That Redskins Fan Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Player evaluations are complete and draft boards are set around the NFL as we enter the homestretch before the NFL draft, but the chatter is building surrounding possible trades, mostly concerning where QB Mark Sanchez will land. Things can change on a moment's notice at this point in the process, and only hours after my original projection appeared I was told by reliable sources that Seattle will pull the trigger on Sanchez at No. 4 overall. That will send ripples all the way down to the New York Jets at No. 17. The Jets seemed a good bet to trade up to No. 8 in order to take Sanchez but the price for getting him just got much steeper, and New York is likely headed back to the drawing board. Taking all that into account, here is Scouts Inc.'s updated first-round projection: 1. Detroit Lions (Record: 0-16): Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia Top three needs: QB, LOT, DE Stafford is the very clear choice for Detroit. Among the three players the Lions have said they are negotiating with, Stafford is at the top, Jason Smith would be the next choice if negotiations with Stafford break down, and Curry is a long shot. The Lions definitely want a deal in place with the top pick before the draft, and they definitely hope it's with Stafford. 2. St. Louis Rams (2-14): Jason Smith, OT, Baylor Top three needs: OT, WR, MLB Smith has the athleticism and tenacity of a premiere starting left tackle, which is priority No. 1 for St. Louis after it parted ways with Orlando Pace during the offseason. If Smith is on the board, it's hard to imagine the Rams going in any other direction. 3. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14): Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest Top three needs: Rush LB, DT, 3-4 DL Here's where it starts to get interesting. This pick is suddenly much more valuable given the fact that Sanchez is projected to come off the board at No. 4, but it remains to be seen whether any team will pay the huge price it would take to get ahead of Seattle. Curry is without question the best available player, but does he fit what the Chiefs are looking to do defensively as they move to a 3-4 look? I think Curry is just as valuable inside in a 3-4 as he is outside in a 4-3, but the one thing they don't get for certain is an impact pass-rusher off the edge. I think Kansas City goes with Curry, but if they go in a different direction it will likely be OT Eugene Monroe. 4. Seattle Seahawks (4-12): Mark Sanchez, QB, USC Top three needs: OLB, OT, S The Seahawks are clearly looking for the heir apparent to current starter Matt Hasselbeck, who has dealt with nagging injuries recently but likely has two or three more years in him. There are also questions about stud LT Walter Jones, who is coming off a serious knee injury, but selecting Sanchez will allow Seattle to eventually hand the reins from one franchise quarterback to another. 5. Cleveland Browns (4-12): Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech Top three needs: OLB, WR, CB With rumors of the Browns trading Braylon Edwards to the Giants picking up steam, it's looking more and more like they will use this pick on the premier playmaking wideout in this draft. I'm not a huge fan of spending a top-five pick on a wide receiver, but Crabtree certainly appears to be the real deal. If the trade doesn't go through or they decide to go in a different direction, look for the Browns to target an edge rusher like Brian Orakpo. 6. Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1): Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia Top three needs: OT, C, RB Monroe is the best pure pass-blocker in the draft and he makes sense for a team that has had trouble staying healthy up front and has invested significant money in QB Carson Palmer. 7. Oakland Raiders (5-11): Andre Smith, OT, Alabama Top three needs: OT, WR, DT There's a lot of talk about Smith falling because of the debacle he made of the pre-draft process, but when all is said and done, he's one of top three offensive tackles and there are too many teams in the top 10 searching for his kind of talent for him to fall very far. 8. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11): Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri Top three needs: WR, CB, DT The Jaguars had hoped to shop this pick to teams coveting Sanchez but that plan appears to be shot. However, in this scenario they are now able to fill their biggest need with one of the fastest, most explosive players in the draft. Maclin is a bit raw as a receiver but his speed is impessive and he can also contribute in the return game. 9. Green Bay Packers (6-10): B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College Top three needs: 3-4 OLB, 3-4 DL, OT Raji is the best player on the board at this point and would provide the Packers with a stout nose tackle in their new 3-4 defense. He has the size and strength to anchor against double-teams in the running game and the burst and quickness to collapse the pocket and get to the quarterback as a pass-rusher. 10. San Francisco 49ers (7-9): Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas Top three needs: ROT, QB, S Orakpo makes sense in this scenario because of his ability to provide pressure off the edge. I'm not convinced Orakpo is an ideal fit as a 3-4 OLB because he's a little stiff in his coverage drops, but he does have experience in that role and the 49ers could likely tailor a role for Orakpo that makes getting after the quarterback his primary goal. 11. Buffalo Bills (7-9): Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State Top three needs: Rush DE, C/G, TE The Bills' biggest need could be getting some help on the interior offensive line, but they are obviously not drafting a center or guard here. That's why I think they'll take advantage of the strong class of perimeter pass-rushers and take Maybin, who I believe is the best hybrid DE/OLB in the '09 class. He needs time to develop bulk and strength, but nobody has a quicker first step getting after the QB. 12. Denver Broncos (8-8): Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU Top three needs: QB, NT, 3-4 DE The interesting thing with Denver is that on paper, the Broncos need a quarterback. But even if Sanchez were to fall to the Broncos here I don't expect them to pull the trigger. This pick is all about the D-line for the Broncos. If Raji somehow slips, they'll cash in and grab him. If not, Denver will take the best five-technique DE (interior DE in a 3-4) in this year's class. 13. Washington Redskins (8-8): Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee Top three needs: DE, ROT, strong side LB There are three angles with the Redskins and this pick. One, if Sanchez falls, they take him. Two, they could mortgage their future and send draft picks to move up to take Sanchez. I'm not convinced they'll do it, but it certainly wouldn't be against Dan Snyder's style. Third, assuming Sanchez is gone, they go either with an offensive tackle or a defensive end. In this case, Ayers is the best value on the board among those two positions, and his combination of power and quickness would give the Redskins versatility at the position opposite Andre Carter. 