ECU-ALUM Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25530608 I may not have agreed with him on a lot of issues, but I admire that he was willing to take a stand and stick to it. Prayers to his family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25530608I may not have agreed with him on a lot of issues, but I admire that he was willing to take a stand and stick to it. Prayers to his family and friends. Agreed. RIP Jesse. I hope I make it to that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Mr. President, in light of the comments by the Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. Kennedy), it is important that there be such an examination of the political activities and associations of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., principally from the beginning of his work in the civil rights movement in the mid 1950s until his death in 1968. Throughout this period, but especially toward the beginning and end of his career, King associated with identified members of the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA), with persons who were former members of or close to the CPUSA, and with CPUSA front organizations. In some important respects King's civil rights activities and later his opposition to the Vietnam war were strongly influenced by and dependent on these associations. There is no evidence that King himself was a member of the CPUSA or that he was a rigorous adherent of Marxist ideology or of the Communist Party line. Nevertheless, King was repeatedly warned about his associations with known Communists by friendly elements in the Kennedy Administration and the Department of Justice (DO J) (including strong and explicit warning from President Kennedy himself). King took perfunctory and deceptive measures to separate himself from the Communists against whom he was warned. He continued to have close and secret contacts with at least some of them after being informed and warned of their background, and he violated a commitment to sever his relationships with identified Communists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Maybe the most disgusting political ad in American History: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Maybe the most disgusting political ad in American History: You know if you can't say anything nice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I'm with you LKB. Helms was not someone I'd be too proud of. You know if you can't say anything nice.... If Jesse ever followed this, I'd agree. But he was a hate filled bigot who never ever missed a chance to prove it. Good riddance. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 You know if you can't say anything nice.... Normally, I subscribe to that. I said nice things about Reagan, Nixon, hell...even Strom Thurmond. With most politicians, there is another side to them. Helms was awful all the way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Wait so are we suppose to mourn the passing of a piece of **** bigot? Please...good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 that sorry **** is sweating his ass off now.... where he is........ my question?..... what took so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 i wish he would have lived another 7 months just so he could get a glimpse of a black president..........THAT would have been justice...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 And nothing of value was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Can't say that I'm sorry to see the sack of **** go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 no mr helms.... you MAY NOT..... have a glass of ice water....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 What's the difference between the a-holes commenting here and Jesse Helms? So what if some of our country is made up of hate-filled-bigots? Does that make the people who speak of "tolerance" uncomfortable? I just read his Wikipedia page and he sounds like a colorful guy who wouldn't care about what was being written on this thread... at least he didn't pretend to be something that he wasn't. His largest margin of victory was 54-46... so he wasn't overwhelmingly popular at all. If you want to talk about any why don't you talk about how the North Carolina electorate must be filled with a bunch of racist, bigoted, jerks... because that's who they sent to represent them. I'm glad we have the first amendment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 What's the difference between the a-holes commenting here and Jesse Helms? The difference? I never cut AIDS funding because I hate queers. I never stirred up hatred of black people to get elected. I never endorsed segregation. I never called civil rights leaders Communists and perverts. I never told the President to bring a bodyguard if he visited my state. That's the freaking difference. I don't hate Jesse Helms because of his beliefs. Hell, any jagoff can believe what they want. I hate Jesse Helms because of the actions he took based on his beliefs. We are a worse country today because Jesse Helms was in the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Here's some reading on Jesse Helms: Sen. Jesse Helms says the government should spend less money on people with AIDS because they got sick as a result of "deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct," The New York Times reported Wednesday. Helms, who has often spoken of his disgust for homosexuals, spoke to the Times as the Senate considers whether to renew a federal program for the care and treatment of AIDS patients. "We've got to have some common sense about a disease transmitted by people deliberately engaging in unnatural acts," Helms told the Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 sad thing is he is going to be an american hero in a year or 2...... yup they will make him into a national hero just like they did reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I doubt anyone makes him into an American hero... I'm "trying" to defend him but don't care to put too much of a fight up, other than to say he's from a different time in America. I'd bet you'd still find support (30-35%) for people who don't think our government should not work on curing AIDS, and more support for those against racial quotes (hey, haven't a lot of courts ruled against racial quotas?). However, it seems like his heart was in the "I don't like black people" and "I don't like homosexuals" realm instead of some realm regarding the use of government... which is why I referred to him as an a-hole... the fact that he's in power just makes him an F5 a-hole instead of some of the comments here which make you look like F1 aholes. I didn't pay attention to politics back in the time he ruled a lot, but I'd be Bang or others would probably have more to say in that realm... things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 sad thing is he is going to be an american hero in a year or 2...... yup they will make him into a national hero just like they did reagan I'm sorry...I know you're a bleeding heart liberal but that's just a stupid comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 sad thing is he is going to be an american hero in a year or 2...... yup they will make him into a national hero just like they did reagan :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: too bad your serious otherwise thats some funny **** right there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 which is why I referred to him as an a-hole... the fact that he's in power just makes him an F5 a-hole instead of some of the comments here which make you look like F1 aholes. What is the proper way to acknowledge an unrepetant bigot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Wow, some real classy people on this board. :doh: I guess it's going to be open season when Ted Kennedy kicks the bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 im not a "bleeding heart liberal' although yes i am liberal to the core.... however the comparison isnt in the people it is in the way that someone can be hated....... as reagan was... or do you not remember?......... and we turn them into a hero when they get sick or die...... reagan was successful at breaking the ussr and that is his legacy ........ people just forget the death squads he sent to central america and the middle east my statement wasnt so much a cut on reagan as it was stating how we have short memories and seem to promote the legacy of our leaders in their death..... i cant wait to find out what that piece of **** helms was a hero for...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Wow, some real classy people on this board. :doh: I guess it's going to be open season when Ted Kennedy kicks the bucket. kennedy has spent a lifetime in servitude for people and so far as i know never took stands against races and sexual orientation and such personal matters to the extent that helms has...... kennedy is currently suffering HIS karma....... just as helms is burning the **** up right now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 kennedy is currently suffering HIS karma....... So you're going to rejoice when he dies? You know, for killing that girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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