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Cooked Crack

Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?  

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  1. 1. Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?

    • Yes. He's going 4 for 4. (including Georgia)
    • He's going to lose 3
    • Two for sure
    • He's only going to get convicted in one
    • No. He's going to skate

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4 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

Would be good to have those gag orders in effect

 

What do we think would happen if he didn't have access to amphetamines for more than maybe half a day? I am blown away that with his age, and his weight and that he's clearly on something that has him going to hard all the time, his heart hasn't exploded or he hasn't had a bigger stroke yet. 

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35 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

What do we think would happen if he didn't have access to amphetamines for more than maybe half a day? I am blown away that with his age, and his weight and that he's clearly on something that has him going to hard all the time, his heart hasn't exploded or he hasn't had a bigger stroke yet. 

 

Give it time.

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40 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said:

 

What do we think would happen if he didn't have access to amphetamines for more than maybe half a day? I am blown away that with his age, and his weight and that he's clearly on something that has him going to hard all the time, his heart hasn't exploded or he hasn't had a bigger stroke yet. 

 

Pretty sure he also has multiple doctors who give him all the medications they can talk him into. 

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Judge denies Trump's 'fishing expedition' to subpoena Jan. 6 committee records

 

The federal judge overseeing Donald Trump's upcoming election interference trial said in a ruling Monday that the former president's attempt to subpoena what his legal team dubbed "missing" records from the House Jan. 6 committee appeared to be a "fishing expedition" that was not in good faith.

 

Last month, Trump's team said it wanted to subpoena the U.S. archivist, the clerk of the House of Representatives, the Committee on House Administration, Rep. Barry Loudermilk, R-Ga., and Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., among others, saying there was a "significant overlap between the Select Committee’s investigation and this case" and a strong likelihood that some of the materials would discuss trial witnesses.

 

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan, who will oversee Trump's trial, which is set to get underway in March, said in a ruling Monday that she would not require federal officials to produce records related to the Jan. 6 committee's work.

 

"The broad scope of the records that Defendant seeks, and his vague description of their potential relevance, resemble less 'a good faith effort to obtain identified evidence' than they do 'a general ‘fishing expedition,'" she wrote.

 

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Trump is trying to use campaign to dodge criminal consequences, Manhattan DA says

 

Prosecutors from the Manhattan district attorney’s office accused Donald Trump of trying to use his presidential campaign to shield himself from prosecution, saying in a new court filing that his effort to dismiss his criminal case over hush money payments is “essentially an attempt to evade criminal responsibility” merely because he is “politically powerful.”

 

“Defendant repeatedly suggests that because he is a current presidential candidate, the ordinary rules for criminal law and procedure should be applied differently here,” prosecutors from Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office wrote in the 99-page document. “Courts have repeatedly rejected defendant’s demands for special treatment and instead have adhered to the core principle that the rule of law applies equally to the powerful as to the powerless.”

 

Prosecutors filed the court papers in response to Trump’s October motion to dismiss the criminal case, which his lawyers wrote “has prejudiced President Trump and the public by interfering with his presidential campaign.” The former president’s lawyers, Todd Blanche and Susan Necheles, also denounced the prosecution as “delayed,” and criticized the timing of the charges, saying they stemmed “from a grand jury investigation that commenced approximately ten weeks after President Trump announced his candidacy.”

 

In their filing, prosecutors accused Trump of being disingenuous about the effect of the case on his campaign, saying “the claim of any campaign impairment is undermined by defendant’s frequent public pronouncements that the indictment has strengthened his candidacy.”

 

And they laid out a lengthy justification of the timing of the investigation and eventual charges, attributing the timing to a variety of factors, including an extension of the statute of limitations on the charges due to an executive order by the governor during the Covid-19 pandemic, Trump’s absence from the state while he was president and their effort to pause the inquiry shortly after it was opened in 2018 to accommodate a investigation into the same conduct by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, “which the People did not want to undermine by conducting a concurrent state investigation.”