14. New Orleans Saints (8-8): Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio State Top three needs: OLB, FS, RB Defense is where New Orleans needs the most upgrades, but there's a lot of buzz about the Saints taking Wells, whose downhill, powerful running style would be an ideal complement to the more versatile and explosive Reggie Bush. 15. Houston Texans (8-8): Brian Cushing, OLB, USC Top three needs: SS, NT, rush DE There's a high-percentage chance that Houston could trade back. This could be where a team like Philadelphia moves up for an offensive tackle. However, if the Texans get stuck here, there's no one available to address their top needs -- strong safety and nose tackle -- and Cushing is the best fit because Houston would give DeMeco Ryans a partner in crime against the run at the strongside linebacker. 16. San Diego Chargers (8-8): Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State Top three needs: ROT, RG, SS This is a luxury pick for the Chargers, and they certainly can use another playmaking presence in the secondary. Jenkins could serve a versatile role as a subpackage corner and ball-hawking safety next to Eric Weddle. He doesn't fit San Diego's top need of a right tackle, but Jenkins is a far better prospect than any tackle left on the board. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=4054682&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft09%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dmcshay_todd%26id%3d4054682 if the skins wan to get sanchez.. the price just got steeper it is now number three to get sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIXX99 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 McShay is really big on us getting Ayers. Oher is still on the board at our pick, take him. But no Sanchez! wooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Robert Ayers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=FR&v=PAR9Qb3liRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 have the redskins even had ayers in for a workout yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 everyone talks about Snyder's "style" but when was the last time one of these trades actually happened? The last few trades the Skins made brought it Brandon Lloyd, Tj Duckett, Erasmus James and Jason Taylor. Only Taylor was a big name and while they may have given up two picks they didn't exactly mortgage the future. I don't think they've actually traded up with just first rounder. They've traded down. They've traded back into the first round. In fact unless this guy's next pick Michael Oher I can see them trading next years first and their third this year to get back into first. After all Denver at 18 and Detroit at 20 would both be on their second picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANDWARF Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I hope they get Oher instead of Ayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Everette Brown is better, see for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ayers looks like a big BUSTTTTTTTTT, waiting to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 for somebody projected so high, Ayers certainly didn't produce much in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playsmart30 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 everyone talks about Snyder's "style" but when was the last time one of these trades actually happened? The last few trades the Skins made brought it Brandon Lloyd, Tj Duckett, Erasmus James and Jason Taylor. Only Taylor was a big name and while they may have given up two picks they didn't exactly mortgage the future. I don't think they've actually traded up with just first rounder. They've traded down. They've traded back into the first round. In fact unless this guy's next pick Michael Oher I can see them trading next years first and their third this year to get back into first. After all Denver at 18 and Detroit at 20 would both be on their second picks. trade up for JC, if i remember correct trade up for cooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 trade up for JC, if i remember correct trade up for cooley Campbell is what I'm talking about. THeir original pick was Carlos Rogers then they traded back into the first round. They did not trade up to a higher spot with their first pick. And Cooley was a third rounder not a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ayers like Sanchez is a one-year wonder. Seriously, Mock drafts are so stupid they're foolish. But we love em don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ayers like Sanchez is a one-year wonder. Seriously, Mock drafts are so stupid they're foolish. But we love em don't we? nah they just pass time between march madness and the NFL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegadeTK Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 sanchez that early? who is his agent bl#*ing to get his hype up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIXX99 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 sanchez that early? who is his agent bl#*ing to get his hype up? I'm not gonna complain. It means that Sanchez stays away from the Redskins locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I would hope they trade back if this is the scenario... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ayers like Sanchez is a one-year wonder. Seriously, Mock drafts are so stupid they're foolish. But we love em don't we? even in his 1 "productive" year, he didnt get many sacks at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm not gonna complain. It means that Sanchez stays away from the Redskins locker room. exactly, which is goal number one now. it used to be drafting a pass protector/rusher, but first we gotta hope our front office can't get their hands on Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Oher>Ayers. A dominant RT will be much more valuable than a Run Stuffing, but otherwise limited Pass Rushing DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'd rather have Oher if he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred7576 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Beani-e wells beani-e wells!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskeypeet Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 If Ayers is the choice I think fans need to set expectation accordingly. Seems to be a Philip Daniels type. So in other words don't expect a lot of sacks and be happy if he is a solid, contributing, starting caliber, run stuffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ayers looks like a big BUSTTTTTTTTT, waiting to happen... Totally agree. I would hate to see this one happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 As I've said in other threads ... this is the worst Draft in memory quality wise. After the top 5 or 6 you've got nothing but 2nd round projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 As I've said in other threads ... this is the worst Draft in memory quality wise. After the top 5 or 6 you've got nothing but 2nd round projects. Bingo. I've never seen such garbage at the 12-25 range. And unfortunately, we're stuck right on the cusp of it. Normally, the 13 gives you lots of quality options. Not this year. We're gonna get stuck paying top end money to a 2nd round "project" pick. No one is gonna want to trade up for our pick. There's no point. I'm thinking that might add to Snyder's desire to move up. He certainly can't move down, and there's pretty much overpriced junk left at 13, so why not move up and get a quality player? That being said, I hope it's not Sanchez. I would love them to move up and get Orakpo. Edit: The more I think about, the more disappointed I am thinking of this draft. It's really weak. Next year's gonna be loaded. But there just isn't that much talent at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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