KDawg Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Ideally we find a way to get Cofield to DE... I know, going on 3 years now. If it's a one gap system, hard to argue against an Okie with Barry next to Ryan, Baker in the middle, and Hatcher over with Rak. That's a lot of big boys and a lot of potential outside... finally. I'd like to see Cofield and Baker and Hatcher move around to both ends and Nose. Line them up all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I can't believe I'm going to say this. No Doughty at Safety... and I'm asking.. is 10 Defensive backs between corners and safeties really necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 I can't believe I'm going to say this. No Doughty at Safety... and I'm asking.. is 10 Defensive backs between corners and safeties really necessary? Well, don't just think of them as DBs either. Think of them as special teams help. Rambo, to make the team, will have to be able to contribute on special teams. He'll have to give 100% on everything he does. Looking at my personal depth chart above, these guys would be specs guys: Forbath, Malone, Sundberg - specialty positions. Crawford Thomas Rambo Gumbs Hayward Jordan Sharpton Jenkins Thompson Paulsen Paul Roberts Could be: Amerson Moss Biggers Geathers (situationally) D. Jax (returns only - likely won't play this role on a regular basis) Obviously I'm not including field goal team where the OL will be a big part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 TEAM (53) DEFENSE (25) SECONDARY (10) Cornerback (5): 39 David Amerson 20 Richard Crawford 23 DeAngelo Hall 22 Tracy Porter 38 Chase Minnifield Free Safety (2) 25R Ryan Clark 24 Bacarri Rambo Strong Safety (3): 31 Brandon Meriweather 41 Phillip Thomas 48 Jose Gumbs DEFENSIVE LINE (6): Defensive End (5): 72 Stephen Bowen 97 Jason Hatcher 99 Jarvis Jenkins 92 Chris Baker 94 Clifton Geathers Nose Tackle (1): 96 Barry Cofield LINEBACKERS (9): Inside Linebacker (5): 53 Darryl Sharpton 55 Adam Hayward 54 Akeem Jordan 56 Perry Riley 52 Keenan Robinson Outside Linebacker (4): 98 Brian Orakpo 91 Ryan Kerrigan 51 Brandon Jenkins 50 Rob Jackson OFFENSE (25) Guard/Center (2): 78 Kory Lichtensteiger 00 Mike McGlynn Guard (4): 73 Adam Gettis 79 Maurice Hurt 77 Shawn Lauvao 67 Josh LeRibeus Tackle (3): 71 Trent Williams 74 Tyler Polumbus 68 Tom Compton Fullback (1): 36 Darrel Young Running Back (3): 29 Roy Helu Jr 46 Alfred Morris 25W Chris Thompson Quarterback (3): 10 Robert Griffin III 8 Kirk Cousins Colt McCoy Wide Receiver (6): 88 Pierre Garcon 85 Leonard Hankerson 89 Santana Moss 12 Andre Roberts 15 Aldrick Robinson 11 Desean Jackson Tight End (3): 84 Niles Paul 82 Logan Paulsen 86 Jordan Reed SPECIAL TEAMS (3): Kicker (1): 2 Kai Forbath Punter (1): 3 Robert Malone Long Snapper (1): 57 Nick Sundberg So I took the OP and whittled down the players that I think have a legit shot at making the roster. Right now that gets me to the full 53. Of course, guys like McGlynn or Polumbus could go just as easily as Geathers, Bown or any of the ILBs we signed along with Biggers/Minnifield/Gumbs in the secondary. But that just shows we don't have a ton of open roster spots. I have us down for all 3 QBs ... if we trade cousins we might draft a guy but put him on the PS ... or we cut McCoy ... just can't see us carrying 3 QBs. But either way, we have the potential to add a lot of picks by trading back ... but we just don't have a "ton" of space for them. Yes, we can make room and may the best player make the team ... but looking at this snapshot makes me lean towards just drafting at the position we hold picks and getting the best value v. accumulating a bunch of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share Posted April 10, 2014 Akeem Davis added to safety list as 00 due to official press release from team. But that just shows we don't have a ton of open roster spots. I have us down for all 3 QBs ... if we trade cousins we might draft a guy but put him on the PS ... or we cut McCoy ... just can't see us carrying 3 QBs. But either way, we have the potential to add a lot of picks by trading back ... but we just don't have a "ton" of space for them. Yes, we can make room and may the best player make the team ... but looking at this snapshot makes me lean towards just drafting at the position we hold picks and getting the best value v. accumulating a bunch of picks. That's the beauty of BPA though. We can look at our board and see who's there. If we REALLY like a lower ranked player and have an option for a short fall back where we think we can acquire the valued player and add picks, it's still an option. If we like the talent available at our choice, then we just pull the trigger. BPA is beautiful. And that BPA can replace many of the players on our roster this season, next season, and future seasons. When you draft for need, you may get lucky and get the BPA overall, but you're shoehorning yourself into a forced draft choice. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I can't believe JMS just wrote we shouldn't try and get more picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd like to see Cofield and Baker and Hatcher move around to both ends and Nose. Line them up all over the place. Right? I mean... who does that besides the Ravens, Seahawks, and 49ers? I suspect it might work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share Posted April 11, 2014 Right? I mean... who does that besides the Ravens, Seahawks, and 49ers? I suspect it might work... Not only that, it gives the OL a different guy with a different skillset and different style to go up against. OL tends to get more effective once they figure out in real time what a guy is capable of. Sure, they pick up a lot in film study, but actually seeing the speed takes a few plays sometimes. Now, by moving guys around, you increase the amount of film study necessary for the OL as well as give them many looks in game which keeps them on their toes. I don't see a reason not to move the guys around. In fact, with a 1-gap system (even if you 2-gap from time to time), ideally you'd want guys who can play any position on the DL in an odd front. Because then even your