Renegade7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, No Excuses said: How to lose Florida in 5 seconds or less. Bernie is going to be an interesting test of how stupid **** just doesn’t matter anymore on the grand scale. Trump has proven this by now. I want to agree with you, bad. If any other country did this and had the same results, what would we say? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Literacy_Campaign Bernie needs to avoid attaching examples of where he wants worked to folks like Castro that are jus too toxic to support. It's a similar problem I have with Russia under Stalin, sure they went through widely successful catchup phase in regards to industrialization, but my God the **** he did to his population to get that done. That's an example of a programs where I wouldnt even bother mentioning the results, the means to get there were of a historically disturbing level. I dont think get your countries literacy rate from 2/3 to near 100% in 30 years should fall in that category, but I agree, he might as well not use examples of countries that used authoritarianism to implement their successes in socialism. Stick with Scandinavia, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 How much longer until someone calls him anti-semitic then Bernie gets to remind people's hes Jewish? I'm like 100% someone is out there saying this while in the same breathe saying Trump is good Christian to try and pwn a lib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Literacy Program, huh? Smooth one, Krusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: How much longer until someone calls him anti-semitic then Bernie gets to remind people's hes Jewish? True, but he's no Steve Miller or Jared Kushner. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada CANDIDATE COUNTY DELEGATES PLEDGED DELEGATES SANDERS 47.1% 18 BIDEN 20.9% 7 BUTTIGIEG 13.6% 1 WARREN 9.7% 0 STEYER 4.6% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Something else that I think people should keep in mind when voting in the primaries is Why do Trump supporters and Russia want Bernie as the nominee. If they are supporting the same candidate I am, I’d at least stop and ask why and reevaluate if I am on the right side. Just observing, when the Trumpers found out that Russia was supporting Trump, they reevaluated . . . . their opinion of Russia. Suddenly, like 55% of Republicans had a favorable opinion of Russia. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 The Russia stuff does make me uncomfortable with Sanders tho. Not really how much they like him, but how cozy he is with them. The thing with his wife on RT bothers me way more than it probably should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Llevron said: The Russia stuff does make me uncomfortable with Sanders tho. Not really how much they like him, but how cozy he is with them. The thing with his wife on RT bothers me way more than it probably should. In fairness, she was talking to Ed Schultz, (RIP). While he was on RT when he passed, he was a long time MSNBC anchor...a little extreme, but always fought for the little guy, small business, and the working class, including unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Looking at the county results (below the main results) here is kind of interesting. As are the differences between popular vote and delegates in the county results. https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I had to watch Marianne Williamson’s speech to see the crazy from Zenon but wow. She gave a really nice speech comparing this movement and time of needed change to slavery abolitionists, women’s suffrage, and civil rights and how all those movements stepped up in the face of being told no it wasn’t time and wasn’t going to happen and enacted change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88Comrade2000 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 12 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Something. Major like MFA or Green New Deal, no, but I expect him to stop siding with Israel in the UN in everything for example. The Executive Branch is still overpowered and would definitely not get in the way of investigations on the previous administration. Everything they tried to hide will come to light at minimum, right? No. because everything will be destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Sanders sends Democratic establishment into panic mode ’Nearly insurmountable’: Bernie barrels toward Super Tuesday delegate windfall We will see who is right about Bernie. Can Bernie bring the record numbers of voters he will need to overcome the voters he will lose and be more than what Trump will bring in the key states. Stay tuned. Bernie may have the younger the voters locked up and if he somehow wins, they will be the reason he wins. He won't get alot of the older voters(Gex X, Baby Boomers and older) though. Unless, they are already inclined to vote that way; they aren't going to be rushing to vote for Bernie. Alot of those older voters will buy the attack adds that the Trump & GOP will run. They won't necessarily vote for Trump but they definitely won't for Bernie. You just have to hope they still come out and vote down ticket if they skip voting for Bernie. Also, will they be motivated to come out and even vote? Unless they have been personally harmed during the Trump era; they may not be motivated to come out. For Bernie to win, his bet that he will bring out voters who have never voted or haven't voted in a long time; will have to come true. His revolution will have to be a revolution. He will be relying on voters who haven't voted in a while or not voted at all. He will also be looking for the young voters- who haven't been the most reliable voters to come out in record numbers. We will see what happens in the fall. I also do believe someone will run as a third party, sensing the opportunity when the 2 main choices are Bernie and Donald. Who will that be? No clue. Could Bloomberg change his mind and run third party? Maybe. Whoever does it will need money to get on the ballots. There will be a #NeverBernie movement arise and that movement probably starts on March 4, when it becomes clear Bernie is well on the way to the nomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSaints_fan Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Llevron said: The Russia stuff does make me uncomfortable with Sanders tho. Not really how much they like him, but how cozy he is with them. The thing with his wife on RT bothers me way more than it probably should. Russia probably wants Sanders because they don't think he can beat Trump. Its got nothing to do with wanting Sanders to be