Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said: Im not a Davey guy but ****, the team stranded what? 6 runners in the first 3 inning?. The bullpen is still hot garbage aside from Doo. WTF is Davey supposed to do? There is no magical order that he can summon relievers and they’ll do well, they all ****ing suck. This is a Rizzo problem. He was between a rock and a hard place. But at some point, he has to give other guys a chance. Maybe Blazek shows? He has the stuff. Grace is hot garbage. He needs to e DFA'd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Riggo#44 said: He was between a rock and a hard place. But at some point, he has to give other guys a chance. Maybe Blazek shows? He has the stuff. Grace is hot garbage. He needs to e DFA'd. This theory hinges entirely on a bigass maybe. Maybe (probably) Blazek gets rocked like the rest of them. Point is Davey should have more than one (1) reliable option. **** Grace, his role should be “pitches when they have an 11 run lead in the 5th inning or earlier.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: This theory hinges entirely on a bigass maybe. Maybe (probably) Blazek gets rocked like the rest of them. Point is Davey should have more than one (1) reliable option. **** Grace, his role should be “pitches when they have an 11 run lead in the 5th inning or earlier.” Agree completely--but with more important games--you throw Blazek or Guerra and save the bullet for Dodgers and Braves. We really need another arm--and I worry about Shane Greene's regression, like Herrera last year. They can probably get Jake Diekman cheap and, even thought he isn't great, he's better than Grace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Agree completely--but with more important games--you throw Blazek or Guerra and save the bullet for Dodgers and Braves. We really need another arm--and I worry about Shane Greene's regression, like Herrera last year. They can probably get Jake Diekman cheap and, even thought he isn't great, he's better than Grace Yeah. I'm not too keen on Rizzo's penchant for bullpen arms under control beyond the season. Bullpen rentals are a crap shoot. Multiyear rock like Doolittle is the exception, not the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Agree completely--but with more important games--you throw Blazek or Guerra and save the bullet for Dodgers and Braves. We really need another arm--and I worry about Shane Greene's regression, like Herrera last year. They can probably get Jake Diekman cheap and, even thought he isn't great, he's better than Grace A win over the Rockies is the same as a win over LAD. What is Johnny Venter’s status? Not that he’s Mariano Rivera, but he seems serviceable. Edited July 26, 2019 by PleaseBlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 Here's someone I'd like to see called up: http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=607555#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL Don't look too much at the ERA--the PCL is like pitching in Coors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Here's someone I'd like to see called up: http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=607555#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL Don't look too much at the ERA--the PCL is like pitching in Coors. What’s the arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said: What’s the arsenal? From November: https://2080baseball.com/reports/taylor-guilbeau/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 15 hours ago, StillUnknown said: I don't think the curse cares about hockey one way or the other In all seriousness, there is no real curse - just two poorly run franchises and a baseball team that is good but hasn't broken through yet. We're all in this together good sir - well except that one weird person on here who was like I hope the other three franchises don't win for years but the rest of us were like uhhh yeah no F that sentiment 🍻 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 11 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: I mean, they are 36-16 in their last 52 games. This isn't really a situation where other teams are catching up. I definitely isn't but we finally have a legitimate playoff chase for this team after 13 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 It's frustrating because this team is way too talented to be worrying about teams that are 6-7 games over .500, but that's what this bullpen did to it. September is going to be one of the most stressful months in the history of this franchise. Incredibly hard schedule and we play nearly every playoff relevant NL team then. Rizzo has a lot of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Some starter will be cut from a bottom feeder soon. We always find someone like a edwin jackson as a 5th starter it seems. How about guys like aaron barrett? Grace and Sipp are pretty useless. Where's Barraclough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: Some starter will be cut from a bottom feeder soon. We always find someone like a edwin jackson as a 5th starter it seems. How about guys like aaron barrett? Grace and Sipp are pretty useless. Where's Barraclough? Wherever Barraclough is, Grace needs to join him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: We really need another arm--and I worry about Shane Greene's regression, like Herrera last year. They can probably get Jake Diekman cheap and, even thought he isn't great, he's better than Grace I'm leery of Diekman. I don't know much about the guy but I frequent a Philly board (all sports) for opponent perspective and I remember Diekman's nickname was "gas can" since he always seemed to make fires worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 12 hours ago, skinfan2k said: its not daveys fault. we just dont have enough arms. Rainey need to be that 8th inning guy. Javy Guerra threw zero pitches in a 4 game series where the BP threw 15 innings. ZERO. Never even warmed up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Sticksboi05 said: I definitely isn't but we finally have a legitimate playoff chase for this team after 13 years. I think people seem to forget 2012, we won the division by only 4 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: Javy Guerra threw zero pitches in a 4 game series where the BP threw 15 innings. ZERO. Never even warmed up. 6 runs allowed in his last 0.2 IP over 2 outings. Rather roll with a half dead Rodney. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: Javy Guerra threw zero pitches in a 4 game series where the BP threw 15 innings. ZERO. Never even warmed up. He grinds the guys he trusts down, while never giving anyone else a shot. Very single minded, which doesn't bode well for any playoffs, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: He grinds the guys he trusts down, while never giving anyone else a shot. Very single minded, which doesn't bode well for any playoffs, honestly. Results would be much better if we had 4 fairly reliable relievers not 1 and a like three 50/50 guys. Up to Rizzo to get us there in the next 5 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Up to Rizzo to get us there in the next 5 days. Yeah, but I don't have much hope beyond Diekman. The Tigers were asking for Carter Kieboom for Greene. That ain't happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Results would be much better if we had 4 fairly reliable relievers not 1 and a like three 50/50 guys. Up to Rizzo to get us there in the next 5 days. Probably only possible to get 1 additional arm. Which is okay. Doolittle is great. Rodney is probably fine if we don't grind him down to dust. Suero is decent. Add another quality arm to the mix, figure in the strength of the starters and more stretched out playoff schedule, you could probably do it with good situational managing. It would be fantastic if we can get one additional good bullpen arm and one situational lefty, but that's a pretty tall order. In related news, as someone who beat the drums to sign Kimbrel, after two disastrous appearances to open his season, he has given up 3 hits and no runs in his last 8 appearances. Nats might have been able to use him ffs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, bearrock said: In related news, as someone who beat the drums to sign Kimbrel, after two disastrous appearances to open his season, he has given up 3 hits and no runs in his last 8 appearances. Nats might have been able to use him ffs.... I really don't trust him at all. 5.28 FIP, 5.8 BB/9, has a very high pitch count per appearance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 35 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Yeah, but I don't have much hope beyond Diekman. The Tigers were asking for Carter Kieboom for Greene. That ain't happening. I mean, one, **** the Tigers. Two, I’d be ok with moving either Kieboom or Garcia in a package but it better be a goddamn good package coming back to us. I’m talking multiple top relievers, even if we have to get a third team involved here to make it happen. I think Garcia is going to be good but he’s only 19 so a lot can still go wrong with his development. I think Kieboom is going to be really good, but IF we resign Rendon that makes Kieboom “just a 2B” for us. And solid hitting 2B haven’t been tough to find in FA the past few years. Just not a premium position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riggo#44 Posted July 26, 2019 Author Share Posted July 26, 2019 By the way, that thud you heard was Lucas Giolito returning to Earth: 6.38 ERA over his last 7 starts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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