subs have to be accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Very nice job with this thread KDawg it is much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Thanks for the thread Dawg. Looking over the roster, it still pains me to say that our secondary needs a lot of work. I feel like "we need to upgrade the defensive secondary" has become the new "we need a franchise quarterback". We can trot out a decent group to start with, but if we have an injury (or we seem to like suspensions), then look out. Hell, I think CB looks thinner than safety. Praying for good health there. I think you're right about Hank sticking at WR with what we currently have. Aldrick is the first man out I think. And not to derail into Hank oblivion, but how is his rehab going? How is Crawford's rehab going? Just haven't seen it anywhere. Pulling hard for both guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 FS 25 Clark SS 31 Meriweather ILB 56 Riley ILB 55 Adam Hayward OLB 98 Orakpo RDE 97 Hatcher NT 96 Cofield LDE 92 Baker OLB 91 KerriganCB 23 Hall NB 22 Porter CB 39 Amerson FS-(? Meriweather/ Gumbs/Rambo/T. Robinson/Hall/Thomas) SS-(Gumbs/T. Robinson/Thomas) ILB-(Sharpton, A. Jordan, Robinson, Compton) OLB-(Rob Jackson, Brandon Jenkins) DL-(Stephen Bowen, Jarvis Jenkins, Clifton Geathers) CB-(Biggers, Crawford) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Akeem Davis added to safety list as 00 due to official press release from team. That's the beauty of BPA though. We can look at our board and see who's there. If we REALLY like a lower ranked player and have an option for a short fall back where we think we can acquire the valued player and add picks, it's still an option. If we like the talent available at our choice, then we just pull the trigger. BPA is beautiful. And that BPA can replace many of the players on our roster this season, next season, and future seasons. When you draft for need, you may get lucky and get the BPA overall, but you're shoehorning yourself into a forced draft choice. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Totally agreed with your depth chart (though if Worthington makes the squad I could see him taking Golston's role on teams) and totally agree with this. One thing I could see is trading back and acquiring picks for next year. By then we'll have a better idea of where we stand and could package picks to move up (something like what I think San Fran will do this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattermind Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 This needs to be stickied, especially with draft ahead! Excellent stuff. Good work, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted May 7, 2014 Author Share Posted May 7, 2014 Tanard Jackson removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Thread is up to date. Tanard Jackson added. Draft picks added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Current UDFA added per http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014-nfl-undrafted-free-agents/2 I'll try to keep this bad boy up to date as the days go by. Don't get mad if I'm not on roster moves immediately haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek1973 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Doesn't look all that strong when grouped together huh? Thanks Coach. I know your times valuable. Appreciated. Hail. Man your negativity throughout the site is very refreshing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Post draft: FS 25 Clark SS 31 Meriweather ILB 56 Riley ILB 55 Adam Hayward OLB 98 Orakpo RDE 97 Hatcher NT 96 Cofield LDE 92 Baker OLB 91 KerriganCB 23 Hall NB 22 Porter CB 39 Amerson FS-(? Meriweather/ Gumbs/Rambo/T. Robinson/Hall/Thomas)SS-(Gumbs/T. Robinson/Thomas)ILB-(Sharpton, A. Jordan, Robinson, Compton)OLB- TRENT MURPHY (Rob Jackson, Brandon Jenkins)DL-(Stephen Bowen, Jarvis Jenkins, Clifton Geathers)CB- BASHAUD BREELAND (Biggers, Crawford) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recent Vintage Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Here's my guess, totally unscientific, and of course totally fluid based on camp/preseason. Offense: QB - 2RGIII Kirk Cousins (could be traded if there's a TC injury or something) RB - 3Alfred Morris Roy Helu Lache Seastrunk FB - 1 Darrel Young WR - 6 Pierre Garcon DeSean Jackson Andre Roberts Aldrick Robinson Ryan Grant Leonard Hankerson TE - 4 Jordan Reed Logan Paulsen Ted Bolser Niles Paul OL - 9 Trent Williams Shawn Lavauo Kory Lichtensteiger Adam Gettis Morgan Moses Hurt (G/T) Polumbus (T) Leribeus (G/C) Spencer Long (G/C) Defense: DL - 6 BowenCofield Hatcher Baker Nield Jenkins (outside chance for Geathers) ILB - 5 Riley Robinson Darryl Sharpton Adam Hayward Akeem Jordan OLB - 4 Orakpo Kerrigan Murphy Jenkins CB - 5 HallAmerson Porter Breeland Crawford S - 5Clark Meriweather Thomas Rambo T. Jackson ST - 3 K - Forbath P - ???? LS - Nick Sundberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternNCbywayofNOVA Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Didn't we cut Brandon Moore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Defense: DL - 6 Bowen Cofield Hatcher Baker Nield Who is number 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 Added three more UDFA. Re-organized the roster into more appropriate position groupings. Basically consolidated. Didn't we cut Brandon Moore? Hadn't seen that. That is why this thread is somewhat interactive. I'll do the best I can with it. Help is always appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetAlfred Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 WHATEVER COLOR THIS ACTUALLY IS = UNDRAFTED FA LOL, maroon, scarlet, crimson, burgundy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted May 11, 2014 Author Share Posted May 11, 2014 LOL, maroon, scarlet, crimson, burgundy? The text thing calls it fire brick. I refuse, on principle, to call it fire brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Didn't we cut Brandon Moore? image.jpg he was suspended, I'm not sure you're allowed to cut a suspended player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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