Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: We live in the midst of an apocalyptic, right-wing, evangelical death cult...and these mass shootings are the desired result. I wouldn’t say that. I mean, not in the sense that they were the end goal. A predictable and acceptable consequence, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I wouldn’t say that. I mean, not in the sense that they were the end goal. A predictable and acceptable consequence, yes. You’re too kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, redskins59 said: I am reading on twitter that 8chan is very radical. Just today, they have posts there about how to create chemical weapons. All I know is, 8chan is an offshoot of 4chan, and was created because 4chan wasn't radical enough. Think about that for a second. It seems to be similar to Isis or Al Qaeda websites, but catering to White extremists. So why has it not been labeled a terrorist website yet? All these White terrorists have been using these websites for a while now. From what I recall, the Synagogue terrorist from last year was also another 8chan guy. First of all, let me say it’s almost certain the NSA has been watching 8chan and 4chan (and others) for years now. Reading your description however, paints a picture of 8chan as some sort of organized evil organization. A place displaying some measure of competence and general direction. The reality is much less impressive, and much more depressing. Do you know what an internet troll is? Picture the worst one you’ve ever seen, someone willing to say absolutely anything at all to make people angry. Now imagine a thousand of them on one forum where they’re allowed to post anything they want. That’s 8 Chan. I’m not sure it would be fair to say that forum is a terrorist forum, that’s much too specific. It probably attracts the mentally unwell of all kinds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I wouldn’t say that. I mean, not in the sense that they were the end goal. A predictable and acceptable consequence, yes. There is a long history of US politicians celebrating, aiding and abetting white terrorists and their acts of violence. In the past the support was more overt, in its current form it's done tacitly, although Trump is more overt than his recent predecessors. Edited August 4, 2019 by No Excuses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) Edited August 4, 2019 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Less then a minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, No Excuses said: Focusing on domestic terror cells will mean that we actually have to address the underlying cause of their growth, which is the political agenda of a mainstream party and the role that its propaganda outlets play in spreading hate and fear. The shooters manifesto, which everyone should read, could have been the opening monologue of Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham's nightly show on Fox. Just pointing out that the kind of violent divisive provocation is also the kind of thing that Russia has been promoting in our society, too. Who knows, maybe we would be allowed to do something about that? Since it doesn't necessarily directly point out that Russia's actions are also supporting out of our political parties? (OK. Yeah, right. In Fantasyland.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Please, man, dont be some white lady with a black boyfriend and the racist white brother couldnt handle it. That's a new low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: How is that irrelevant when the conversation is about both sides doing nothing. It it is irrelevant because the GOP is in the pocket of the NRA. So yes, technically they could have done something. It’s irrelevant because the GOP will not do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Interesting.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 1 minute ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: It it is irrelevant because the GOP is in the pocket of the NRA. So yes, technically they could have done something. It’s irrelevant because the GOP will not do it. You're using that word improperly. Saying it's irrelevant insinuates that it doesnt matter, it absolutely matters. I'm really not sure what you are getting at with this, like GOP doesnt bare any responsibility for this because we should expect them to get bought off by the gun lobby? Is what it is? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, FanboyOf91 said: Onion: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens And there's a more subtle "joke" in this article, too. Spoiler This is the third (fourth?) time they've run this exact 'story', changing nothing but the name of the town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skintime Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 48 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Scary thing ink is knowing which side has more guns and are more proficient with them. If you do, learn how to use it. Go to the range ALOT!!! Romberg it’s 10% having the gun and 90% being good at using it. I’d like to reign in the 1st amendment the way many want to with the 2nd. Websites like 4chan and what not should be shut down. Crazy conspiracy bull**** driving hate needs to be squashed. And well **** like Trump says sometimes should be illegal. No kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: You're using that word improperly. Saying it's irrelevant insinuates that it doesnt matter, ? The fact that the GOP had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency is irrelevant (doesn’t matter) because they were never ever going to act on any form of gun control. Edited August 4, 2019 by CousinsCowgirl84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Just now, CousinsCowgirl84 said: ? The fact that the GOP had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency is irrelevant (doesn’t matter) because they were never ever going to act on any form of gun control. That's like saying "boys will be boys" when they out here raping people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: ? The fact that the GOP had control of both houses of Congress and the presidency is irrelevant (doesn’t matter) because they were never ever going to act on any form of gun control. I wouldn't say it's irrelevant. It definitely something that should be brought up, even more because of this. It makes more sense to say that we shouldn''t expect anything from the GOP, but we should keep pushing them and bringing it up anyway, either to force change or to get them voted out. Edited August 4, 2019 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Of course video games are not the problem but I’m OK with making it illegal to own a military style weapon or more than one gun or a gun that holds more than a few rounds AND a video game. The only time I wanted to kill someone after playing a video game was ET on the Atari. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 4 hours ago, RansomthePasserby said: In the FBI’s (and law enforcement in general) defense, I don’t think they can know who is really posting what on websites where people can hide behind anonymity. Also, I’m sure there’s millions of disgusting, but ultimately harmless things being posted on the web every day, so sifting through everything to find the real threats to focus resources on in time to actually stop something before it happens is not an easy task. Ding ding ding. No, there is no way to reliably detect one individual person who's going to decide this afternoon to go kill a bunch of people. It's at least theoretically possible to intervene in somebody's planning for a terrorist action. His buying of specialized supplies or equipment. Recruiting of a team. Seeking specialized training or knowledge. Steps taken to get ready for a spree. But as long as society insists on handing people the tool they need to become a mass murderer, and creating a situation in which the only thing between said person and a mass murderer is his own decision not to do it, then it's going to happen. In effect, we have made a conscious decision to give every person in America an app for their phone, which gives every person in America the ability to kill five random people by pushing a button. And then act surprised when occasionally, one person, somewhere, decides to push the button. Only way to stop it, is to get rid of the app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 17 minutes ago, Larry said: Onion: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens And there's a more subtle "joke" in this article, too. Hide contents This is the third (fourth?) time they've run this exact 'story', changing nothing but the name of the town. That's deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 3 hours ago, AsburySkinsFan said: This is why background checks is a bull**** half assed effort that will solve NOTHING. Therefore we should oppose even bothering to try it. - The NRA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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