PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, thebluefood said: 1.) Prefer D.C. proper but I wouldn't mind suggestions for Maryland especially since my family in the area primarily lives there. 2.) Either/or. I feel more at home at a greasy spoon or a pub but sometimes it's nice to be a nice sit-down kinda place. Bub & Pops for sandwiches: http://www.bubandpops.com/daily-menu-and-catering.html Beefsteak (Jose Andres' fast casual place near GW) District Rico (Peruvian chicken) District Taco is always solid. When I was a broke grad student, all of the sit-down places I went to were in VA because I lived in FFX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 3:12 PM, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: I've been gone for nearly 10 years, but I was pretty active with the theater crowd when I was there. I do think that outside of NYC and maybe Chicago, DC has the best theater scene in the country. Arena Stage is a treasure and it's one of the few regional theaters that seems to have actually lifted all boats around it. I tend to put the Shakespeare Company and especially Ford's in their own boxes, but the point is you can see really interesting stuff in either a world-class facility or in the back of a bar. I was probably slightly too old when I moved to DC to really dive into it, but I do think the local music scene was on the lame side when I lived there. Which was sad, because I grew up reading up the DC scene when I was a kid. I think gentrification kills music scenes while it sustains theatre scenes. I'm pretty much of the opinion that another great band will never come out of Manhattan and will probably never come out of Brooklyn because there is no place to practice or perform on the cheap. The food scene...Is there a city in the country without a burgeoning food scene? I have a friend from freaking Frederick who swears they have a food scene. Zoony is going to stop by here at some point and tell us all about the Knoxville food scene. Celebrity chefs + downtown renovations mean that any recent culinary grad can find a tax-free space to open a kitchen and present his or her version of Creole/Thai fusion. If there is an issue with DC, it's that so so so much of the interesting history and culture is black history and culture, and it still felt very segregated on that level in 2010. I'm never been very interested in spending much money on a fine dining experience .... "pretty good and interesting" is frankly good enough for me. (so, yeah...try that Persian place, or that Turkish place occasionally... but nothing that is going to hurt my wallet much. And my wife would be happy to never eat out again. ever. (its crazy). On the other hand... my wife has been expressing some interest in hitting up the theater scene occasionally, and i would like to encourage and follow-through on that. But i have no idea where to begin. as a kid/teen/college kid my mom LOVED the theater (plus opera/symphony/ballet...all lumped together), and would beg for me to come with her all the time, and she had some level of season pass alternatively at Wolf Trap, Kennedy Center, National and Warner. But other than occasionally going to productions on campus in grad school, or shows oriented towards kids (lion the witch and the wardrobe type stuff) i have never done any theater-ing on my own. where would you recommend most? for a surprise visit for her? I know we can get the grand opera-house experience at Kennedy... but a more intimate setting? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulSkin Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I'm just gonna leave this here. " An opera-in-suspension based on the complete live archives of iconic underground band Fugazi." https://objectcollection.us/project/its-all-true/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/8/2018 at 12:41 AM, Kosher Ham said: ..... The construction of the new one made my property value more than double. Barry was a good dude. He was re-elected because he did care about the city and the citizens. Barry was AWFUL. I think he was probably very good as an activist and a council member, and may have even started out relatively decent as mayor.. but he got corrupted and sucked donkey nuts. He behaved like a banana-republic dictator and greased the palms of his political connections as if the city was his private inheritance. He sucked. hell... perhaps he was even good on the city council member AFTER he was mayor..? i dunno.... ? but he is impossible to defend in his tenure as mayor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) You've always lived in Virginia right ? Edited February 13, 2018 by Kosher Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 correct. and i didn't live in the DC area from 1993 through 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I also didn't live in Venezuela under Hugo Chavez, or Zimbabwe under Mugabe, or Argentina under the Kircheners, or Indonesia under Suharto, or South Africa under Zuma ..etc..etc...etc... but i still can recognize their problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, mcsluggo said: I'm never been very interested in spending much money on a fine dining experience .... "pretty good and interesting" is frankly good enough for me. (so, yeah...try that Persian place, or that Turkish place occasionally... but nothing that is going to hurt my wallet much. And my wife would be happy to never eat out again. ever. (its crazy). On the other hand... my wife has been expressing some interest in hitting up the theater scene occasionally, and i would like to encourage and follow-through on that. But i have no idea where to begin. as a kid/teen/college kid my mom LOVED the theater (plus opera/symphony/ballet...all lumped together), and would beg for me to come with her all the time, and she had some level of season pass alternatively at Wolf Trap, Kennedy Center, National and Warner. But other than occasionally going to productions on campus in grad school, or shows oriented towards kids (lion the witch and the wardrobe type stuff) i have never done any theater-ing on my own. where would you recommend most? for a surprise visit for her? I know we can get the grand opera-house experience at Kennedy... but a more intimate setting? If you really want to be a hipster, I would go to Studio. https://www.studiotheatre.org/ It's actually doubled in size and been thoroughly remodeled since I've been there. And that part of town is now filled with zillionaires instead of crack dealers. But it's still intimate, hip, and generally excellent. Most of the actors are young and are probably students there. The goal of all of them is to get to Arena Stage - some of them probably already have. I would absolutely see this: https://www.studiotheatre.org/plays/play-detail/2017-2018-translations Now, if you want to go beyond hipster and just take off into the ether of artsyness, go here: https://www.capitalfringe.org/ Edited February 13, 2018 by Lombardi's_kid_brother 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think Marion Barry's tenure has been a lot more complex than Robert Mugabe. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 3:41 PM, PleaseBlitz said: Your friend is Frederick is probably specifically referencing Volt, which is owned by a Top Chef-type celebrity chef* who for whatever reason decided to go to Frederick. He's from Frederick. I believe he opened the first Family Meal restaurant in Frederick too. While obviously the Frederick food scene isn't going to show up on any lists that span the country, there are quite a few great places to get a bite to eat from holes in the wall to fine dining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: I think Marion Barry's tenure has been a lot more complex than Robert Mugabe. Just sayin'. Mugabe didn't start as a completely awful leader... he raised literacy from 60% to 80% in one decade and raised immunization rates from 20-ish% to over 80%, while leading a government of national unity (including across races). