mi6 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This topic has been discussed numerous times previously. No, as much as I would love to see Luck in Burgundy and Gold, it's not going to happen. We will have to settle for some other QB Prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbsisgod2006 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Not going to happen, what ever team that has the first pick, most likely the dolphins or Indy, there's no way the pass on a kid with his potential, even if he rides the pine behind Manning for three years. I was going to start another thread but I think this one would suffice. Since we probably won't get Luck, who is the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the draft. Or better yet, which one of the prospects best fits what Shanahan is trying to build in DC? Bottom line? We haven't had a franchise QB since Joey T and with the success of Stafford, Bradford, Newton, Dalton and the likes, these kids seem to be coming out more and more pro ready. So, what say you? Since Luck will most assuredly be off the board, whose next? Luck may pull a Eli and may not want to go to the team at the number 1 slot. I would be all in if we traded up for Luck those who cry about giving up the picks to get are crazy this guy is the real deal if they can do it they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issapunk Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Do it. We've given up so much to try and find a QB and if we trade up, we won't need to worry about it for a long time. Good QBs make the rest of the holes on a team less conspicuous.I'm in the minority, but you don't win without a franchise QB, no matter what other parts you assemble around him. Luck is the most NFL-ready franchise QB to come around in a long time. You guys want to start winning now? Trade up for Luck. You want to wait and hope that Ryan Tannehill isn't the next Ramsey or Campbell while we draft pieces around him? Fine by me but the chances of success in my eyes are better with the star QB already in place. One caveat - if we can trade up for less or stay put and draft Robert Griffin, I'm all for that too. But I would have no complaints if we traded a lot of picks for Luck. We had 12 this past year and all of them made the team (either PS or active roster) so we can afford to spend some now. That's exactly my point in starting this thread. People can say 'no way in hell we can get him', but if we offer the right price, why not? If St. Louis has the 1st pick, I don't see them taking Luck. Yes, there are other 'quality' QB's in the draft and Jason Campbell was considered a 'quality' QB. Trade away 4 top picks and get the guy that this team has needed since Theisman went down. It has been long enough and we have had holes on this team for years. We are good at getting talent in late rounds and picking up guys in the offseason. This team needs a franchise QB and Luck is the only sure thing in the draft. Take him and build our team around him. With him on our team, we instantly improve, even with holes at wide receiver and o-line. Those holes can be filled, but would you rather take a gamble on a QB in the middle of the draft and build our team and fill all of our holes and wait 5 years only to find out he is not the answer. That is a waste of time. Get the guy we need now and fix the holes in years to come. We have waited long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ressecup1987 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think I heard somewhere that Luck may not even come out this year... which imo would be crazy. I think I heard someone say that on NFL Network or somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wake20 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Rivers is the only elite QB playing right now who was drafted in the Top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail26 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Yes, a third round pick and Kyle shanahan for luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 People like to put out that who ever have the pick. While what if Rams get the pick? Oh and read up on Luck pulling an Eli. That is very much real. And Indy and MIA are not absolutely the best situation for a young QB of Luck talent to want to go to. Why would he want to go to the Colts and sit the bench for 3 more years. Or go to the Dolphins with the GM and Ownership is a mess. We out of all the team that needy a Franchise QB we have the best situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 We needed a new GM and we need a franchise QB Very true. And both topics were discussed in about 77 threads on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I'm still not sold on Luck. His OL is so good it's not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issapunk Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 People like to put out that who ever have the pick. While what if Rams get the pick? Oh and read up on Luck pulling an Eli. That is very much real. And Indy and MIA are not absolutely the best situation for a young QB of Luck talent to want to go to. Why would he want to go to the Colts and sit the bench for 3 more years. Or go to the Dolphins with the GM and Ownership is a mess. We out of all the team that needy a Franchise QB we have the best situation. What do you mean read up on Luck pulling an Eli? It would make sense for Luck to want to come here. We have the money and the fan base that players love and we have a good defense and the team that would allow him to win as soon as possible. I don't see him wanting to sit under Peyton and constantly being compared to him for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Thats what I'm talking about. Im saying we are the best situation. On Nfl network they got a article where it says him and his father will choose where he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoEd Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 My bad, forgot about the self proclaimed "2012 comprehensive draft thread". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Would you give up Roth, Polamalu, and Santonio Holmes up for Eli Manning or Phillip Rivers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 NO NO NO There will be a great selection of QBs coming out this season, why throw away multiple draft picks on an unknown. How do we know Luck is not the next Ryan Leaf?? I think the redskins will be able to pick a great prospect in the mid first round without the need to throw away picks. For once, I want the redskins to build a team first then go after their QB. Not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 The only way I am not for this, is if we are able to sign Matt Flynn in free agency. If we can do this, then I will support drafting Hightower or Te'o first and coming back for a qb in the second (or trading back into the first for a qb). But, if we can't get Flynn, then I am all for trading up for Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Would you give up Roth, Polamalu, and Santonio Holmes up for Eli Manning or Phillip Rivers? Are you comparing Eli and Rivers to Luck. Would I trade Harrison, Polamalu, and Santonio Holmes For Aaron Rogers souped up yea I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Are you comparing Eli and Rivers to Luck. Would I trade Harrison, Polamalu, and Santonio Holmes For Aaron Rogers souped up yea I would. I don't know if you remeber, but Eli was mentioned heavily as the best QB that draft. The one who will be just like his brother. The can't miss QB. Roth, ahhh, small college, question marks etc. The other two players, yea the next first round picks for the Steelers (if I am not mistaken). Think about the three players you would get for a single player who may not be as great as expected. You cannot just pick 3 players who have SHOWN they can produce in the NFL. Rodgers dropped like crazy. How are you comparing him to Luck?!? You have to look at how the draft works. You have to look at what trading for an unknown can do to your franchise good or bad. 3 first is ridiculous as much as 2 first for Palmer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor21_INT_4_TD Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 landry jones is a beast.. and i think matt barkley will be a good prospect as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issapunk Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 The only way I am not for this, is if we are able to sign Matt Flynn in free agency. If we can do this, then I will support drafting Hightower or Te'o first and coming back for a qb in the second (or trading back into the first for a qb). But, if we can't get Flynn, then I am all for trading up for Luck. This. I seriously hope the Redskins go after Matt Flynn. I have heard the complaint that people want our own QB to groom, but I don't think it gets any better than having a QB who was groomed under Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay organization. I'm sick of having instability and uncertainty around our QB position. Trade the house for Luck or get Matt Flynn, but why gamble on a mid round QB because he is still considered talented. Luck is in a different league no matter what you say and he isn't the next Ryan Leaf. Look at the difference in character between the two and that's your answer. I would love Flynn or Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 There is no reason to trade up for Luck. This QB class is deep and we can find a franchise QB without sacrificing much. I think so too. I think the Shanahan's think their Franchise QB is in this draft as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issapunk Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 I think so too. I think the Shanahan's think their Franchise QB is in this draft as well. I mean they better. It seems like they do based off of them making no moves for any QB's this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM72 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I would do it. I dont care about hte holes ... if Luck was on this team right now we would have the best team in the NFC East. Shanny and Allen have proved the ability to hit on late picks ... Id give two firsts and two seconds to move up and get that guy. I'd do too. We can fill up holes through late picks and free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWinSkins83 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I don't know if you remeber, but Eli was mentioned heavily as the best QB that draft. The one who will be just like his brother. The can't miss QB.Roth, ahhh, small college, question marks etc. The other two players, yea the next first round picks for the Steelers (if I am not mistaken). Think about the three players you would get for a single player who may not be as great as expected. You cannot just pick 3 players who have SHOWN they can produce in the NFL. Rodgers dropped like crazy. How are you comparing him to Luck?!? You have to look at how the draft works. You have to look at what trading for an unknown can do to your franchise good or bad. 3 first is ridiculous as much as 2 first for Palmer is. Exactly and those picks that we trade for him might not be nothing but busts too. But from what I've seen of Luck is ten times better than Eli was. Luck is a sure thing people. There's no weakness in his game. He can do it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I'm torn on this. The QB situation in DC has been horrible for a LONG time. We could easily give up way too much and it would put us back 2 years. Or, we trade for Luck and and rely on making great selections in rounds 5-7 for the next two years. Not sure at this point. But I really like the idea of having an elite QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mocountyskins Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I would do it. I dont care about hte holes ... if Luck was on this team right now we would have the best team in the NFC East. Shanny and Allen have proved the ability to hit on late picks ... Id give two firsts and two seconds to move up and get that guy. Luck behind our oline wouldent last for 5 minutes and his career would be ruined. Remember Patrick Ramsey? AFter he got his brains smashed in so many times he became flinchy started throwing the ball away when no one was actually around him always looking over his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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