Hersh Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Yes he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TD_washingtonredskins said: So, here is what I would do between now and 7/31.... Sell at any cost: Jones, Britton, Valencia, Trumbo, and Brach Listen and consider trading: Schoop, Gausman, and Givens Probably hold unless blown away: Bundy I only really included the guys I thought that people might ask for. I'd be selling on Bundy and Gausman. I think we could get a good package back for Bundy. A team that can score some runs and look at him as a 3rd starter could bring back some good talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I'd be selling on Bundy and Gausman. I think we could get a good package back for Bundy. A team that can score some runs and look at him as a 3rd starter could bring back some good talent. I agree. Trade anyone that gets you a plus deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm OK with that too...my main point is that anyone who isn't under team control for quite some time needs to be moved for whatever we can. As you get to the players who do have some control, the return needs to be better. There are other milestones (next year's deadline, for example) to consider as well with those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I’m probably not trading Schoop, Bundy or Gausman at this point. I think the O’s would be selling low and they would be better served to wait until the off-season. Not that I wouldn’t listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hersh said: I’m probably not trading Schoop, Bundy or Gausman at this point. I think the O’s would be selling low and they would be better served to wait until the off-season. Not that I wouldn’t listen. I'm fine with that - when I say "listen" I just mean that they are open to it but don't feel compelled to do it at all costs. They have the off-season and next year's deadline which might raise value. But, if Jones, Brach, or Britton are still here in August I'll be frustrated. I'd also love for them to unload a couple guys just to clear room (Valencia, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 No way Britton is here. Only way Jones is here is if he vetoes a trade. I don’t know how much of a market there is for Brach. Won’t be much of a return but I hope he goes too. I’d love to see some spots open up. Valencia may be on the team into August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hersh said: No way Britton is here. Only way Jones is here is if he vetoes a trade. I don’t know how much of a market there is for Brach. Won’t be much of a return but I hope he goes too. I’d love to see some spots open up. Valencia may be on the team into August. That all sounds like what I think too...market or not, I think Brach is only under contract through this year so he's someone I'd sell for virtually anything. Same with Valencia, though that could happen in August. I'd love to trick someone into taking Trumbo, but his contract isn't all that restrictive...it's just a spot in the lineup he's taking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, Hersh said: No way Britton is here. Only way Jones is here is if he vetoes a trade. I don’t know how much of a market there is for Brach. Won’t be much of a return but I hope he goes too. I’d love to see some spots open up. Valencia may be on the team into August. I think teams looking for more value whom don't want to give up higher prospect(s) for Britton would in in on Brach. He's having a "bad" year but his FIP is in line with his career numbers. He's just not a closer. I think the O's could absolutely peel off a C+ prospect or two for him. Especially a playoff team that wants one more dependable arm for the postseason to shorten the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Kinda interesting how Valencia could never find a home. For a guy that's a solid major league hitter that crushes left handed pitching, never more than 3 years in one spot. If he were just a little bit better against righthanded pitching, you could insert him at DH and leave him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, justice98 said: Kinda interesting how Valencia could never find a home. For a guy that's a solid major league hitter that crushes left handed pitching, never more than 3 years in one spot. If he were just a little bit better against righthanded pitching, you could insert him at DH and leave him there. In some ways that sounds just like the type of guy who would bounce around a bit. He's a luxury as a platoon player for a good team. If he's in your everyday lineup, you could stand to improve there. But if he's coming off the bench to hit lefties, that's a nice-to-have. Usually someone like that switches hands from teams not in the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hersh said: I’m probably not trading Schoop, Bundy or Gausman at this point. I think the O’s would be selling low and they would be better served to wait until the off-season. Not that I wouldn’t listen. Remember when Schoop was a building block though? Where we were worrying about how we were gonna keep this budding star in the making? Those were the days. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I would still keep Schoop as a building block but the “plan” sounds like they don’t want to pay even young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Sounds like Britton talks are accelerating... Crasnick has named the Cubs, Sox, Yankees, Giants, Astros, and Phillies as interested teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, justice98 said: Remember when Schoop was a building block though? Where we were worrying about how we were gonna keep this budding star in the making? Those were the days. lol Remember when people on the board thought he'd need 100 million to re-sign? Imagine if that had happened this past offseason!He and Davis, the quarter billion bums. I just guess we'll have to see how the rest of this year and next goes. He probably is just having a lot season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hersh said: I would still keep Schoop as a building block but the “plan” sounds like they don’t want to pay even young players. I wonder if he'd want to stay. If not, we'd be best served to trade him by next year's deadline (enough time for him to progress to the mean but also still giving the trade partner some team control). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share Posted July 20, 2018 Would like to see us trade Britton. I think that happens, too. It seems like he's the other hot player on the market now. Was listening to the BBTN podcast, they are saying its a down market this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoyler23 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Was listening to the BBTN podcast, they are saying its a down market this year. The AL is essentially sewn up save for one widlcard berth, and even then, it's between two AL West teams. That hurts because there are fewer graspers out there and thus, more sellers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TheDoyler23 said: I think teams looking for more value whom don't want to give up higher prospect(s) for Britton would in in on Brach. He's having a "bad" year but his FIP is in line with his career numbers. He's just not a closer. I think the O's could absolutely peel off a C+ prospect or two for him. Especially a playoff team that wants one more dependable arm for the postseason to shorten the game. Was reading comments on MASN and someone suggested Brach and Britton as a package. That wouldn't be bad but teams would likely need to send salary back to the O's to stay under that threshold. I'd be open to whatever nets the best prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, TheDoyler23 said: Remember when people on the board thought he'd need 100 million to re-sign? Imagine if that had happened this past offseason!He and Davis, the quarter billion bums. I just guess we'll have to see how the rest of this year and next goes. He probably is just having a lot season. I think he is going to bounce back. He's trended up nicely the last few years in a lot of ways and he's been great at 2nd for the most part. He's helped turn numerous DPs with his cannon of an arm and is great in the shift in the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Hersh said: I would still keep Schoop as a building block but the “plan” sounds like they don’t want to pay even young players. If they can't extend Schoop, they should trade him. Not after this year (probably wouldn't get much anyway), but definitely before he hits FA. There's not much point in keeping anyone on the roster who is going to hit FA before 2022, and who you don't view as a stopgap. We should not make the same mistake we did with Machado and Britton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFanInMinn Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Vintage Os loss. Beckham should have had three errors that game. Two in the bottom of the tenth. Generous scoring for them not to be errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, SkinFanInMinn said: Vintage Os loss. Beckham should have had three errors that game. Two in the bottom of the tenth. Generous scoring for them not to be errors. I would bet good money that those will be changed. It's absurd his first throw in the tenth wasn't immediately ruled an error. Whomever made that decision should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 It just sort of hit me that Manny Machado no longer plays for us ☹ It took a day or two to hit me. Such a good player, one of my favorite O's ever, might even be my second favorite behind Cal. And I don't care about the steroid stuff I still really like Rafael Palmeiro. 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFanInMinn Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Freakin Brach. Don’t know if I’m more upset that he gave up the lead or that he’s blowing his trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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