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I love going to the Mall. When I say that to anyone from outside of DC... confusion is clearly on their face, or reaction. Just walking around down there and realizing how amazing DC is. I took my wife to the Mall 2 years ago. Her first time in DC. She made me realize why I miss living in DC. Then I come back here and realize...Come on man, traffic, weather... I'll stay in this new South... for now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yeah when we're talking about tenures of folks like Mugabe and even domestic leaders like Marion Barry, we're talking about some complex and interconnected socio-economic factors that would require a whole different thread altogether. Barry is not at the top of my "most admired political leaders" list but there were a lot of people in high places that wanted to see him and the "Home Rule Experiment" as a whole fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mcsluggo said: Mugabe didn't start as a completely awful leader... he raised literacy from 60% to 80% in one decade and raised immunization rates from 20-ish% to over 80%, while leading a government of national unity (including across races). You could point to any tyrant in history and note some positive accomplishments. Mussolini made the trains run on time and all that (which is actually a myth). Hitler oversaw an incredible transformation of the German economy during the Great Depression. That doesn't make them not awful. Marion Barry, on the other hand, had significant personal failings and didn't follow a lot of the rules, but for the most part did things to benefit the citizens of DC, even if they were unpopular with people from outside of DC. He has also never, to my knowledge, been accused of human rights abuses or crimes against humanity. Edited February 13, 2018 by PleaseBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: I love going to the Mall. When I say that to anyone from outside of DC... confusion is clearly on their face, or reaction. Just walking around down there and realizing how amazing DC is. I took my wife to the Mall 2 years ago. Her first time in DC. She made me realize why I miss living in DC. Then I come back here and realize...Come on man, traffic, weather... I'll stay in this new South... for now. When people come to visit DC and ask me what they should do (including one of our intrepid mods), I tell them to start at the Lincoln Memorial and walk east. See the Vietnam Memorial, WWII, White House, Washington Monument, all of the Smithsonian buildings (if you have time, stop in American History) and finally the Capitol. Depending on when you start, you should be starving at this point. It's then a short walk to Good Stuff Eatery for burgers. When it's nice I leave work and head down to the Mall for a jog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 In other news - apparently, there was a Washington team in the NFL before the 'Skins came to town in 1937. Like a lot of other pro football teams of the day, they were named after the local baseball team. http://sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/was21/senators.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: You could point to any tyrant in history and note some positive accomplishments. Mussolini made the trains run on time and all that (which is actually a myth). Hitler oversaw an incredible transformation of the German economy during the Great Depression. That doesn't make them not awful. Marion Barry, on the other hand, had significant personal failings and didn't follow a lot of the rules, but for the most part did things to benefit the citizens of DC, even if they were unpopular with people from outside of DC. He has also never, to my knowledge, been accused of human rights abuses or crimes against humanity. agreed, agreed, and agreed (my point in bringing up Mugabe's meager accomplishments wasn't to laud him with acclaim.. but to point out that even the very worst leaders have SOME accomplishments, and that all of these corrupt leaders tend to be better early on, before the power FULLY corrupts) ... but the MAIN difference between the situation facing Barry and Mugabe was the oversight that Barry was subjected to, but was absent or ineffective for Mugabe. The trajectory that Barry took gave every indication that he was willing to skip right along the Mugabe path, if no-one was there to stop him. (and ... this is what gives us all hope in the era of Donald ****ing Trump) Edited February 13, 2018 by mcsluggo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: When people come to visit DC and ask me what they should do (including one of our intrepid mods), I tell them to start at the Lincoln Memorial and walk east. See the Vietnam Memorial, WWII, White House, Washington Monument, all of the Smithsonian buildings (if you have time, stop in American History) and finally the Capitol. Depending on when you start, you should be starving at this point. It's then a short walk to Good Stuff Eatery for burgers. You don't send them to the Tune Inn? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, China said: You don't send them to the Tune Inn? Given the mod that I advised, a dead animal-themed dive bar probably would have been a good pick. *cough* @zoony *cough* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: Given the mod that I advised, a dead animal-themed dive bar probably would have been a good pick. My kids love dive bars! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, mcsluggo said: correct. and i didn't live in the DC area from 1993 through 2004 Best time to be in DC for me. From the hood to the good: work, school, food, and nightlife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 Nationals Pitchers and Catchers report today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I think Tracks was basically right underneath where the ball park is now....back when that area seemed/felt/looked like a war zone. http://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/04/25/glory-days-tracks-gay-nightlife-staple-of-80s-90s-remembered-fondly/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsluggo Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 my favorite bar in the 80s... https://wtop.com/news/2012/04/30-years-later-poseurs-nightclub-reunion-set/slide/1/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share Posted February 16, 2018 Something I used to do a lot when I lived in North Carolina and got homesick was learn about the various neighborhoods in the city. This one always fascinated me especially: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swampoodle,_Washington,_D.C. "Swampoodle" - such a strange name. D.C. first National League team played there (like most D.C. baseball teams, they were awful) but what fascinated me most was that it was a largely Irish neighborhood during and immediately after the potato famine. You always hear about the Irish neighborhoods in NYC, Boston, Chicago and Philly but never in D.C. Washington's been an enclave for immigrants but you don't hear that as much as you do about other cities on the East Coast or the Midwest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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