Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just feel like Murphy has a more sustainable style and approach, especially for the post season. Very consistent. Desmond is great when hes hot, but when hes not hes another Espinosa. And he will always have his struggles in the field. Escobar/Murphy > Desmond/Escobar up the middle, imo. Desmond and Murphy are probably a wash defensively. What intrigues me about Murphy is his away splits the last two seasons. He doesn't feel comfortable hitting in Shea. But away . . . 2014: .805 OPS (vs .652 at home) 2013: .786 OPS (vs .694 at home) Particularly at Nats Park, he has hit well. .835 OPS for his career. So yea, maybe that makes sense. And if Rizzo talks the Mets in to trading a prospect too, well, that's just icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Murphy's not a bad player at all. He's basically the anti Desi. Not as much power, but more reliable getting on base and doesn't K nearly as much. If we got Murphy AND prospect(s) for Desi I'd probably pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 RT @JonHeymanCBS max scherzer talking seriously to nats & at least 1 other. deal expected to be 7 years & come soon. http://t.co/SuKraexqKR If we get Max Scherzer that is BIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Now that is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 RT @Ken_Rosenthal Source: Max Scherzer is close to signing a seven-year deal. Between #Nationals and one other club. First reported: @JonHeymanCBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Would this move be a prelude to trading Jordan Zimmermann, Fister, Gio, or Roark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Prob Zimmermann per reddit I like Zim but he has never been committed to this team long term. If that's the case he can be dealt. I would like to lock up someone like Scherzer long term. he is elite. I don't care if my JZ bobblehead is coming this week. I dont' care if the value drops. It's all about the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Forget trading Zimmermann. Scherzer Strasburg Zimmermann Fister Roark/Gio Basically roll with starters winning 7 of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Prob Zimmermann per reddit I like Zim but he has never been committed to this team long term. If that's the case he can be dealt. I would like to lock up someone like Scherzer long term. he is elite. I don't care if my JZ bobblehead is coming this week. I dont' care if the value drops. It's all about the team. If they sign Scherzer to a 7 year deal, it's pretty obvious that it wasn't the money with Zimmermann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 zimmermann and desmond are gone in the next couple of weeks. We are going to get a lot of prospects in return for those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 RT @jeffmooreBP If Nats sign Scherzer, I hope they hold onto Zim & go for it. Package back for Zim would have to be > comp pick + 1 year of having both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 zimmermann and desmond are gone in the next couple of weeks. We are going to get a lot of prospects in return for those 2. Yeah I'm with you. And Rizzo will have extended our window from 2 years to like 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 zimmermann and desmond are gone in the next couple of weeks. We are going to get a lot of prospects in return for those 2. The problem with trading Desmond is that you have to have a replacement. And Desmond, even with his regression, is still a capable bat. In wanting to trade for a MLB ready player, Rizzo will have to reduce the quality/quantity of the prospects he would get in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 We had a good team last season but I'm all for thinking about the future. We have good expendable players who can be dealt for the future. Think about making this team a dynasty I'd have no problem dealing for prospects RT @jonmorosi #Nats have been talking with "multiple" teams on Jordan Zimmermann trade possibilities over past few weeks, sources say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The problem with trading Desmond is that you have to have a replacement. And Desmond, even with his regression, is still a capable bat. In wanting to trade for a MLB ready player, Rizzo will have to reduce the quality/quantity of the prospects he would get in return. I agree that we need someone who is ready but we do have danny at SS at worse case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I don't like giving 7 year deal to players already over 30. Scherzer is special though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I agree that we need someone who is ready but we do have danny at SS at worse case scenario. Given that Danny is STILL switch hitting, he cannot be relied on. If 2011 or 2012 Danny were here, okay fine. But he's not. He's gone. I have more faith in Dan Uggla being fixed than Danny Espinosa. I don't like giving 7 year deal to players already over 30. Scherzer is special though. I don't either. I'm even more concerned about his velocity dropping last year. The way I see it, for the next two years, Scherzer will be better than JZ. Then age will set in and for the 3+ years after that, Zimmermann will be the better pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Strasburg even on the trade block and Nats are listening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 37s38 seconds agoYes, #Nats are willing to trade Stephen Strasburg if they don't get acceptable offer for Zimmermann (in event they land Scherzer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I don't either. I'm even more concerned about his velocity dropping last year. The way I see it, for the next two years, Scherzer will be better than JZ. Then age will set in and for the 3+ years after that, Zimmermann will be the better pitcher. I agree. It all boils down to how Scherzer deals with the inevitable drop in arm strength. Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 37s38 seconds ago Yes, #Nats are willing to trade Stephen Strasburg if they don't get acceptable offer for Zimmermann (in event they land Scherzer). da **** is goings on at Nats park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 37s38 seconds ago Yes, #Nats are willing to trade Stephen Strasburg if they don't get acceptable offer for Zimmermann (in event they land Scherzer). What the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What in the eff... I say sign Scherzer, keep JZ, and go all in to win a ring in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 What in the eff... I say sign Scherzer, keep JZ, and go all in to win a ring in 2015 As we saw last year, you still have to hit the baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 As we saw last year, you still have to hit the baseball. I promise you if we trade Stras we're getting someone who can hit the damn ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 RT @Ken_Rosenthal Growing confidence among #Nationals officials that they will land Scherzer. Officials from #Yankees, #RedSox, #Astros all deny involvement. I declare Scherzer a Nat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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