Whiskeypeet

He left Washington for UCLA because they couldn't have a Yankoff backing up a Penix.

Falcons won the draft by picking Penix. I'm right and all should acknowledge the reality. With that, I will turn my attention to something I actually care about.

So what. That isn't what the draft is for. The draft is about setting the damn team up for the future. It was a good idea because Kirk is 35 and....nevermind. Why the hell am i fighting this fight?

Im totally baffled by this question. If Penix turns out to be a franchise QB at the age of 27, you think its a waste? It is the defining position for a franchise, how in the world would having a 27 year old franchise defining player be considered a horrid choice?

Are we really at the point where we decide not to draft good QBs because of the contract? Would we prefer not to have a good player at the most important position if we can't take advantage of the rookie deal? I suspect that isn't what anyone would prefer.

He isn't sitting 4-5 years, we both know that. Kirk won't play 5 more years, and the only reason Penix isn't playing by then will because he isn't any good. Age won't the issue.

All good, IMO the position is what matters most and securing it long term s/b every team's objective. Think the Falcons did that here.

Doesn't matter to us, but don't agree about Penix. That was a good pick IMO and they had the QBs rated appropriately.

Had we made the trade with Philadelphia, would have selected Kingsley & Paul with those picks.

Surprised Westover is still available at TE. Good player for the Huskies, hope we take a look in UDFA.

I had a rage post yesterday with similar thoughts, draft feels like the FO is treating next year as a punt. If that is indeed the case, I'm actually fine with it given the rebuild that is clearly necessary. I do think the later second round picks could have been spent on OTs. Kingsley, Rosengarten, and Paul went within 10 picks (or so) of both those picks, obviously the NFL felt those guys were worthy in that range. Have to concede trust to the decision makers in our FO, perhaps they didn't feel that same or believed they were selecting superior prospects.

Yep, there he goes. Disaster for this FO. Not loving this off season at all unless it is a complete pass on trying to be competitive. FA didn't make sense and passing on value dindn't either, fells like Ron is in charge. Hate it.

Falcons redeemed!?!!?

Weird take, Wiley is bad so that is certain, what has Lucas done to give you confidence on a season long anchor at LT? This ins't about the draft, draft is about BPA, its about FA and where they didn't move the cheese. FA was blown just like with Ron, maybe it was out of their hands (i.e., facilities suck, DC sucks, whatever). Nonetheless a bad situation and there went Paul. Edit: I would take Kingsley.

THIS, why not take the obvious BPA. I swear to god this whole thing feels like Ron is charge starting w/FA. Why couldn't we have given Jonah Williams a $15M contract for 2 years, hell $25M over 2. I'm in pain.

So are you not sure he isn't the BPA? Or are you he sure he is not the BPA?

Please start over and redo this with the sex ed analogy.

We can disagree here, its good. I think Penix has a higher floor and ceiling. But don't disagree with the injury risk, can't be dismissed. Notwithstanding, he's been healthy for 2 straight years and might have that behind him. Nonetheless, the injuries happened so they must be considered. No way i would take him at 2.

Great post, and I agree with you about Maye, Prefer him myself. But you are off base about Penix's injuries. He is healthy now and has been the last 2 years. His injuries all occurred while he was at Indiana and he hasn't had an issue since then. To say he has rarely finished a season healthy is just false. Well, if thats the limit of the package for trading down, I'd not do it and take Maye. Really don't want any part of Daniels, although I can see his floor might not be poor. Again, prefer Penix of the prospects but part of that is definitely the value that would be added from the trade down. If the value in the trade isn't there, the move is questionable for me.

Agreed, the trade down is unlikely. Personally, I'd love it if it were a move down to get in place for Penix. I think he will be the best of the bunch. My feeling is that his injury risks are outweighed by the fact he is already a processor and talented pocket passer. They all have bust risk, his in my opinion is less. I'd do it because I think he's the best prospect and the team would get the draft haul. To be clear, I'd expect the trade down compensation to be MASSIVE.

I suspect the talent wanting Raiders hitting eject on him is all we need to know. Pretty sure the new FO isn't (and shouldn't be) interested in cats like him.

The are taking Caleb if they don't trade. And the only reason they trade (obviously) is if Caleb pulls an Elway. I agree w/you, this talk is silly.....Caleb is going to be a Bear.

I know....I know....I'm clearly triggered by o-line issues and perhaps have unrealistic expectations here. Really don't want to see our rookie get shell shocked, would rather he sits for a year....or at least part of the year until we see what our new coaches and o-line additions have to offer. There really isn't much juice left in FA market for tackles at this point, so its probably only getting fixed through the draft, trade, or finding a FA diamond that's off the radar.

Well, we see it the same way. I don't hate the FO's efforts to improve the team, but I'm skeptical the additions will actually mean anything in the long term and very concerned we haven't staged the rook for success. For what its worth, can't understand why we shouldn't overpay for Smith to protect the rook. The draft capital is there to maybe get some guys, but why risk it? Even if we can get the LT/RT latent in the second, let them sit or play them when Smith gets hurt. Make him an offer he cant refuse, we have the cap.

Long respect, but don't understand this at all. If they have any intention of starting a rookie a QB, the plan so far feels like a disaster. I'd do pretty much anything to give short term protection to the rookie instead of working on the defense or anything else. The rookie QB is what matters, that's it and that's all. If there isn't a definitive plan to cure the o-line, this feels like Ron is in control. I don't like it at all. Would have much rather overpaid for a mid talent like Jonah Williams to help, he got a very palatable 2 year deal as it is with Arizona.