Kosher Ham Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I told you guys a few years ago that I was not a fan of the Howard or Nash pick-ups for the Lakers. Should have kept Odom, Barnes and Artest, traded Gasol, and kept it moving. I hated the D'Antoni move...and then all this randomness. As Joe states however...The Lakers brand is bigger than a few years/decade of misery. The Knicks haven't won in decades. Teams like Dallas, Miami, Cleveland, etc have to worry about that. Not the Lakers, Bulls, Knicks, Celtics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I'm absolutely positive I saw him and his rankings in some giant collection of NBA power rankings earlier today. Thanks for letting me know that though. I've been wanting a new WC team to follow and hate. Memphis it is. I think they still attach his name to the advanced stat rankings as he "created" them, but they aren't assembled or commented on by him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I think they still attach his name to the advanced stat rankings as he "created" them, but they aren't assembled or commented on by him at this point. yeah I remember how the analytics crowd was having a circle jerk fest when the Grizz plucked him. Edited November 18, 2014 by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 The irony is that Memphis doesn't seem like a sabremetric roster at all. They actually play defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Memphis seems like a better version of Chicago this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) I can't believe Rondo is shooting 30% from the line. If he finishes the season there, that's got to be an NBA record for a guard. He's actually shooting at higher percentage from 3. Head...hurts. And I swear to God I better not hear anyone put him on the same level as Wall again. No. Just no. Edited November 18, 2014 by G.A.C.O.L.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I can't believe Rondo is shooting 30% from the line. If he finishes the season there, that's got to be an NBA record for a guard. He's actually shooting at higher percentage from 3. Head...hurts. And I swear to God I better not hear anyone put him on the same level as Wall again. No. Just no. I like Wall, and Rondo's shooting is a huge problem, but Rondo is unique in how much he dominates a game from the point. He's a triple double machine, and Boston is so much better when he is in that it isn't even funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I like Wall, and Rondo's shooting is a huge problem, but Rondo is unique in how much he dominates a game from the point. He's a triple double machine, and Boston is so much better when he is in that it isn't even funny. He's so good they've been trying to trade him for three years and just took a point with their top pick. John Wall has shown you can build a team around him. Rondo has shown you can't. John Wall is a superstar. Rondo is a quirky, unique piece. That's my take anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Wall is better than Rondo now. The only PGs better than Wall now are CP3 (declining), Curry, and a healthy Westbrook (been a while since he's been healthy). Speaking of CP3, he's starting to show his age faster than I thought he would. It's basically happened in this calendar year. He's still hyper-efficient, but he doesn't look like the force he used to be. I think his days of being an MVP caliber player are behind him. I think people would have noticed this more if it hadn't coincided along with pretty profound growth in DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin. He peaked very early in his career, and never has been the same since his meniscus injury. I wonder why people don't really talk about that with him? His career trajectory is fascinating, I think it's one of the most interesting what-might-have-beens. I think he could have gone down as the greatest true PG ever if he never had that knee injury. And I think Kobe stole his MVP in 2008, and that was his one shot at getting the award. Edited November 18, 2014 by stevemcqueen1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I could see Paul becoming a rich man's Andre Miller. Where he just lasts forever because of his style. But yeah, you know who fell off FAST? Deron Williams. He went from a superstar, franchise player in the same class as Paul, to eh, an average starting PG. Seemingly overnight. Makes me wonder if he was just overhyped and overrated from the start, that Jerry Sloan probably deserved more credit for him then he got. I mean he went from 20 and 10 in Utah to 14 and 6 last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) He's so good they've been trying to trade him for three years and just took a point with their top pick. John Wall has shown you can build a team around him. Rondo has shown you can't. John Wall is a superstar. Rondo is a quirky, unique piece. That's my take anyway. Boston wants to trade him because they are trying to tear down and start over, and he is their one existing veteran piece with real trade value. But they are greedy and not willing to give him up unless they get a haul in return. Again, I like Wall. I defend Wall on here. I just don't think you need to knock Rondo to do that. Rondo is a better defender than Wall, and is probably the best overall defender among point guards. He also is a slightly better passer and much better rebounder than Wall. Rondo is from the Jason Kidd school of PGs, where scoring is the last thing you look for. Which is good, because Rondo is a lousy shooter. Wall is a much better scorer than Rondo, and has a higher ceiling. He might be better overall right now, when all is taken into account. But you don't need to knock Rondo to reach that conclusion. Edited November 18, 2014 by Predicto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I could see Paul becoming a rich man's Andre Miller. Where he just lasts forever because of his style. But yeah, you know who fell off FAST? Deron Williams. He went from a superstar, franchise player in the same class as Paul, to eh, an average starting PG. Seemingly overnight. Makes me wonder if he was just overhyped and overrated from the start, that Jerry Sloan probably deserved more credit for him then he got. I mean he went from 20 and 10 in Utah to 14 and 6 last year. I just think Deron Williams got in the way of his own growth. Beefing with coaches and never being in shape aren't ever good signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Dwight Howard should be suspended for the season - Roger Goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Aww, the Lakers won another game. WTG, Hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Nice moment for Kobe tonight as he gets to 32,000 points and the Lakers get a win. He's about a few weeks away from getting to Jordan's career point total. I should also add that this is the first game this season where Kobe's shot over 50% in a game. It took him until the 11th game of the year to do that. Edited November 19, 2014 by samy316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Swaggy P is straight butter off the bench. That dudes gonna be in the league a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkeyBoy Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Nice to see the Bucks dust off that Ilysova they weren't using and beats the Knicks. Brandon Knight finally seems to be developing now that he's with Kidd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Nice moment for Kobe tonight as he gets to 32,000 points and the Lakers get a win. He's about a few weeks away from getting to Jordan's career point total. I should also add that this is the first game this season where Kobe's shot over 50% in a game. It took him until the 11th game of the year to do that. Kobe for MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 10 Year Anniversary today. http://youtu.be/GLUbycSKAqY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Man, time flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I remember watching that game. Insane. One of my favorites though is the one with JVG hanging on to Alonzo's leg during a Heat Knicks matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Deron Williams has been some trash since he left Utah. I remember he was actually in the coversation as the best PG in the league along side of Chris Paul. Seems like a century ago LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Can anyone name a better team made up of international stars then this team? Hakeem © Dirk (PF) Stojakovic (SF) Ginoboli (SG) Nash (PG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Can anyone name a better team made up of international stars then this team? Hakeem © Dirk (PF) Stojakovic (SF) Ginoboli (SG) Nash (PG) Parker over Nash? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Speaking of internationalI player, I wish the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union had collapsed about five years sooner. I think we really missed out on something special by getting a Sabonis that was already on his third set of knees. Heard so many stories about how ****ing awesome he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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