DCchillin89 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Being sucessful in college is a lot easier than pro football. Given the cupcake schedule at the beginning of the season, the home to away game ratio, and the recruiting advantage Alabama has, a toddler could coach them to at least a .500 record. This is a dumb statement. He came within a miracle play of playing for a third straight NATIONAL TITLE. IN THE SEC. they get recruits too, you know? He is experiencing unprecedented dominance. And if college football is so much easier than the NFL, then how do you explain the 3 most successful coaches in the NFC: harbaugh, kelly and carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Very sad to say this, but it doesn't matter. Until we get a new owner, we will not be a good franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Robert Griffin's relationship with Dan Snyder is a problem. Read the press clippings from RG3 and Shanahan this year closely. Why don't you cut to the chase and present the evidence you think is out there, since you're the one making the assertion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 What Shanahan, Allen, and Snyder need to do is find who keeps leaking information to the press. It seems that regardless of coach or players, someone is a constant leak into the inner workings of the Redskins. This person has single-handedly undermined everything good and bad at Redskins park. This person(s) need to be fired and possibly sued. How about we just stop the shenanigans and become a functioning, professionally run franchise? And then the media has nothing to report. The leaks are symptomatic of a dysfunctional institution, not an individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankRizzo Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 What Shanahan, Allen, and Snyder need to do is find who keeps leaking information to the press. It seems that regardless of coach or players, someone is a constant leak into the inner workings of the Redskins. This person has single-handedly undermined everything good and bad at Redskins park. This person(s) need to be fired and possibly sued. Shanahan need not look beyond his nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 GM - Scot McCloughan HC - Darrell Bevell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDragon38 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 This is a dumb statement. He came within a miracle play of playing for a third straight NATIONAL TITLE. IN THE SEC. they get recruits too, you know? He is experiencing unprecedented dominance. And if college football is so much easier than the NFL, then how do you explain the 3 most successful coaches in the NFC: harbaugh, kelly and carroll Harbaugh, Carroll and Kelly come from the Pac 12....where there isn't a cup cake schedule and the home/away ratio is the same. They play as close to an NFL schedule as possible in college. Let's look at the last SEC coaches that came to the NFL Saban: Failed in Miami Petrino: Stabbed Atlanta in the back Spurrier: Do I even need to explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 These people saying we're not gonna be able to get a top coach are either speaking in anger/frustration, or don't know what they're talking about. There are 32 coaching jobs in the NFL- 5 or so which will be available this year. Of those 5, 2-3 will be for historically bad franchises in 2nd tier markets, without most of the major weapons and cash this one has. Anyone the Skins offer, will accept. The only time we have been rebuffed was by Steve spagnuolo, because he had other opportunities, and believe it or not, we were in worse shape then than we are now. We have cash to spend and a qb in place, in a top market. We can get whoever we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Why don't you cut to the chase and present the evidence you think is out there, since you're the one making the assertion. Graziano article for starters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Graziano article for starters.. I'll ask again--where's the proof? There's nothing in that article that proves anything. In fact, a lot of it just doesn't make sense. The only thing noteworthy about Graziano's article was that it represented shots being fired from Shanahan's camp on his way out, making it an ugly separation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Harbaugh, Carroll and Kelly come from the Pac 12....where there isn't a cup cake schedule and the home/away ratio is the same. They play as close to an NFL schedule as possible in college. /argument. If you are going to argue that the PAC 12 is closer to the NFL than the SEC, I can't have a debate with you, for you don't know college football BTW, Petrino was louisville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 These people saying we're not gonna be able to get a top coach are either speaking in anger/frustration, or don't know what they're talking about. There are 32 coaching jobs in the NFL- 5 or so which will be available this year. Of those 5, 2-3 will be for historically bad franchises in 2nd tier markets, without most of the major weapons and cash this one has. Anyone the Skins offer, will accept. The only time we have been rebuffed was by Steve spagnuolo, because he had other opportunities, and believe it or not, we were in worse shape then than we are now. We have cash to spend and a qb in place, in a top market. We can get whoever we want. This is filled with a lot of truth, whether people