HTTRDynasty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, Califan007 said: Umm...Ok lol. Weird that a guy who was sabotaged from having any real power or influence under Allen was able to do something so powerful and influential. He did what Shanahan couldn't. Imagine if he was actually allowed to have any say-so in anything... Someone who had the cache/clout from the fans and media that Scot did when he first came into the front office and Dan was still embarrassed after the disastrous 2013 and 2014 seasons? Scot was at his most influential then - before the jealousy and hurt feelings started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, ThomasRoane said: Bruce doesn't get a pass here. The dumbass can't call Cousins by his proper name. (It's not Kurt, IT'S KIRK YOU IDIOT!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: It was after the AFC Championship game, like I said. It was a blowout. The final score was 36-17. If you had most front office people speak after any NFL game, it would quickly become obvious that they all like to drink during the game. ahh, my bad. still, owner can kinda do what they want. GM's, especially for "once great, but now awful franchises", on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Someone who had the cache/clout from the fans and media that Scot did when he first came into the front office and Dan was still embarrassed after the disastrous 2013 and 2014 seasons? Scot was at his most influential then - before the jealousy and hurt feelings started. hey, go back and read my edit on that post lol...I asked a hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 As the poet said, The saddest words... What might have been. Sigh. What might have been. Quite bummed about this. I don't know if the fault was Scott's, Bruce's, Dan's, Jay's or a combo of any or all of the above... just sigh. I had such high hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedsuperstar Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: People in here acting like we fired George Halas or Paul Brown. Get real...You start showing up to work drunk half the time, punching holes in walls and rubbing people the wrong way, you're toast. The end. Show a little backbone. The sun will rise again... I'm with you?? Now, I do believe the FO DID NOT want to throw Scot under the bus. They tried to keep things in house. But in the end, Scot poked the bear and..................18 months of ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If/when next season turns in to disaster I wonder if people will blame BA, or shift the blame to Gruden. I hope Vinny 3.0 is better at his job than the previous two versions when Danny boy hires him in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Califan007 said: 3 hours ago, ThomasRoane said: Bruce doesn't get a pass here. The dumbass can't call Cousins by his proper name. (It's not Kurt, IT'S KIRK YOU IDIOT!!!) 4:01 mark: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Califan007 said: EDIT: just a reminder: the stories at the time said everyone in the front office was on board with Cousins starting, only person that needed convincing was Snyder. So that means Bruce Allen was also on board with Cousins starting. Could Allen have done what Scot is said to have done, and convinced Snyder that Cousins needs to start and the RG3 era possibly come to a close? I remember stories saying the "football people" wanted Cousins to start over Griffin. I wouldn't really classify Allen as a "football person". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Yeah after working for those buffoons Danny and Brucey, wouldn't you be doing the same? Again, getting fired after winning records is unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 In the aftermath of this disaster, I think an interesting thread for ES would be: "What is the single worst day in Redskins history?" This has gotta be up there. Since my consciousness as a fan began in ~2003, I would say the only thing even remotely comparable today would be the passing of Sean Taylor. However, while that was a sad event and made you wonder at the lost talent that we all missed out on, it also made you proud to be a Redskins fan. When Gregg Williams trotted 10 men out onto the field at kickoff the next Sunday, you felt proud. The team went on a late rally and it really felt like Taylor's death kind of brought everybody together and made them put it all on the line. While the aftermath of the McLoughan/Allen power struggle is yet to be seen, it's hard to believe that it's going to result in anything positive. This could be one of the worst single days in Skins history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, SkinInsite said: If/when next season turns in to disaster I wonder if people will blame BA, or shift the blame to Gruden. I hope Vinny 3.0 is better at his job than the previous two versions when Danny boy hires him in 2019. Vinny isn't coming back that's done for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Surprise, surprise. Anonymous sources at the park telling their side of the story that it's all Scotts fault and he's a an awful drunk. Right on time. Obviously as fans of the team you want to believe that's entirely true, because it feels better than the alternative story where the guy still in charge is a total douche. It just seems kind of odd that this has "been a disaster for 18 months" yet not a peep made it out of Redskins Park until it's time to run damage control. That's not very #Redskins but the fumbling and bumbling the past few weeks sure is. We will never know the truth, but most everyone will choose which one they want to believe and roll with it. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearfeather Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 hours ago, ncr2h said: In the aftermath of this disaster, I think an interesting thread for ES would be: "What is the single worst day in Redskins history?" This has gotta be up there. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, ncr2h said: In the aftermath of this disaster, I think an interesting thread for ES would be: "What is the single worst day in Redskins history?" This has gotta be up there. Since my consciousness as a fan began in ~2003, I would say the only thing even remotely comparable today would be the passing of Sean Taylor. However, while that was a sad event and made you wonder at the lost talent that we all missed out on, it also made you proud to be a Redskins fan. When Gregg Williams trotted 10 men out onto the field at kickoff the next Sunday, you felt proud. The team went on a late rally and it really felt like Taylor's death kind of brought everybody together and made them put it all on the line. While the aftermath of the McLoughan/Allen power struggle is yet to be seen, it's hard to believe that it's going to result in anything positive. This could be one of the worst single days in Skins history. This is not even close to one of the single worse days in Redskins history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Love The Skins Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, ncr2h said: In the aftermath of this disaster, I think an interesting thread for ES would be: "What is the single worst day in Redskins history?" This has gotta be up there. Since my consciousness as a fan began in ~2003, I would say the only thing even remotely comparable today would be the passing of Sean Taylor. However, while that was a sad event and made you wonder at the lost talent that we all missed out on, it also made you proud to be a Redskins fan. When Gregg Williams trotted 10 men out onto the field at kickoff the next Sunday, you felt proud. The team went on a late rally and it really felt like Taylor's death kind of brought everybody together and made them put it all on the line. While the aftermath of the McLoughan/Allen power struggle is yet to be seen, it's hard to believe that it's going to result in anything positive. This could be one of the worst single days in Skins history. Sean Taylor's death was the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, I Love The Skins said: Sean Taylor's death was the worst. Nope. Marcus Allen killing us in the Super Bowl was the worst. Regardless of the drama. It's all about winning the the ultimate game. And in that game we got worked like a rib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Comparing today to the passing of Sean Taylor is insulting to his memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhmet187 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Fans can be exhausting sometimes. This isn't that bad of a moment. Some fans are just overreacting to losing Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: I remember stories saying the "football people" wanted Cousins to start over Griffin. I wouldn't really classify Allen as a "football person". It was specifically said that Snyder was the only one not on board/only obstacle...if it were also Allen trust me, the media would have said that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Nope. Marcus Allen killing us in the Super Bowl was the worst. Regardless of the drama. It's all about winning the the ultimate game. And in that game we got worked like a rib. We were in a Superbowl. That means something. The moves today make it seem like we won't be in a Superbowl for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: Nope. Marcus Allen killing us in the Super Bowl was the worst. Regardless of the drama. It's all about winning the the ultimate game. And in that game we got worked like a rib. Nothing is worse than someone losing their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsPassion4Life Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I have two questions... 1) The 49ers and Seahawks fired him for drinking...where was the outrage? 2) If this was about jealousy and a power struggle; why didn't they fire him after the season? This organization is lousy at PR...that's my biggest criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Chris Russell @Russellmania621 A great write-up w/ lots of detail from @bmcnally14 on Scot McCloughan's firing: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/03/09/redskins-fire-gm-scot-mccloughan/ … #Redskins #NFL This coming from Russell...I seriously have no clue what the **** to think anymore lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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