otherwise you have a bigger tell if its pass or run, than Wylies leg. The Jordan Reed, Fred Davis types that put zero effort into blocking suck ass. Couldn't agree more. "Sleepy" Fred was one of the most infuriating players we've ever had. And that's saying something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: He's coming out, I noticed mock drafts have him in th mid-rounds, I haven't watched him yet aside from in real time a little Cupp and Johnson are two guys we should definitely be targeting. I wonder if they rise up draft boards, since the position has been becoming more of a focus. Your boy LaPorta is going to have everyone looking at TEs earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Chump Bailey said: I like Chris's mock with us landing Fashanu *right now. OT Jordan Morgan is appropriately mocked in the 1st IMO. He's underrated. I didn't realize Morgan was a 2023 likely 1st rounder before tearing his ACL and returning. I will take an injury discount on any player of that caliber assuming medicals check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Our two second round picks look like the sweet spot for OL. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Hypothetical ... but if we somehow managed to make our way up to #3 and let's just say the Giants end up at #5. Would you trade them #3 knowing they're going to come up and draft a QB at #3? They're the main team behind us that would definitely need/want a QB that would still keep us in range of getting Fashanu. Trade them #3 for #5 and #37 and maybe a 2025 2nd round pick? We get Fashanu, an extra #2 and a future 2nd/3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Hypothetical ... but if we somehow managed to make our way up to #3 and let's just say the Giants end up at #5. Would you trade them #3 knowing they're going to come up and draft a QB at #3? They're the main team behind us that would definitely need/want a QB that would still keep us in range of getting Fashanu. Trade them #3 for #5 and #37 and maybe a 2025 2nd round pick? We get Fashanu, an extra #2 and a future 2nd/3rd? Depends on if we are going QB ourself or not. If we are staying with Howell? Sure I make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Hypothetical ... but if we somehow managed to make our way up to #3 and let's just say the Giants end up at #5. Would you trade them #3 knowing they're going to come up and draft a QB at #3? They're the main team behind us that would definitely need/want a QB that would still keep us in range of getting Fashanu. Trade them #3 for #5 and #37 and maybe a 2025 2nd round pick? We get Fashanu, an extra #2 and a future 2nd/3rd? If we take Harrison and the team at 3 takes Daniels, the Giants are still out on QB. Although at 5, I'll assume that both OTs are there, so is Bowers. Harrison probably gone. I don't know if I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: If we take Harrison and the team at 3 takes Daniels, the Giants are still out on QB. Although at 5, I'll assume that both OTs are there, so is Bowers. Harrison probably gone. I don't know if I would. I love Harrison myself. But I would be willing to give him up for Fashanu and two extra 2nds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Theo Johnson has all the prototypical size you want in a TE, but he just didn't have the stats you'd expect. Honestly, it was surprising since Penn State was breaking in a new QB and almost never threw the ball deep. Johnson had a few really bad drops in some early games, Tyler Warren was the more dependable TE. Also, if character issues are a thing, I have no idea what led up to it, but Johnson was in the doghouse a bit for being involved in a fight with several fraternity brothers at their house just before the season started. He didn't miss any games over it, but not the sort of thing you want one of your team captains involved in. On another note, Penn State has become a tight end factory for some reason. They haven't produced a Sam LaPorta type, but in the past decade, they've put Jesse James, Pat Freiermuth, Mike Gesicki, and Brenton Strange into the league, and I suppose they could also claim Juwan Johnson even though he spent his last college season somewhere else. Johnson, Warren, and Zach Kuntz (now with Old Dominion) are probably in the league next year too. I'm not sure why this has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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