Mr. Sinister Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Kosher Ham said: You guys are so funny. You know where no FA signs and generally don't stay unless they can get paid more to lose ? Yeah, you do. Shaq, Gasol, Artest, Odom, etc... You guys act like it has been since the 80's. No one signs in DC...why would they ? Their leadership has been terrible since the early 90's. Lakers aren't even 10 years removed from the Ring. Next conspiracy... The NBA wants a Lakers/Boston revitalization. The Lakers might be a decent 5th seed with LeBron and whoever. Might. Celtics Lakers III ain't happening unless John Wick leaps through the movie screen and assassinates like 8 players across the Western United States ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I don't expect to win it all because of one player. I don't really want to give up a lot for one either. If they decide that is the route they want to take... I would expect an appearance at least. Third seed minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Lakers going after Boogie now with PG choosing to stand around and watch Russ stat pad for a couple more years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 George staying in OKC. What a worthless collection of superstars that team is. Strike one for Magic Johnson. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Paul George is why you trade your whole team for Kawhi Leonard and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 DeAndre Jordan to the Dubs for less than he opted out of with the Clippers would be funny so hell. Just to listen to people ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 The Warriors have the tax payer MLE which is a little over 5 million. He'd have to agree to a 19+ million dollar paycut. Or he could sign a max deal for the Mavs, which is what he'll probably do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Destino Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: George staying in OKC. What a worthless collection of superstars that team is. Strike one for Magic Johnson. They must have planted some palm trees in OKC. ESPN was sure he was gone from OKC. I heard them talking on little mikes new morning show and The Jump about life for OKC after PG. They thought trading Westbrook to start the rebuild was something the Thunder would have to consider. Oh well, they’ll just have to live with the reality that small market teams keep signing allstars a little longer. I hope Lebron signs in Milwaukee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 I'm going to laugh if LeBron stays in Cleveland and Kawhi ends up on a deadass Lakers team by himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Like I said, people in the know are saying hes wanted to go to LA regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 So, if I have this right, Denver declined Nikola Jokic's team option this summer in order to max him out a year early. That's decent of them. They could have had him play for another year for dirt cheap. Their roster is going to be super expensive and cost a lot of luxury tax and they're not going to be able to bring in outside free agents for a while. But they did right by their young star and made sure he won't hit the open market for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 This can't be right. Denver's just committed over 40 million more salary per year for the next 4 years. Their payroll is going to be like 140+ million next season. How can they afford this? 1 minute ago, StillUnknown said: And they wouldn't pay luxury tax to keep James Harden. Fools. But seriously though, where the Hell are these small and mid market teams getting the money for these payrolls and tax bills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Losing Ariza is killer. He was their Durant stopper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 What is Phoenix doing though? 15 mil for Ariza when you already have Jackson and drafted Bridges? Maybe they think they're closer to playoffs than they actually are and Ariza helps them get there I don't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 If Ayton is transcendent, then they might actually be a fringe playoff team. They've picked in the top 8 so many times they're bizarrely deep. In addition to Ariza, Jackson, and Bridges, they also have Jared Dudley and TJ Warren at SF, and at PF they've got Marquese Chriss and they just spent a 4th overall pick on Dragan Bender. Center they've got Ayton and Tyson Chandler. Booker and Knight at guard. It's a weird mix of quality role player and blue chip young talent that can start winning soon and eventually grow into a power team. So who is going to **** Houston over and sign Capela to a big ass offer sheet? Dallas is obviously out. What about Brooklyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I'm going to laugh if LeBron stays in Cleveland and Kawhi ends up on a deadass Lakers team by himself. I am hoping for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 9 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: But seriously though, where the Hell are these small and mid market teams getting the money for these payrolls and tax bills? The NBA TV contract. And that they can eventually sell the team for substantially more than they bought. I hope OKC moves back to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 LOL @ the Lakers. I love when big market teams feel entitled to every great player then completely strike out. George treated Magic the same way Durant treated Grunfeld: didn't even give him a meeting. LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: And that they can eventually sell the team for substantially more than they bought. I looked it up, and the NBA has a huge debt pool of 200 million in house financing per team that they can borrow against to pay operating costs, as well as 50 million they can borrow from outside sources. The huge size of this pool comes from the big TV contract they signed in 2014. And the huge amount of credit the league gives them has fed into the increased valuations. The increasing team valuations feel like they're fueled by a bubble to me. It's based on a massive TV contract that was damn near ruinous for ESPN. It has completely compromised ESPN's coverage of each sport and fueled downsizing at the network. Cable TV subscriptions are plummeting and an equal revenue stream from other viewing technologies hasn't emerged. ESPN's NBA deal is going to be a cautionary tale now. What's going to happen to the NBA when their TV deal expires and the next one they sign is nowhere close to as lucrative and you have all of these overvalued franchises with ownership groups that are heavily in debt and have very little equity and they try to sell their teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said: I hope OKC moves back to Seattle. I think you might be exactly right that this is what is happening. OKC's ownership group doesn't care if they are super overleveraged because they can still sell the team for a big ass gain if they make the move at the height of the bubble. And you make the franchise more attractive by fielding a competitive roster with starry players. As far as I'm concerned, I think any team taking on a massive amount of payroll and tax debt could be trying to sell their team and cash in on the bubble. I assumed that the bubble wouldn't burst until the ESPN deal expired, but if there is a widespread rush to sell now, it could really hurt he league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On the bright side, LeBron will be able to buy his NBA team with his couch cushion money after the bubble bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I looked it up, and the NBA has a huge debt pool of 200 million in house financing per team that they can borrow against to pay operating costs, as well as 50 million they can borrow from outside sources. The huge size of this pool comes from the big TV contract they signed in 2014. And the huge amount of credit the league gives them has fed into the increased valuations. The increasing team valuations feel like they're fueled by a bubble to me. It's based on a massive TV contract that was damn near ruinous for ESPN. It has completely compromised ESPN's coverage of each sport and fueled downsizing at the network. Cable TV subscriptions are plummeting and an equal revenue stream from other viewing technologies hasn't emerged. ESPN's NBA deal is going to be a cautionary tale now. What's going to happen to the NBA when their TV deal expires and the next one they sign is nowhere close to as lucrative and you have all of these overvalued franchises with ownership groups that are heavily in debt and have very little equity and they try to sell their teams? The next move is streaming and they will earn even more since that’s how they live globally and the NBA is already positioned as the USA’s global league. People been saying tv/media contract is a bubble since the early aughts. It’s not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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