like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I hope the story of the issue between Snyder and Shanahan is simply rumor-mongering. Quite frankly, top quality coaches aren't going to want to work in an organization that is going to set them up to fail. Snyder sabotaged Norv Turner with the QB; he fired Schottenheimer after one year; he hamstrung Spurrier and Zorn with Vinny Cerrato and forced a OC change on Zorn. The only coach he left alone was Gibbs but player decisions by Cerrato screwed him up as well. The Shanahan regime was supposed to right the ship and finally put in place an organization that at least had the possibility of succeeding. While Shanahan had his weaknesses the days of star players having a separate protected relationship with the owner were over. If that's NOT true then it doesn't matter who is the coach. The organization will always suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Jim Fassel. 16-6 over four years in the United Football League from 2009-12. Will be 65 next year. Get 'er done Danny!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SprintBomb Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 We throw out all these coaches names but really....would they want to be here?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Not even Joe Gibbs could fix this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Benskins26 "we can get whomever we want". The top candidates will go for the best opportunity not just any opportunity. Was Zorn really the best candidate at the time? Don't forget, Schottenheimer warned just about everyone in the coaching community to beware of Snyder. The takers may be the ones who want a shot at a higher level coaching position but don't have the credentials yet to be taken by better teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Nick Saban and Art Briles, are you SERIOUS? Yeah, let's bring in a guy who already screwed over one NFL team before. Or a guy who lucked into coaching a Big 12 team at very weak point. Makes total sense. And Jon Gruden? Wow. This is not Madden. Briles may have lucked into a job. But he has proven to be an excellent coach and recruiter. Baylor was nothing before he came there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prototype Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 All the best coaches already have a secure job with a winning organization. That's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDragon38 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 /argument. If you are going to argue that the PAC 12 is closer to the NFL than the SEC, I can't have a debate with you, for you don't know college football BTW, Petrino was louisville. Strength of schedule rankings: Alabama: 42 Auburn: 20 Missouri: 31 LSU: 27 South Carolina: 30 Texas A&M: 29 Stanford: 4 Oregon: 28 Arizona State: 2 Washington: 13 UCLA: 6 USC: 14 Arizona: 18 Explain to me again how the SEC schedule is better than the Pac 12? EDIT: Baylor's ranking is 60 for anybody who is curious...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstarr Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 These people saying we're not gonna be able to get a top coach are either speaking in anger/frustration, or don't know what they're talking about. There are 32 coaching jobs in the NFL- 5 or so which will be available this year. Of those 5, 2-3 will be for historically bad franchises in 2nd tier markets, without most of the major weapons and cash this one has. Anyone the Skins offer, will accept. The only time we have been rebuffed was by Steve spagnuolo, because he had other opportunities, and believe it or not, we were in worse shape then than we are now. We have cash to spend and a qb in place, in a top market. We can get whoever we want. Not anyone nice qoute from Dungy 'Tony Dungy on Dan Snyder: 'I would not want to work for him'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_ Skinshead Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Not even Joe Gibbs could fix this Didn't he also quit on the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 We need to get Seattle's or San Francisco's offensive coordinator as a head coach... And pray that Houston let's Wade Phillips go and snag him. But since it makes too much sense, I know it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCchillin89 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Strength of schedule rankings: Alabama: 42 Auburn: 20 Missouri: 31 LSU: 27 South Carolina: 30 Texas A&M: 29 Stanford: 4 Oregon: 28 Arizona State: 2 Washington: 13 UCLA: 6 USC: 14 Arizona: 18 Explain to me again how the SEC schedule is better than the Pac 12? where did I say anything about "strength of schedule?" I said the SEC is better than the PAC 12. That's it. I'm done arguing with you and digressing from the point of the thread. But just Do me a favor, approach any knowledgeable college football fan, maybe even the NCAA college football thread in the tailgate, and bring that argument the "PAC 12 is a better conference than the SEC and closer to the NFL" to the table and see if you don't get laughed at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Not anyone nice qoute from Dungy 'Tony Dungy on Dan Snyder: 'I would not want to work for him'' Marty Schottenheimer had a similar quote but even more personally against Snyder and then in months was the coach of the Washington Redskins. Who gives a **** about Dungy since we aren't interested in him> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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