BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 And it's because Shanahan BUILT the line that way. Yep....and he was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Wow.. No Pressure you apparently like to make things here personal! Well I hope you feel better after that and if you want keep personally taking shots at me I can take it. ive seen more and been through more then you've dreamed about ....HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 No doubt Lich and Chester were getting blown up repeatedly tonight. Been getting blown up the whole season really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Didnt know untill tonight that GR has sufered 18 fumbles since 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Chester and Kory Lich both were liabilities tonight. Â Both look slower, Chester especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut0862 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think Ware was going to cry when he got hurt because he knew what he was going to miss out on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013    So Shanahan (either one) has to make a decision: either get bigger O-lineman for a more traditional offense (not likely), or go back to the kinds of offense that can be effective behind this kind of line.  Shanny doesn't deserve this luxury. He's been coaching here long enough. The O-Line should be good enough by now. If his initial method doesn't pay any dividends his entire system ought to be scrapped along with him. When FOUR of your O-linemen are mediocre the whole "oh we were penalized 36 million blah blah" excuse doesn't work either. A FA or 2 weren't going to change the fortune's of this O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I hate it when we lose because of the people who crawl from out of the woodwork around here. There's already an element here trying to hijack the thread and make it an "RG3 can't do nothin', let's get rid of him" thread. It's the same **** I saw when folks came out of nowhere to blast Gibbs in his second tenure. They complained all about his schemes and how the game left him behind and yet we'd go out and blow out the cows and Giants and Eagles in back to back to back weeks, putting up 35 points each game (31 against the eagles). Â I think in this go round, blame does have to fall on our coaches head. Both shanahans deserve criticism. But it's too nutty to scapegoat our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36HAMMER Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I've been saying this for 4 years. I was concerned about the oline we would get with Shanahan. He prefers smallish oline, more quickness, speed than size strength. But I ask why can't we have both ? an olineman about 320 to 330 and even 335 and up for those rare big man who have great feet to go with that size and strength. our oline isn't overly strong physically or fast or quik or big. Licht and Mont. are having very bad seasons so far and i'd be very surprised for them to revert to their play of last year. don't see how we can get the lineman we need to help this struggling line. I would love for them to trade for Alex Mack   center of the Browns (Doubt the Browns would do it).  But he is widely considerd either the best or one of the top 3 centers in the game. As far as the two guards and the rt I don't see the answer out there we could actually trade for and surely not find them on the roster. That doesn't even talk about safety, a true no. 1 cb, and middle lb. I'm don't know how this tream can keep it from being a real long and slow burn. They fight but they still self inflict upon themselves untimely penalties, turnovers and a 2 min offense that takes 5 mintues.. Robert is still struggleing, granted it isn't all him . w also have a special teams that is as far from special as any part of this team at this point. Question to you guys is this, Should the Skins fire our special team coaches and find another or let it crash and burn. We don't have the cap space, or draft picks with which to get some players that could help this team to stand up. I appreciate their fight but it's still painful to watch. Byrd is available from the Bills but first of all is to get our DR.'s to check him out thoroughly if he checks out  then try and make a trade. But for oline guys that we could bring in here to strengthen our oline as well as getting a meaner and more talented lineman I don't see how have the ability to do anything to get any help.  Oh well HTTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 To all of you saying RGIII is terrible...when your offensive line is of the quality that gets routinely manhandled by backup players, you will not feel safe in the pocket, you will start getting jittery and you will NOT ever be in rhythm. What do you expect exactly? Coupled with the fact that we have no playmakers outside of Garcon...this isn't rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskin Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Zone blocking is a fraud. It isn't going to work with fast, strong, and big defensive linemen. In its heydey, it worked because DL'ers were lumbering, slow. Our interior was outmatched by scrubs. SCRUBS, for God's sake!!!  You can't tell me that RGIII (or anyone else) wouldn't have sliced up the Cowgirls defense if they'd have had some real fat boys with upper body strength up front. you need beef up front, and in this day and age you can find beef that can run and has agility. Trent Williams is not that much of a freak.  Lichtensteiger recovered that fumble earlier in the game because his man pushed him into the backfield and turned him around, where fortuitously he saw the ball on the ground. Chester's man was back there having tea nearly every snap. ANd my 6 year old daughter could've done a better job than Montgomery (okay, that's a bit harsh).  