AlldaySkins Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Arguably one of the best OL coaches in the game right now. And now we have him! Granted he's probably making more $$ than any other OL coach, but we all know Snyder has the dough. Kudos to the front office & Gruden for making this happen. Now let's try to reel in Fangio, Schwartz or Quinn for DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsforlife101 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 this is a good move I think Gruden's going to try to transition to more of a power run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Arguably one of the best OL coaches in the game right now. And now we have him! Granted he's probably making more $$ than any other OL coach, but we all know Snyder has the dough. Kudos to the front office & Gruden for making this happen. Now let's try to reel in Fangio, Schwartz or Quinn for DC. Do people understand Quinn is about to be a HC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Do people understand Quinn is about to be a HC? I know right? and ****, even if he doesn't get a HC gig... why the heck would he want to leave the Seahawk Defense for the freaking Redskins Defense??? I mean, unless he wants to Kirk Cousin his chances at a HC gig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Wu Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I hope so. It's a smoke and mirrors scheme, doesn't give you any benefits of running the ball. Opposing defenses don't get tired, you don't control the ball, and you can't grind out tough yards in the four minute offense or at the goal line.But doesn't it get yards and points? It looked pretty good when it was working here.Gibbs had that grind running game and all it really amounted to was Portis getting pounded into dust each week. Meanwhile Alfred, someone Im sure nobody dislikes but we can probably admit isn't as physically talented as Portis, goes ahead and breaks Clintons season record in his 1st year. Granted Gibbs/Portis never had the defense-freezing threat of rookie RG3 but even with that, I became a believer of the ZBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINSFAN87 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Another quality hire for the redskins this offseason, now just hire a quality DC and I can finally say we have laid a nice foundation towards a championship team in the future. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 But doesn't it get yards and points? It looked pretty good when it was working here. Gibbs had that grind running game and all it really amounted to was Portis getting pounded into dust each week. Meanwhile Alfred, someone Im sure nobody dislikes but we can probably admit isn't as physically talented as Portis, goes ahead and breaks Clintons season record in his 1st year. Granted Gibbs/Portis never had the defense-freezing threat of rookie RG3 but even with that, I became a believer of the ZBS. Id rather throw the ball to get yards and points and run the ball to punch my opponent in the mouth But I'm old school. The zone scheme puts up big numbers but there's a reason why so few offenses in the NFL really buy in, and why it never helped us win anything. Houston had a few monster years but they were bounced from the playoffs just like we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 From what I read Callahan can do both power and zone blocking schemes. I dont think this necessarily means the end of zone blocking here, it might be more likely it disappears because Gruden just doesnt like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Wu Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Id rather throw the ball to get yards and points and run the ball to punch my opponent in the mouth But I'm old school. The zone scheme puts up big numbers but there's a reason why so few offenses in the NFL really buy in, and why it never helped us win anything. Houston had a few monster years but they were bounced from the playoffs just like we were. The ZBS has proven consistent when it works and if you can get yards and points without relying entirely on an elite QB, it makes things that much easier. I dont know why other teams haven't bought in but I suspect that like most things, it just isn't as easy to pull off as it sounds, which is why Shanahan is respected and regarded as a savant in that area. As to never winning us anything, we were well on the way until RG3s leg crumbled so I cant put that down as some sort of inherent limitation of the scheme. Regardless of schemes though, if this new guy can actually get the line to just block competently then I'll appreciate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverwolf Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hopefully get our offense going in the right direction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Wop Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Arguably one of the best OL coaches in the game right now. And now we have him! Granted he's probably making more $$ than any other OL coach, but we all know Snyder has the dough. Kudos to the front office & Gruden for making this happen. Now let's try to reel in Fangio, Schwartz or Quinn for DC. This type of hire (with premium $'s) to help flush away any idea that Snyder or the FO is limiting Jay's ability (through $'s) to bring together a quality staff with the thought that he's probably going to fire Jay after the 2015 season (and perhaps his entire staff). The team has lost to much recently to walk in with this mentality and virtually give up on next season before anything has happened. Instead we should want to see improvement across the board and we should be willing to pay for improvement especially on the coaching staff front. Hopefully hiring Callahan helps them understand they need to nail the DC hire and have a well experienced staff that Jay can depend on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hopefully he can develop Long and Moses. Real good hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70th Week Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Nobody can turn water into wine. Well,there was this one Guy....