Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 My dream scenario now is we trade down with someone who wants a QB and pick up a bunch of draft capital, including a future 1st, and then draft Bowers. Like somewhere around 9 ideally. Stack up OL in the 2nd round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Watching Beebe and Sinnott block is a lot of fun. 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: My dream scenario now is we trade down with someone who wants a QB and pick up a bunch of draft capital, including a future 1st, and then draft Bowers. Like somewhere around 9 ideally. Stack up OL in the 2nd round. Same with me. I'm hoping the Raiders or Saints can get to around 7 or 8 and want to leap the Giants for Daniels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: My dream scenario now is we trade down with someone who wants a QB and pick up a bunch of draft capital, including a future 1st, and then draft Bowers. Like somewhere around 9 ideally. Stack up OL in the 2nd round. Lots of teams would like this scenario and for good reason. Also, I know many may not want to hear this but they may NOT be able to fill all the weak parts of the roster in one off-season. Never hurts to stack Offensive and defensive linemen. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Bantu said: Lots of teams would like this scenario and for good reason. Also, I know many may not want to hear this but they may NOT be able to fill all the weak parts of the roster in one off-season. Never hurts to stack Offensive and defensive linemen. Ever. I'm guessing we'll address OL to some extent in FA. There are some real good Gs that will be available and Connor Williams the Dolphins C might be the jewel of the OL class. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Warhead36 said: I'm guessing we'll address OL to some extent in FA. There are some real good Gs that will be available and Connor Williams the Dolphins C might be the jewel of the OL class. I worry about Williams coming from that offense. Unless we are pulling from their coaching staff. Tua get's the ball out so freaking fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I worry about Williams coming from that offense. Unless we are pulling from their coaching staff. Tua get's the ball out so freaking fast. Perhaps, but I do believe he has some good PFF grades and analytics/metrics rate him highly. But that's always an issue with FA. It can often be just as much a crapshoot as the draft because you never know how guys will fit in your system, how they'll play after getting a fat bag, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Perhaps, but I do believe he has some good PFF grades and analytics/metrics rate him highly. But that's always an issue with FA. It can often be just as much a crapshoot as the draft because you never know how guys will fit in your system, how they'll play after getting a fat bag, etc. There's a big disparity between PFF's OL grades and some other outfits like SIS or ESPN. PFF likes our OL while the other two hate it. PFF and SIS love the Miami OL while ESPN hates it. ...aaaannd while I was typing this Miami just extended their RT Austin Jackson. So that's one potential guy for us off the market. Jonah Williams come on down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Koolblue13 said: Never watched him but his name pops up on everyone's sleeper lists. Those hyped sleepers usually go in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Never watched him but his name pops up on everyone's sleeper lists. Those hyped sleepers usually go in the 2nd round. I'm really liking him. I think he might move to CB3 behind Kool-id and King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Where do you all see Brenden Rice being drafted? He has the size and speed to make a great X and I do love a pedigreed player. Definitely needs more polish, but 6'3" 215 4.39 and solid hand catcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Interesting... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Interesting... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/ Nothing would surprise me. Who knows what direction we go in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: There's a big disparity between PFF's OL grades and some other outfits like SIS or ESPN. PFF likes our OL while the other two hate it According to that list ESPN has us as a higher on average O line than either PFF or SIS. Can't just go off the score, they all use diff grading scales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: My dream scenario now is we trade down with someone who wants a QB and pick up a bunch of draft capital, including a future 1st, and then draft Bowers. Like somewhere around 9 ideally. Stack up OL in the 2nd round. Or maybe we get good picks for trading players like Allen, Mclaurin which gives us more flexibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Nothing would surprise me. Who knows what direction we go in. I'd be furious if we went QB and drafted Daniels over