whitejimmy Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Here's a thought: why don't we wait and see if McGruber can play and then decide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Luck behind our oline wouldent last for 5 minutes and his career would be ruined. Remember Patrick Ramsey? AFter he got his brains smashed in so many times he became flinchy started throwing the ball away when no one was actually around him always looking over his shoulder. Our line actually has been good in pass pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Trade for Luck? Like everything else the answer is: it depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsSuperBowl21 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 If your picking 16th - you wouldn't have enough value in your picks for a top 2 pick. There is a point system and it wouldn't work unless someone was willing to take 2013 picks - but that never will happen. Your not getting Luck, which means you will not get a franchise caliber QB next year , unless you get " lucky" with one in the midrounds. Don't hold your breath Unless you trade more than picks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Logically, I would say No. They need depth everywhere, they still need some starters, and you don't have to have an HOF caliber QB to win. That said, if the opportunity presented itself, I'd probably do it. The 'Skins haven't had a franchise QB since Sonny. Trade 2 first, 2 seconds, and get the guy if you can. Heck, throw in Cooley and the rights to FedEx for all I care. I THINK that with this team, and a better QB, the team would be more productive. I was a firm believer that you have to build the pieces first, then get the QB. I think there are enough pieces, certainly on defense, to be competitive. A rookie QB now won't get completely killed, or be responsible for winning games. You have the defense and theoretically a running game to ease a rookie in. We haven't had a star QB in so long. I'd be fine taking a chance on Luck and seeing where the chips fall. But keep in mind, the only way this happens is if St. Louis or Indy gets the first pick. All the other bad teams would just turn a deaf ear and pick the guy. PS: If Caron Palmer works out in Oakland, we could always trade for JC. (Ducking for cover...) (Completely kidding.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfriedenthal Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Rivers is the only elite QB playing right now who was drafted in the Top 10. I would argue P. Manning (albeit on IR) is pretty elite. Vick could be elite, Matt Ryan is in the discussion. There are Elite QB's playing from the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Who's Andrew Luck? Haven't heard anything about him on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This team will not be drafting at the top of the draft The Defense is for real Who held Mike Vick and all those offensive stars to just 20 points this season? We did If it weren't for Rex Grossman throwing 4 INTS we could have won that game. We will be contending this year if John Beck can game manage with his arm and legs What would it take for a team drafting 15-32 to get to the number one pick? Every draft pick this year by most guesses Or 3 first round picks for the next 3 years if Carson Palmer is any indication Is anyone certain that Luck is worth 3 1st round picks? there are QB's like this one who do miss. I'm not saying Luck is the next Jeff George but remember him? And who gave of you supporting this trade actually gave Carolina credit for drafting Cam Newton? I know some of you like DG always did but conventional wisdom at the time was that he was more likely to be this guy Then what we've seen this year. My point is there is no guarantee, even with Luck Is he worth at least 3 1sts if I'm right about where we will pick from and maybe even more? I don't know. My heart says Maybe, my brain says No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellow41 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 People like to put out that who ever have the pick. While what if Rams get the pick? Oh and read up on Luck pulling an Eli. That is very much real. And Indy and MIA are not absolutely the best situation for a young QB of Luck talent to want to go to. Here's an article from Pro Football Talk today on this very topic. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/19/some-fear-luck-could-make-a-power-play/ It's extremely unlikely Luck's coming here, but you know Snyder and Shanahan would woo Luck (and his dad) like none other if they felt there was a shred of a possibility they could get him to "pull an Eli." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I'm guessing Luck is not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 If you really believe he's that good... he's worth almost any price, but you better be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Luck is a strong bet to be a franchise QB. If the asking price is reasonable, I say we pull the trigger. We have been waiting for decades for a FRANCHISE QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus71 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I highly doubt a team like the Dolphins or Colts would give up Luck if they could land him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Must I see one of these threads everytime I check here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Look at Andy Dalton. The guy is the looking like the best QB drafted in the last two drafts. Round 2, Pick 35. Luck may be first next Spring but it is not guaranteed that he will be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarantula Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 If we draft a QB early at all, I think we wait for Tannenhill in say round 2 or 3. In all honesty, I see us signing Matt Flynn as our future QB, the guy has loads of talent and has been behind one of the NFL's best in Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Look at Andy Dalton. The guy is the looking like the best QB drafted in the last two drafts. Round 2, Pick 35. Luck may be first next Spring but it is not guaranteed that he will be the best. Those were both also weak QB classes. This one is strong and the difference between Luck and the fourth QB drafted is going to be MUCH greater from a scouting/potential standpoint than the difference between Newton and Dalton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeguy Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 When you have a sure fire franchise QB available (if that is indeed the case), then you pull the trigger and pay the piper whatever his fee to ensure 10-15 years of a solid franchise guy that can grow with the team and make playoffs a given rather than a lofty dream. So in short, if the prospect is rock solid, then hell yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 When you have a sure fire franchise QB available (if that is indeed the case), then you pull the trigger and pay the piper whatever his fee to ensure 10-15 years of a solid franchise guy that can grow with the team and make playoffs a given rather than a lofty dream.So in short, if the prospect is rock solid, then hell yes! There is absolutely no such thing on planet earth. It's all a gamble. The question is how much are you willing to plunk down? Want to bet the house on the next David Carr, Ryan Leaf.. or any of the other zillion 'sure fire' guys? ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There is absolutely no such thing on planet earth.It's all a gamble. The question is how much are you willing to plunk down? Want to bet the house on the next David Carr, Ryan Leaf.. or any of the other zillion 'sure fire' guys? ~Bang What's the worst that could happen? We'll just continue to have no hope for a championship for another few years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Football gods won't allow luck to go to the skins. I have already blocked him as even a possibility from my mind so I won't be disappointed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Something I think people are overlooking is that with a rookie payscale, it's going to be even harder to trade up into the top 3-5. Before, there was always a team or two that was more than willing to trade out so they wouldn't have to pay an untested high pick insane amounts of guaranteed cash. Now the payscale removes that factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper 21 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 No player is ever been worth that much not peyton manning nor tom brady. a team is a 53 deep that requires lots of competition. besides the mannings what other first overall selections got a ring? in the past 20 years. Oh John Elway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 No player is ever been worth that much not peyton manning nor tom brady. a team is a 53 deep that requires lots of competition. besides the mannings what other first overall selections got a ring? in the past 20 years.Oh John Elway Orlando Pace is the only one I think. And Drew Bledsoe got there but didn't get the ring, not as the starter anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmandm Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There are two types of Redskins fan here: The 80's old fan. Doesn't understand that the days of building a great team around a mediocre QB and winning SBs are long gone. They are the ones that say: No QB...we have too many holes to fill elsewhere. What about Center, ILB. These people just don't get the new NFL The Fan's that Get it. This is a passing league. This is a QB league. You keep taking QBs until you get a SB calibre QB. It is the only way to win in the NFL. You have one or you have NO Hope. None. Ever. You see a franchise QB, you get him. end of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.