ACW Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110224/US.Encouraging.Suicide/ MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota man charged with two counts of aiding suicide was committing a crime — not playing a game — when he "hunted" vulnerable people on the Internet and encouraged two of them to kill themselves, prosecutors claim.William Melchert-Dinkel used alter egos to stalk victims and get them to commit suicide for the "thrill of the chase," prosecutors said in written arguments filed in advance of a court hearing Thursday in front of a judge who will decide whether the former nurse's actions were criminal. "Advising and encouraging others in suicide is not an online game for Mr. Melchert-Dinkel's amusement — it is a crime," Rice County Attorney Paul Beaumaster wrote. He added that Melchert-Dinkel admitted his "conversations moved into the realm of sick and perverse advice." Melchert-Dinkel has pleaded not guilty to two counts of aiding suicide in the 2005 hanging death of Mark Drybrough, 32, of Coventry, England, and the 2008 drowning of Nadia Kajouji, 18, of Brampton, Ontario. Melchert-Dinkel's fate is now in the hands of Rice County District Court Judge Thomas Neuville after the 48-year-old southern Minnesota man waived his right to a jury trial and said he would not dispute the evidence against him, only whether what he did was a crime. Disgusting if true :mad:I think suicide should be legal, but there's gotta be SOMETHING to lock this douchebag up for. At least I hope the families bankrupt his ass :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 At least I hope the families bankrupt his ass :mad: ...into suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I thought there were whole websites devoted to encouraging suicide? So if this is indeed criminal activity they should be shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I thought there were whole websites devoted to encouraging suicide? So if this is indeed criminal activity they should be shut down. There is a difference between discussing and making info available vs stalking to prompt suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homercles82 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 There is a difference between discussing and making info available vs stalking to prompt suicide. I don't feel either one is acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec138 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110224/US.Encouraging.Suicide/Disgusting if true :mad: I think suicide should be legal, but there's gotta be SOMETHING to lock this douchebag up for. At least I hope the families bankrupt his ass :mad: I agree entirely. Makes me wonder what he got out of it though since it was all online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Again, not sure if this is a crime, but if the families sued him they could make money IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I don't feel either one is acceptable. I support the right to die so I have a different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmonkforHOF Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 this story made the rounds here a while ago, since one of the victims was a local girl, and I can assure you this is very much true. the problem authorities have had is what to charge him with and where, he's American and his victims are Canadian and English. The stuff he said (typed) and did to encourage the girl to kill herself is the most disturbing and sick things you have ever heard of. This man deserves to suffer, and I am not much on revenge but here I think it is justified, taking advantage of emotionally disturbed people for his sick amusement is just plain wrong, no matter what your morals are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm sure this, or something like it, was a Criminal Minds episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Suicide tips creepy and sick, attorney says, but not illegal What his client did was "obsessive, morbid, abhorrent, sick" and "creepy," defense attorney Terry Watkins told a judge Thursday in Faribault, Minn. But urging two people to kill themselves was free speech — not a crime, he argued. Former nurse William Melchert-Dinkel, 48, of Faribault has been charged with two felony counts of encouraging, advising or assisting another in committing suicide. After oral arguments Thursday morning, Rice County District Judge Thomas Neuville took the matter under advisement; he will issue a verdict within 20 days. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Again, not sure if this is a crime, but if the families sued him they could make money IMO. That's the last thing on their minds right now, or should be the last thing on their minds...making money off a family member's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I support the right to die so I have a different perspective. The websites I was refering to has nothing to do with terminal illness. There are some sites (usually (most? all?) satanic) that actively encourage suicide among the physically healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 The websites I was refering to has nothing to do with terminal illness. The are some sites (usually (most? all?) satanic) that actively encourage suicide among the physically healthy. Hey if people are dumb enough why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick6 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I saw this on 60 minutes awhile back. Wasn't dude faking that he was a women and wanted to watch the person hang themself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter44 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I support the right to die so I have a different perspective. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So....I got banned here once for telling MSF to make sure he got "the entire shotgun in front of his face." If he had heeded my advice, could I be prosecuted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 So....I got banned here once for telling MSF to make sure he got "the entire shotgun in front of his face."If he had heeded my advice' date=' could I be prosecuted?[/quote'] How do you know he didn't heed your advice?:paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Did ya charge him for technical advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I support the right to die so I have a different perspective. Even if Progressives, non Christians or the mentally unstable outside the USA are determined to make the world a better place by purging it of themselves and not taking others with them....................... . . . It is still a sad state of affairs, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 Even if Progressives, non Christians or the mentally unstable outside the USA are determined to make the world a better place by purging it of themselves and not taking others with them........................ . . It is still a sad state of affairs, right? So Navy Dave thinks it'd be better that they commit murder before suicide? :twitch:Or that it's better for the terminally ill to suffer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10fttall Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 It is a pretty terrible thing to do, but probably not illegal. I mean he's not conning them into buying a worthless timeshare in Tahiti. It's a little more difficult to talk someone into killing themselves. If the people are dumb enough to kill themselves because of what some dude typed on the internet...well, how can I put this gently? They're probably going to get the wrong toppings on their burger one day, get distraught and off themselves anyway. Even if they wouldn't kill themselves anyway, someone who could be talked into killing themself is, at the very least, going to be a significant drain on the tax dollars of actual productive citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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