Mr. Sinister Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Maybe Riggo is referring to the Papelbon deal. In a fair world, maybe things would be different. But they needed help in the pen desperately. And it all worked out, for a game at least. Sometimes you just have to grit your teeth and recognize that its more of team issue than something tbats wrong with you, and they need your help in other areas. But I think he let that get to him, and it ruined his season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 We've been saying we wanted some more contact hitters, we acquired two guys who make a lot of contact Looking at the change in projected starters, this is nothing short of astounding: 2015: Ian Desmond and Michael A. Taylor combined*: Plate appearances - 1,152 Strikeouts - 345 Daniel Murphy and Ben Revere combined^: Plate appearances - 1,172 Strikeouts - 102 *Desmond 641 PA, 187 Ks Taylor 511 PA, 158 Ks ^Revere 634 PA, 64 Ks Murphy 538 PA, 38 Ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 You think of how many more games could have been won with one or two timely hits and you cant help but be giddy looking at those numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornaSkinsFan83 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Storen needs a sports psychologist more than a pitching coach This. I keep telling Jays fans that Storen is the quintessential example of the numbers not telling the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Storen will rack up saves in April-June. Then come crunch time he'll melt down. Imagine Storen trying to close a game in Yankee Stadium, Fenway, or Camden Yards in late August. That has meltdown written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Storen will rack up saves in April-June. Then come crunch time he'll melt down. Imagine Storen trying to close a game in Yankee Stadium, Fenway, or Camden Yards in late August. That has meltdown written all over it. The guy couldnt even handle the big gane pressure at his home field, let alone any of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The guy couldnt even handle the big gane pressure at his home field, let alone any of those. Yeah actually on second thought he was worse in big home games then road ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I absolutely love the huge reduction in strikeouts, makes me giddy. K's on offense are free outs for your opponent. Why restrict your own team to six innings of offense instead of eight or nine? It's a self-imposed handicap. Also FWIW, their careers at Nats Park: Murphy: 214 AB's, .294/.330/.421 Revere: 69 AB's, .290/.310/.377 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 he goes from the NL east where the crowds have 0 impact on games to 3 stadiums where he will get killed on by the crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Lucky for him he has a team that can pile on runs. Unlucky for him the Jays pitching blows and he'll have to close a bunch of 8-6 or 10-7 ballgames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I absolutely love the huge reduction in strikeouts, makes me giddy. K's on offense are free outs for your opponent. Why restrict your own team to six innings of offense instead of eight or nine? It's a self-imposed handicap. Also FWIW, their careers at Nats Park: Murphy: 214 AB's, .294/.330/.421 Revere: 69 AB's, .290/.310/.377 Yep and that's how you win in the playoffs: with contact guys that don't give outs away. The 2012 and 2014 teams had more power and "on paper" looked better/had good numbers but they were incredibly streaky and had LOTS of ABs and innings given away due to strikeouts and quick lackluster approaches. October tends to sap power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasm Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/nats-rizzo-wont-rule-out-trade-expects-to-keep-papelbon/ar-CCk6o7?li=BBnba9I&ocid=LENDHP Rizzo has been knocking it out of the park lately, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Still can't stand the ****er though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I was a bit shocked by this... A friend and fellow Nats fan texted: "Of 25 Nats on the 2014 playoff roster only 10 still remain." I didn't think there was that much turnover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/nats-rizzo-wont-rule-out-trade-expects-to-keep-papelbon/ar-CCk6o7?li=BBnba9I&ocid=LENDHP Rizzo has been knocking it out of the park lately, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Still can't stand the ****er though. that first home game he enters is going to be brutal/glorious the fans are going to give him the treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Maybe a team crushed by injury will trade for him in spring training. Wed still be in big need of a closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 10, 2016 Author Share Posted January 10, 2016 Maybe Riggo is referring to the Papelbon deal. And Soriano. I don't think he melts down like he did if we don't get Pap. It's pure hypothetical, but I liked Storen, and he was taken from the closer role twice. In my opinion, his playoff failures were more bad luck than anything else. But it's all moot now anyway, isn't it? Wish him luck in Toronto, looking forward to watchin Ben Revere here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 that first home game he enters is going to be brutal/glorious the fans are going to give him the treatment Meh, once he gets that first 1 2 3 9th inning people will start to forget. He's gotta play well though. He was not that effective last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Chelsea Janes @chelsea_janes 33s34 seconds ago Chelsea Janes Retweeted MLB Communications Official: Nats pitchers and catchers report Feb. 20. Everybody's first workout Feb. 25. Let the countdown begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Meh, once he gets that first 1 2 3 9th inning people will start to forget. He's gotta play well though. He was not that effective last year. I dunno With a guy like that I think you're just counting down the days until the next blowup. Thats just who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 James WagnerVerified account@JamesWagnerWPBen Revere on playing with Bryce Harper: "I'm just trying to just get you a lot of RBIs so you can be back-to-back MVPs." he knows his role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 Buster Olney ranked the Nats rotation 8th, behind the Mets, Cubs, Cards, Dodgers, Giants, Pirates, and Indians. Not in that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Buster Olney ranked the Nats rotation 8th, behind the Mets, Cubs, Cards, Dodgers, Giants, Pirates, and Indians. Not in that order. seems fair. You know what Scherzer will bring, you're hopeful about Stras, beyond that, lots of questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 seems fair. You know what Scherzer will bring, you're hopeful about Stras, beyond that, lots of questions I'm glad no one is predicting **** for us. I want to be ignored and underrated all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 With Scherzer and Stras, our 1-2 is as good as anyone's. I'm also high on Joe Ross and think he'll be a solid 3rd. I think Gio might be a declining pitcher though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 I honestly think they vastly overrated both the Giants and Dodgers staffs, probably the Cardinals too. I also believe there will be some regression for the Mets staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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