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well,there was this one Guy....... Jesus Christ! Will you pipe down already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I also think the notion that the Redskins haven't been able to attract coaches is largely a fiction. I mean look at who we have attracted... they're almost all HOFers or people highly thought of. The only exception being Zorn.we've interviewed the top DCs. Lots of them even. Now we hire a great OL coach, after getting a great GM. I think the fan made up "nobody wants to coach us " BS can end. We have an owner who publicly backed off and a pres who's respected. Now we add a top GM and Oline coach. Let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlldaySkins Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Do people understand Quinn is about to be a HC? Says who? A few teams are interested in interviewing him, but there are no guarantees. I'm just having wishful thinking that McCloughin can talk him into turning around the Redskins like they did the Seahawks. When it comes to $$ Snyder can outbid the Seahawks. Also if Gruden does a horrible job next season, Quinn would probably be 1st in line to replace him. I know it's a very, very slim chance of getting Quinn...was just merely throwing his name out here. Good grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlldaySkins Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I know right? and ****, even if he doesn't get a HC gig... why the heck would he want to leave the Seahawk Defense for the freaking Redskins Defense??? I mean, unless he wants to Kirk Cousin his chances at a HC gig... Well say people pass on him for a HC gig and just believe he had a lot of talent on his defense. Also let's just throw the notion out there that Snyder has the money to make Quinn the highest paid DC in the league. He may want to prove to everybody that he's an awesome DC by rebuilding one of the worst defenses in the league the past 5 years. By doing so could give him huge credentials to be a HC. Make no mistake I know Fangio is probably the best we will be able to get. It would just be nice if we could get Quinn. Schwartz too (even though I can't stand him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penasquito Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Just to shed a little light on the subject, it was probably Jones who pissed off Callahan. Before the 2013 season, the Cowboys gave Callahan play calling duties. I think that lasted about 10 games, then Garrett was calling the plays again. When the 2013 season ended, Callahan asked the Cowboys for permission to interview for other OL/OC jobs. The Cowboys denied this permission. He could have interviewed for head coaching gigs, but I don' remember if he did or not. The Cowboys brought in Linehan, made the play caller (and "passing game coordinator", whatever that is) and kept Callahan on officially as the running game coordinator and OC. This year, his contract was actually over, the Cowboys had 3 days of exclusivity, when no one else could interview him, but I don't think there were any serious discussions about him staying with the Cowboys. I have to tip my hat to Callahan for being a pro and doing his job well after his employer treated him that way. Whatever you think of Callahan as a head coach or an offensive coordinator, by all accounts he's a heck of an OL coach. And you know he'll be motivated to take on the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laron Burgundy Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 If Callahan sets gruden straight on the importance of running the ball, I'll be tickled pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 The ZBS has proven consistent when it works and if you can get yards and points without relying entirely on an elite QB, it makes things that much easier. I dont know why other teams haven't bought in but I suspect that like most things, it just isn't as easy to pull off as it sounds, which is why Shanahan is respected and regarded as a savant in that area. As to never winning us anything, we were well on the way until RG3s leg crumbled so I cant put that down as some sort of inherent limitation of the scheme. Regardless of schemes though, if this new guy can actually get the line to just block competently then I'll appreciate him. There is nothing Shanny does that a college assistant couldn't pick up in one weekend of game film The commitment to small fast olinemen presents a whole new set of challenges that nfl coaches are not interested in The zbs is an ineffective tired scheme whose days are past. Some teams like Baltimore keep a few plays in their arsenal but do not make a commitment to it. Because they are interested in winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 When is he NOT smiling? You are so right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'm cautiously optimistic. That's saying a lot these days! My biggest hope is that he, along with Scot and Jay, does a good job of scrutininzing our current OL and jettisoning the dead wood. I don't want to see Tyler Polumbus in a Skins uniform next season, please!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Somewhere Albert Morris is smiling. Alfred is too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Free has been solid except for a stretch after his contract extension in 2011. And he's a FA this year - I'd be fine with Free at RT. For a bit, he was one of the better LT's in the league after Flozell Adams left. Trent / Long / Lichtensteiger / Leribeus / Free could be a solid starting line. Or replace Leribeus with Scherff if we can snag him in the draft. I want Upati playing on out O-line next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 When it comes to $$ Snyder can outbid the Seahawks. They're all billionaires. Any motivated owner can outbid any other owner, if they're so inclined. But if they're both inclined, then no, Snyder cannot outbid Paul Allen. His net worth DWARFS snyder. It's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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