CurseReversed Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 It will be interesting to see how they portray the issue, its just instinctive in me to assume they will be bashing Snyder and the Redskins. Although this is probably how it will play out regardless of balance. There is just to much red meat, there. But honestly I am not as concerned with how relevant or important their opinions are, but more on how their themes tend to become very popular in our culture around my age group. Random people are already continually bringing this issue up, as if they are personally offended, whenever the name redskin gets spoken in casual conversation. Hard to see how this South Park episode wont make this problem worse, but hey maybe like some people said they will make some good points on the other side and shut some people up, instead of opening up their mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfaninny Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Do you like fish sticks? I'm a musical genius and the voice of a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 What are the odds that Snyder sues him for copyright infringement? It would be great for Deal's career. The press would side with the struggling artist over the billionaire bully. Deal's fundraising campaign would be satisfied much sooner than he anticipates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I'm a musical genius and the voice of a generation. And you're married to the hobbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby tripod Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 His piece goes on for 8 hours, from 7pm until 3am, this won't get much press coverage if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Interesting last few pages. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Hmmmm.... proposal to ban Skins gear in public schools. I didn't expect this strategy. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-schwanbeck/time-for-schools-to-ban-r_b_5858398.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYAioUMTg0MjMwMjE1NzAyMzM4OTA2MTcyGjRjMTM4YzMxMGYyOTExYjM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNELIf3uO9BaDKjL05yIV1rIm3Y_CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Better ban all the teams, because if you stigmatize just MY kid by saying he's wearing or supporting racism, i will sue the **** out of the school. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Absolutely. Bang is spot on with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Hmmmm.... proposal to ban Skins gear in public schools. I didn't expect this strategy. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-schwanbeck/time-for-schools-to-ban-r_b_5858398.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYAioUMTg0MjMwMjE1NzAyMzM4OTA2MTcyGjRjMTM4YzMxMGYyOTExYjM6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNELIf3uO9BaDKjL05yIV1rIm3Y_CA "Nobody can hurt me without my permission." ~ Gandhi Better ban all the teams, because if you stigmatize just MY kid by saying he's wearing or supporting racism, i will sue the **** out of the school. ~Bang Right behind you. This is getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Better ban all the teams, because if you stigmatize just MY kid by saying he's wearing or supporting racism, i will sue the **** out of the school. ~Bang You'll lose. And probably on summary judgment. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfaninny Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 You'll lose. And probably on summary judgment. Just saying. I would sue too. I am part Native American myself, so don't see how it would be racist for me or my kids to wear Redskins gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I would sue too. I am part Native American myself, so don't see how it would be racist for me or my kids to wear Redskins gear. I'm not making a moral judgment. Just telling you that you would lose. Schools have remarkable leeway on dress codes and speech restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 We do everything we can to not stigmatize or traumatize children... Except YOU who likes a football team. YOU get out. F that. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 We do everything we can to not stigmatize or traumatize children... Except YOU who likes a football team. YOU get out. F that. ~Bang Good speech. Will still get dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Good speech. Will still get dismissed. I'd take my chances. I don't see how it could be so open and shut. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I'd take my chances. I don't see how it could be so open and shut. ~Bang Because the cause of action you named - "being singled out" - does not exist. Do you really want a complex analysis of this? Because I can do it, and it would be really boring. Generally speaking, "Redskins fan" is not a protected class, and schools have huge leeway in determining dress codes. They can more or less be arbitrary as long as they can make a reasonable argument. And reasonability is a pretty low bar to clear. No court is going to care about Smithsonian articles and Joe Harjo's finances when determining reasonability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 And you'd likely have to pay your lawyer out of pocket. Good luck finding one who'll take the case for free, the way most big civil rights rulings have begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Because the cause of action you named - "being singled out" - does not exist. Do you really want a complex analysis of this? Because I can do it, and it would be really boring. Generally speaking, "Redskins fan" is not a protected class, and schools have huge leeway in determining dress codes. They can more or less be arbitrary as long as they can make a reasonable argument. And reasonability is a pretty low bar to clear. No court is going to care about Smithsonian articles and Joe Harjo's finances when determining reasonability. well, i never said my kid was "singled out" unless he's the only one in the school who is punished. What i did say was that if you ban one, ban them all, because wse are so sensitive to stigmatizing kids that we bend over backwards to make every single little thing in their lives fair, and i do not see how explaining to a kid how his NFL shirt is offensive and anther is not is really doing anything in that regard. And, I would also not just say "you singled my kid out"./ I'd do it the way all lawyers do. I will find a psychologist to build my bull**** case by describing how isolated and stigmatized his shirt ban made him feel, especially since the Buffalo Bills fan kid is still walking around with an homage to a genocidal maniac and human exploiter on his shirt. My lawyer will find all sorts of things to make this argument beyond "you singled my kid out" It's not going to be about the shirt, It's going to be about how this crusade has 'damaged' my kid. And no judge is going to summarily dismiss a claim like that,, at least without fear of reprisals.. if Harjo can play the Kardashian Kulture Kard, so can I. A judge picking on a child over his NFL t-shirt? got to be somebody somewhere that would take that story. Hypothetically speaking, of course. My kid is not in school anymore, and is a legal adult who can say "F you, I have a right to free speech". and wear his shirt. Ultimately, I doubt it would matter. But given how idiotic schools typically are in implementing their policies, by the time we were done, every sports shirt would be banned, because it's easier to justify saying no to all than saying no to some. and then we'd have some stink, wouldn't we? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I will find a psychologist to build my bull**** case by describing how isolated and stigmatized his shirt ban made him feel, especially since the Buffalo Bills fan kid is still walking around with an homage to a genocidal maniac and human exploiter on his shirt. That's the way cases are made on ABC sitcoms but not actually in the real world. Still..... good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 And you'd likely have to pay your lawyer out of pocket. Good luck finding one who'll take the case for free, the way most big civil rights rulings have begun. Not bing a handout-seeking type, this is a given. ~Bang That's the way cases are made on ABC sitcoms but not actually in the real world. Still..... good luck to you. well, thanks for not being condescending or anything. ~Barf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 well, thanks for not being condescending or anything. ~Barf Well, your scenario was dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Well, your scenario was dumb. thats the point- so is the other sides argument. i think youre starting to get it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Well, your scenario was dumb. OK, fair enough. But i figure banning a sports team's shirt is pretty dumb as well. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 lbk- you do know that negative psychological impact upon native american youth is one of the main arguments being put out there by the name changers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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