Peyton Manning wouldn't even be able to have success behind these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Wow.. No Pressure you apparently like to make things here personal! Well I hope you feel better after that and if you want keep personally taking shots at me I can take it. ive seen more and been through more then you've dreamed about ....HTTR When I read something stupid, I respond to it directly. In the gameday thread and in every thread afterwards including ones about the OFFENSIVE LINE *HINT HINT* you decided to spew your vendetta with RG3 all over the place. This is not intelligent football discourse you are attempting, you're entering a thread about the offensive line and giving us gem one-liners such as: Â "And RG3 is terrible too" Â Thanks for your significant and thoughtful addition to Redskins knowledge and discussion. As long as you continue to post silly comments like that I'll probably continue to respond to them and point out how silly they are. I also don't feel obligated to always respond to unintelligent comments with thoughtful and friendly ones of my own. Perhaps it is spiteful to say "an eye for an eye" or some cliche like that, but regardless of your opinions on the Redskins and our quarterback, if you're content to present your position in such a careless manner, you likely wouldn't understand what I was even saying if I responded with anything slightly more intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Shanny doesn't deserve this luxury. He's been coaching here long enough. The O-Line should be good enough by now. If his initial method doesn't pay any dividends his entire system ought to be scrapped along with him. When FOUR of your O-linemen are mediocre the whole "oh we were penalized 36 million blah blah" excuse doesn't work either. A FA or 2 weren't going to change the fortune's of this O-line. And don't forget the unnecessary move of switching to a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Guys, lets be totally honest. The OLine sucks. The WR didn't make any plays, BUT it's not blasphemy to say that RG3 played a bad game. He missed a lot of open guys and that fumble and the INT in the endzone was all him. And I also agree, Shanny's time is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocountyskins Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Guys, lets be totally honest. Last year we were not even a good team we just got hot and emotional at the right time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Guys, lets be totally honest. Last year we were not even a good team we just got hot and emotional at the right time. You have something there. When was the last time it didn't take a late season rally to get into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BgMase76# Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Last year the read option covered major flaws in this OL. Tonight i'd say Polumbus was our best OL. I watched as TW got bull rushed repeatedly and couldn't hold his ground. Chester was just lost completely. Monty missed that crucial block in the middle of the field killing the QB draw that would've scored 6. Polumbus was Polumbus, we got exactly what we knew we would get out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocountyskins Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You have something there. When was the last time it didn't take a late season rally to get into the playoffs. Yea it is kind of depressing it hurts a lot especially because so many people went into this season in denial. Including myself. I thought that we had turned the corner but when looking back it from this viewpoint I think I was in denial like most people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Tan Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Uhhh, yeah they are terrible. I'm tired of people saying "Pro Football focused graded Kory Lichtensteiger 1 out of every NFL lineman in the history in pass blocking on a Sunday afternoon when the weather is above 70 degrees and the humidity is below 60 percent...blah blah blah".  Look with your eyese. Everyone outside of Trent Wiliams would be a backup on almost any team in the league. They are not very good. You want to build the team up - start in the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 They looked terrible vs. back up DL tonight. Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins55 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Yes, it is bad, but it is not all on them.  RG3 was making bad throws even when he had time.  He also held on to it too long as well.  I love RG3 as much as the next guy, but he needs to be held accountable as well.  He is making mistakes, period.  This is the problem with Redskins fans.. You don't know how to accept a franchise QB because you haven't had one!  Name me one franchise QB that doesn't make mistakes?? Did you see Peyton Manning today?? The Jaguars made him look stupid for most of the game. But they still won because his team stepped up! As a QB when the ball is in your hand every play, every throw isn't going to be perfect. But any knowledgeable person can see that RG3 is not the problem with our offense so why should we blame him simply because he's the QB?? Receivers not getting open, not catching the ball, falling down on routes! Holding calls on the O-line. Absolutely no time to scan the field for RG3! Those are the real problems! Even Chris Collinsworth said RG3 isn't to blame for the loss. He saw the same thing I did that RG3 was the main one giving max effort on offense an carrying them for most of the game. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The sad part is the offense has been the worst part of the team. Yes, worse than the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Â So Shanahan (either one) has to make a decision: either get bigger O-lineman for a more traditional offense (not likely), or go back to the kinds of offense that can be effective behind this kind of line. can we make this a sticky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puma Kane Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I thought that "4th best offensive line" in the NFL could handle backups, but they were giving up pressure on three man rushes. Just think, ELI Manning think he's behind a bad line in the NYC, but he looks here and thinks to himself, that things could be much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 >pff >credible My sides. Never taking them seriously again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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