Maye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) Watch Latham (number 65) get to the second level here and destroy: Stone wall with a nasty streak Here he loses initially, recovers and mauls the pass rusher. His handoff to cover the out side blitz is smooth as butter here. Beautiful Right tackle JC Latham sets early tone Time: 14:55 remaining, first quarter Down and distance: 1st and 10 at the Alabama 30. The play: On the Crimson Tide's opening snap, Latham issues the block of the night on the Alabama offensive line with a pancake of Bulldogs linebacker J.P. Purvis. As Latham drives his man completely out of the play, RB Jase McClellan darts through the crease Latham leaves behind with an inside run, then bounces it outside for a 12-yard gain. https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/videos/sports/college/football/2023/10/03/alabama-all-22-video-analysis-vs-mississippi-state/71047467007/ Edited December 8, 2023 by clskinsfan 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: According to that list ESPN has us as a higher on average O line than either PFF or SIS. Can't just go off the score, they all use diff grading scales. Oh hey, you're right! I had assumed the scoring was normalized for even spreads between 0-100, but nope, a 38 was average. I think this more so indicates ESPN thinks there are only a few great OL units, and that most of the league is suffering from poor OL play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Our OL stinks. Any metric that says it doesn’t is a bad metric. I don’t pay attention to any of them so I don’t care who is right and wrong. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 57 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: This is why I love this thread. I would have never watched that guy. Now I have to. thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: This is why I love this thread. I would have never watched that guy. Now I have to. thanks. Trying to up my game for you guys. 28 minutes ago, Panninho said: I'd be furious if we went QB and drafted Daniels over Maye. I'm open for anything this offseason to be honest. I'll trust our new regime to do the right thing. Personally I'd like to stick with Howell, I was one of his earliest fans behind KDawg and I'm still a believer, but I'll trust the process. Finally. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Finally watched Latham and Fuaga. Fuaga is now a draft crush, that guy looks like he's got a lot of tools that could develop into an elite RT. Latham however is a waller, and by that I mean he's someone who tries to rotate his feet so he's in between the defender and where the play is going, sinks his feet in, grabs onto the defenders pads for dear life, and makes sure neither of them move an inch. He walls off his guy from the play. Whether it be pass or run. He's not a drive blocker as he doesn't have the movement skills you want. Latham kind of reminds me of Andre Smith, the old #6 overall pick for the Bengals. He wound up being their RT for awhile and topped out at above average once he wound up in a scheme that was good for him. Andre Smith never sniffed the pro-bowl, and struggled early in the wrong schemes for him, and I see that trajectory for Latham. He could be an above average player, if used right. He's not scheme diverse though. I really like Fuaga. P.S. Does Amarius Mims have injury issues? I see he didn't play much this season, and in the Alabama game he got pulled or hurt for another RT early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Finally watched Latham and Fuaga. Fuaga is now a draft crush, that guy looks like he's got a lot of tools that could develop into an elite RT. Latham however is a waller, and by that I mean he's someone who tries to rotate his feet so he's in between the defender and where the play is going, sinks his feet in, grabs onto the defenders pads for dear life, and makes sure neither of them move an inch. He walls off his guy from the play. Whether it be pass or run. He's not a drive blocker as he doesn't have the movement skills you want. Latham kind of reminds me of Andre Smith, the old #6 overall pick for the Bengals. He wound up being their RT for awhile and topped out at above average once he wound up in a scheme that was good for him. Andre Smith never sniffed the pro-bowl, and struggled early in the wrong schemes for him, and I see that trajectory for Latham. He could be an above average player, if used right. He's not scheme diverse though. I really like Fuaga. P.S. Does Amarius Mims have injury issues? I see he didn't play much this season, and in the Alabama game he got pulled or hurt for another RT early on. Mims is always hurt. He's a day 3 pick for me, but huge upside. I see Fuaga listed as a OG pretty often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: Mims is always hurt. He's a day 3 pick for me, but huge upside. I see Fuaga listed as a OG pretty often. He'd be dominant as a Guard, so I get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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