Toe Jam Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/41889946#41889946 . UPDATE: Video and title from MSNBC are misleading. Upon further review, Republicans are slightly less evil than originally thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Is it just me, or are there an abnormally nigh number of high-profile abortion bills this year? ND, TX, GA, UT all come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Is it just me, or are there an abnormally nigh number of high-profile abortion bills this year? ND, TX, GA, UT all come to mind. Republicans will probably try to implement a Crusade-like policy before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Is it just me, or are there an abnormally nigh number of high-profile abortion bills this year? ND, TX, GA, UT all come to mind. Jockeying for the next election. Motivating the base. Oh, and I'll observe that we've seen claims like this made about other bills that, while certainly extreme, weren't as extreme as portrayed. (Remember "law will legalize people to kill abortion doctors"?) Republicans will probably try to implement a Crusade-like policy before long. According to some, we've already done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Is it just me, or are there an abnormally nigh number of high-profile abortion bills this year? ND, TX, GA, UT all come to mind. Probably just you...there are always many proposed How about a link to the bill itself instead of talking heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Interesting, I've always felt this was a valid argument in favor of abortion rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Was that the best expert they could find? Seems like she didn't know anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Probably just you...there are always many proposedHow about a link to the bill itself instead of talking heads? Sure. Go ahead find a way to defend this trash. http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display.aspx?Legislation=31965 A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend the Official Code of Georgia Annotated so as to provide that prenatal murder shall be unlawful in all events and to remove numerous references to such procedures; to amend Title 16, relating to crimes and offenses, so as to make certain findings of fact; to define certain terms; to provide that any prenatal murder shall be unlawful; to provide a penalty; to repeal certain exceptions to certain offenses; to provide for severability; to provide an effective date; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Interesting, I've always felt this was a valid argument in favor of abortion rights Why?....there is the presumption of innocence and a substantial burden of proof in murder cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Honestly, what the heck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I didn't watch the video, but read the explanation of the bill... I don't think a woman who miscarries has anything to worry about even under the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Sure.Go ahead find a way to defend this trash. Defend personhood for a fetus?...sure,glad too The assertion Georgia can define away Roe is another matter,though granting persohood certainly changes Roe v Wade You want to defend the assertion a miscarriage can result in the death penalty?....So can walking down the street,but that is rather a stretch w/o you committing violence against another person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
December90 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Seems like we have another strong candidate for http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?319353-Overt-and-conscious-media-distortion-perpetrated-by-the-liberal-media The proposed bill does not criminalize miscarriage. It is very strong pro-life/anti-abortion bill that essentially tries to address non-standard abortions (intentionally harming the unborn baby) Nice to see MSNBC living up to their well earned reputation as the Trash-heap Faux News of the Left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Seems like we have another strong candidate for http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?319353-Overt-and-conscious-media-distortion-perpetrated-by-the-liberal-mediaThe proposed bill does not criminalize miscarriage. It is very strong pro-life/anti-abortion bill that essentially tries to address non-standard abortions (intentionally harming the unborn baby) Nice to see MSNBC living up to their well earned reputation as the Trash-heap Faux News of the Left. It would have been nice if they had gotten an actual expert rather than someone who provides no evidence that she's done any research. A headline like "Death penalty for miscarriages" has to be questioned. It's so crazy that absolutely no insight was given with the report. They say it's punishment for "a common and natural process" but that's obviously not true according to what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 It specifically says murder. A miscarriage is not intentional and cannot be murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam@section118 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 It specifically says murder. A miscarriage is not intentional and cannot be murder. I blame it all on Fox News....sorry Faux News :pfft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Sure.Go ahead find a way to defend this trash. http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en-US/display.aspx?Legislation=31965 A BILL to be entitled an Act to amend the Official Code of Georgia Annotated so as to provide that prenatal murder shall be unlawful in all events and to remove numerous references to such procedures; to amend Title 16, relating to crimes and offenses, so as to make certain findings of fact; to define certain terms; to provide that any prenatal murder shall be unlawful; to provide a penalty; to repeal certain exceptions to certain offenses; to provide for severability; to provide an effective date; to repeal conflicting laws; and for other purposes. The actual punitive portion (reading is your friend): (2) 'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an 115 intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, 116 that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother 117 and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. 118 Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically 119 as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human 120 involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event In other words, this thread title is complete horse ****. If MSNBC titled the article that way, this belongs in the overt and conscious media distortion thread. This is a run of the mill, state ant-abortion bill. It labels abortion as murder.Seriously people, read stuff, don't just swallow headlines hook, line and sinker.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 The actual punitive portion (reading is your friend):In other words, this thread title is complete horse ****. If MSNBC titled the article that way, this belongs in the overt and conscious media distortion thread. This is a run of the mill, state ant-abortion bill. It labels abortion as murder.Seriously people, read stuff, don't just swallow headlines hook, line and sinker.... Sounds right to me. Its a stupid bill, but the title of the article is even stupider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Sounds right to me. Its a stupid bill, but the title of the article is even stupider. They did label the top right of the video with:Proposed law: Women get death if they miscarry :doh::doh::doh::doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WALL-LE Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 sweet caption toe jam ur attempt at making republicans look barbaric failed miserably u just sound like a douche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 As others have noted, the title of the article and the video are incredibly misleading. In fact, they're simply wrong. BS is BS, no matter who is spewing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Wow, nice accurate title there, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Wow, nice accurate title there, man. Wow, good job clicking the link and realizing that's what MSNBC had above the video. I didn't make up the thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Wow. That title is horrible. We actually have a real, life example of liberal media deception here. 20 more of them and we will equal a single day of Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe Jam Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Wow. That title is horrible. We actually have a real, life example of liberal media deception here. 20 more of them and we will equal a single day of Fox News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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