President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCSaints_fan said: Russia probably wants Sanders because they don't think he can beat Trump. Its got nothing to do with wanting Sanders to be President. This. Trump is the most pro-Russia president ever. They know that in 22nd Trump term, NATO will be dismantled. Trump will go full pro-Russia on everything after the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: No. because everything will be destroyed. By the Intelligence Community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 This is a healthcare election. Not a foreign policy nor gun control election. Not even an immigration election. Bernie's healthcare reform message is the most cogent and sincere. It's why he's probably going to win the nomination and why he has a real shot to drive turnout and beat Trump. I don't think the regulars in this thread realize the extent to which our healthcare system is hated. How desperate a significant majority of Americans are for systemic reform. It's a defining cause, and it goes hand in hand with the messaging about income inequality that is also powerful and broadly popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: This is a healthcare election. Not a foreign policy nor gun control election. Not even an immigration election. Bernie's healthcare reform message is the most cogent and sincere. It's why he's probably going to win the nomination and why he has a real shot to drive turnout and beat Trump. I don't think the regulars in this thread realize the extent to which our healthcare system is hated. How desperate a significant majority of Americans are for systemic reform. It's a defining cause, and it goes hand in hand with the messaging about income inequality that is also powerful and broadly popular. And you believe that the entrenched powers are going to let that healthcare system hating/ concerned-about-income-inequality demographic decide the election? Hell, they are disenfranchising millions to make sure that doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, LD0506 said: And you believe that the entrenched powers are going to let that healthcare system hating/ concerned-about-income-inequality demographic decide the election? Hell, they are disenfranchising millions to make sure that doesn't happen. Our predecessors said the same thing about Civil Rights. Their predecessors said the same thing about being a group colonies trying to get independence from the premier super power in the world. If human history was dominated by saying "it will never happen, so why bother", human history would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Our predecessors said the same thing about Civil Rights. Their predecessors said the same thing about being a group colonies trying to get independence from the premier super power in the world. If human history was dominated by saying "it will never happen, so why bother", human history would be different. Agree, not what I said at all IMO voting access and voting rights are THE preeminent issue at hand. You fix that and you have the tools to attack the other problems. My concerns are that there is an overt, concerted campaign in every state to suppress voting and deny the vote outright. This to me is one of the most fundamentally unAmerican things happening, and allows these criminal cabals to retain power. None of us can allow ourselves to sit back and just trust that the system will work, there has been far too much evidence in recent years that there is no limit to what some will do to corrupt the vote. Everyone should be checking to make sure they are registered, don't just assume it. Many have already "discovered" that they were purged from voter rolls whether no matter what their recent history or stability, and we saw in '18 that nothing will be done late in the game. They actually said in multiple court findings that "yes, this is wrong but it's too late, too close to the election, blah blah blah"?, ie. Native Americans in the Dakotas, polling place shell games in Kansas, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: By the Intelligence Community? By Trump and his cronies. He is going to purge the government of anyone her percieves as a threat and replace them with his cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 @LD0506 I understand and thanks for clarification. I've never heard of a mountain that didnt require to climb uphill at some point. At the same time, the one thing we can all control is making sure we individually are registered to vote and when we are actually voting. We cant control where each state is in regards to to voter suppression, but I'm convinced if everyone that could vote did vote this orange schmuk will be unemployed this time next year. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/04/behind-2018-united-states-midterm-election-turnout.html Quote The November 2018 election is widely recognized for its high voter turnout. Census Bureau data released today show who is behind the historic 11 percentage point increase from the last midterm election in 2014. Voter turnout went up among all voting age and major racial and ethnic groups. Fifty-three percent of the citizen voting-age population voted in 2018, the highest midterm turnout in four decades, while the 2014 election had the lowest. Among 18- to 29-year-olds, voter turnout went from 20 percent in 2014 to 36 percent in 2018, the largest percentage point increase for any age group — a 79 percent jump. Among 18- to 29-year-olds, voter turnout went from 20 percent in 2014 to 36 percent rcentage point increase for any age ercent jump. 4 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: By Trump and his cronies. He is going to purge the government of anyone her percieves as a threat and replace them with his cronies. Hes not going to finish that purge in less then 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: We cant control where each state is in regards to to voter suppression, but I'm convinced if everyone that could vote did vote this orange schmuk will be unemployed this time next year. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2019/04/behind-2018-united-states-midterm-election-turnout.html Among 18- to 29-year-olds, voter turnout went from 20 percent in 2014 to 36 percent in 2018, the largest percentage point increase for any age group — a 79 percent jump. Bernie owns this group so that's a really good sign if young turnout is high again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 But still, it went from one in five to one in three? Gonna have to do better than that All of us do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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