 

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The civil suit by Congress persons and Capitol Police against Trump can proceed. Appeals court rejects Trump's claim of absolute immunity.  This is a big deal. Text from article below the link.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dc-appeals-court-rules-trump-161723878.html

 

The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals issued a long-awaited ruling Friday determining that former President Donald Trump can be sued for allegedly inciting the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, rejecting his claims of absolute immunity.

 

The court's ruling emphasizes repeatedly that it only focuses on the singular issue of the former president's claim that he should be immune from any civil exposure because he was acting in his official capacity in the days leading up to and on Jan. 6.

 

The decision will now allow members of Congress and officers with the Capitol Police to move forward with a series of lawsuits filed against Trump that are seeking damages for harms they say they suffered as a result of the riot.

 

"The sole issue before us is whether President Trump has demonstrated an entitlement to official-act immunity for his actions leading up to and on January 6 as alleged in the complaints," the court said in its ruling. "We answer no, at least at this stage of the proceedings. When a first-term President opts to seek a second term, his campaign to win re-election is not an official presidential act."

 

 

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On 11/30/2023 at 11:33 AM, China said:

Now the DC Court needs to get off its ass and make a decision to reinstate the gag order in the DC case as well.  Not sure what’s taking them so long.

 

“Sick puppet:” Trump orders Special Counsel Jack Smith to be “put out to rest”

 

Trump called for special counsel Jack Smith to be “defunded” and “put out to rest” in one of his many attacks on Truth Social.

 

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They really need to reinstate that gag order before somebody gets hurt.

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50 minutes ago, China said:

 

“Sick puppet:” Trump orders Special Counsel Jack Smith to be “put out to rest”

 

Trump called for special counsel Jack Smith to be “defunded” and “put out to rest” in one of his many attacks on Truth Social.

 

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They really need to reinstate that gag order before somebody gets hurt.

Sounds like he's commissioning murder.  Should be locked up.

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3 minutes ago, Bang said:

Everyone who can read that knows it, and we won't do anything real about it until it actually happens.

and when it does actually happen, about as much will be done as when Trump unleashed a riot squad on peaceful protesters, or when he tried to steal the election, or when he incited a riot at the capital, or when one of his Dip**** supporters bashed, Nancy Pelosi‘s husband in the head with a hammer etc. etc. etc. 

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Judge Chutkan ruling -- no immunity for Trump (no duh!!).

 

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Defendant’s four-year service as Commander in Chief did not bestow on him the divine right of kings to evade the criminal accountability that governs his fellow citizens.

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It is well established that the First Amendment does not protect speech that is used as an instrument of a crime.

And yet... have a good weekend presumptive GOP nominee.  They basically have crowned him king of their party.... 

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6 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

Judge Chutkan ruling -- no immunity for Trump (no duh!!).

 

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And yet... have a good weekend presumptive GOP nominee.  They basically have crowned him king of their party.... 

 

Link to reporting on this:

 

Federal judge says Trump does not have absolute immunity, denying bid to dismiss election subversion case

 

he federal judge presiding over Donald Trump’s election subversion case in Washington, DC, has refused to dismiss the charges against the former president, saying he does not enjoy absolute immunity for what he said and did after the 2020 election.

 

“The court cannot conclude that our Constitution cloaks former Presidents with absolute immunity for any federal crimes they committed while in office,” US District Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote.

 

This is an issue that likely must be settled by an appeals courts above Chutkan before Trump’s criminal trial, set for March.

 

Chutkan’s opinion – that came after an appeals court said earlier Friday that Trump could be sued in civil proceedings related to the January 6, 2021, riot – is a resounding blow on a significant question about presidential protections that Trump hoped to use as he tries to stave off criminal cases. It also means that unless an appeals court steps in, the judge sees no issue with Trump being tried in the coming year.

 

“Whatever immunities a sitting President may enjoy, the United States has only one Chief Executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ pass. Former Presidents enjoy no special conditions on their federal criminal liability. Defendant may be subject to federal investigation, indictment, prosecution, conviction, and punishment for any criminal acts undertaken while in office,” Chutkan wrote.

 

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