abdcskins Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Our bench and defense are extremely weak. That's the biggest issue if I had to generalize. Once our main scorers struggle the entire offense goes into a funk. Wall was the example tonight. Being on the west coast and not owning the NBA package, I didn't see this team play throughout the year. I'm just going off what I saw in the playoffs. And outside of our starting 5 we are weak. Oh and bigs....we don't have any. Porter is a free agent, right? Could've sworn I saw people talking about that earlier in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 First off... Chill out. Second, I bet KDawg is dancing around the house. Third, Would have been nice if the covered the spread...that was the weakest second half that I have seen in the playoffs from any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just now, abdcskins said: Our bench and defense are extremely weak. That's the biggest issue if I had to generalize. Once our main scorers struggle the entire offense goes into a funk. Wall was the example tonight. Being on the west coast and not owning the NBA package, I didn't see this team play throughout the year. I'm just going off what I saw in the playoffs. And outside of our starting 5 we are weak. Oh and bigs....we don't have any. Porter is a free agent, right? Could've sworn I saw people talking about that earlier in the thread. the bench had like a good 2 week stretch after the deadline, DATS IT. it was trash to start the year, trash to finish the year, trash in the playoffs. Grunfeld will still skate on Otto is a RFA, doesn't deserve the max, but somebody will offer it to him because the NBA is stupid no draft picks, no money otherwise to really improve the team. Stuck hoping that veterans will take less money to play here if they can't latch on to GSW/CLE/SAS and such 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Just gotta laugh at this point... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 It is the most consequential offseason for the Wizards in a long time. Grunfeld is not the guy to handle it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, bearrock said: It is the most consequential offseason for the Wizards in a long time. Grunfeld is not the guy to handle it. its not last summer was it, and Grunfeld wasted all of the money on that bench. We have to hold pat this summer, sadly. Summer of 2019, we have to make a run at Cousins. Thats our only path to an NBA title. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, bearrock said: It is the most consequential offseason for the Wizards in a long time. Grunfeld is not the guy to handle it. There is nothing we can realistically do. That's the shame of it. We have no cap space and we don't have a first round draft pick. We barely have any room under the luxury tax line. Otto is going to cost a chunk of change to keep and if we want to keep Bogdanovich, that should put us at the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, bearrock said: It is the most consequential offseason for the Wizards in a long time. Grunfeld is not the guy to handle it. grunfeld sold everything to keep his job (again), this offseason has no upside. The only decisions are signing Otto and Bog. The team has no cap space or draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: We have to hold pat this summer, sadly. Summer of 2019, we have to make a run at Cousins. Thats our only path to an NBA title. I think it'll take a better GM than Ernie to build a super team through free agency. Would you ever buy anything Ernie was selling? I can't see him winning a bidding war for these guys. I'm also not as enthusiastic about going after Cousins as I used to be. He'd be a constant source of stress and locker room tension. One of the things that's held us back in this Wall/Beal era is immaturity and a lack of... resolve. I would be afraid that a Wall/Beal/Cousins team would be a group of super talented underachievers. Paul George is the real prize of that free agency for me. He'd give us almost as much firepower as Cousins but he is a much better locker room guy and he can play awesome defense when he's dialed in. Then again, after seeing the level of play we got from our bigs post AS break, nobody could do more to improve our team net-net than getting a dominant big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I think it'll take a better GM than Ernie to build a super team through free agency. Would you ever buy anything Ernie was selling? I can't see him winning a bidding war for these guys. I'm also not as enthusiastic about going after Cousins as I used to be. He'd be a constant source of stress and locker room tension. One of the things that's held us back in this Wall/Beal era is immaturity and a lack of... resolve. I would be afraid that a Wall/Beal/Cousins team would be a group of super talented underachievers. Paul George is the real prize of that free agency for me. He'd give us almost as much firepower as Cousins but he is a much better locker room guy and he can play awesome defense when he's dialed in. Then again, after seeing the level of play we got from our bigs post AS break, nobody could do more to improve our team net-net than getting a dominant big. Paul George is a charlatan to me. He and Wall would clash on playing styles since they both want the ball. And George loves taking terrible shots. I am not as high on him as others are. I get the issues with Cousins maturity but he is a bully. And I think he would attempt to fit in here with Wall. But alas, no one is coming to DC because of Grunfeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Idk about ya'll, but I'm gonna start checking out some Mystics games. Curious about this "super team" thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: I get the issues with Cousins maturity but he is a bully. And I think he would attempt to fit in here with Wall. I think he probably would too. But I also don't love giving Wall someone he is probably going to have to babysit. He deserves a low maintenance big who can run with him and finish all of the bunnies that Wall would give him. Reason #5428 that Grunfeld should be fired: if he'd not panicked to try and keep his job last summer, we could have made a real run at Blake Griffin this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I think he probably would too. But I also don't love giving Wall someone he is probably going to have to babysit. He deserves a low maintenance big who can run with him and finish all of the bunnies that Wall would give him. Reason #5428 that Grunfeld should be fired: if he'd not panicked to try and keep his job last summer, we could have made a real run at Blake Griffin this summer. I dont think he would have to babysit Cousins. I feel you on Blake, but I feel Blake is done as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Whether to sign Otto at max or not is the million dollar question. Keep Otto at max and our framework is boxed in. Let Otto go, then we are taking a step back in hopes of finding a better 3rd piece to the puzzle. Neither choice is obvious and Grunfeld shouldn't be making that decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: Idk about ya'll, but I'm gonna start checking out some Mystics games. Curious about this "super team" thing. *searching mystics* This dime plays for them? I'm definitely interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yes he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, spjunkies said: *searching mystics* This dime plays for them? I'm definitely interested. she'd be more interested in your lady 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, bearrock said: Whether to sign Otto at max or not is the million dollar question. Keep Otto at max and our framework is boxed in. Let Otto go, then we are taking a step back in hopes of finding a better 3rd piece to the puzzle. Neither choice is obvious and Grunfeld shouldn't be making that decision. Unfortunately letting Otto walk doesn't really give us the flexibility to make any big moves. We're so far over the cap right now that even if Otto and Bojan both walk, we'll only have like 10 million dollars in cap space. That might get you a sixth man who is halfway decent. But not much else. Our only good option is to keep Otto and either hope he makes a leap like Wall and Beal did, or try and trade him further down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: she'd be more interested in your lady I wasn't going to say anything, I think she's married, too Edited May 16, 2017 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: I wasn't going to say anything, I think she's married, too Well, I enjoy the videos they produce on certain websites so.... In other news let Otto walk and is Ernie's contract up? He can go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Porter is not a max player.... Not even close. As I complained about it all season, the bench sucks. Bogs is a good piece, but you have to play him enough and use him correctly. Apparently, going by these playoffs, our team has never seen a pick before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Proud of my team. Looking forward to a great 2018 playoff run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 To add Porter is too small, does he hit the gym at all? Oubre is already much bigger and more physical than him. Let someone else make the mistake of handing him a max, especially if we have Oubre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Proud of my team. Looking forward to a great 2018 playoff run. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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