Koolblue13 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/02/28/ST2008022803016.html I thought this was a fairly alarming trend for the greatest nation. We are failing somewhere when 1% of your population is in jail. I won't be on much today, but am curious as to everybodies take on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helptheSKINS Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Direct result of the lack of values being taught at home and in school. Two income homes don't help either not that most families can help it. Less parent involvement leads to more bad seeds. It will get worse before better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 My first take is that the War on Drugs is a remarkably stupid policy that creates an ever larger and more hardened criminal class. My second take is that incarcerating this large of a percentage of the population is a very, very, VERY expensive thing to do. End the war on drugs and watch your taxes fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 I agree about the WoD debacle. I also found it interesting that it states the increase in Fed adding to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Maybe we could introduce Fryday Fridays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Chris Core was talking about this earlier. He wanted to know why the percentages were these: 1 in 15 blacks (1 in 9 between the age of 20-34) 1 in 36 Hispanics 1 in a lot for whites. Is it that blacks commit more crimes, get caught more, have an unfair trial, are arrested by bigots, etc... I don't know the answer. We have way too many people in jail. Is it the price for freedom? Is the war on drugs a bad deal? Is it an industry that employees too many people? Think about it, from police to prison guards to the courts to the parole officers to the people that build and run the prisons. It's it's own industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamingwolf Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 simple solution, more executions and speedier executions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 hmmm. You mean the manadatroy minimums aren't acting as a deterent? shocking, just shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 We need to put more people like Marion Jones and Micheal Vick in jail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Direct result of the lack of values being taught at home and in school. I think it's more of a direct result of ridiculous drug laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 No surprise given some states spend more on their jails than schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Higher jail sentence for crack instead of cocaine. This is what I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 My first take is that the War on Drugs is a remarkably stupid policy that creates an ever larger and more hardened criminal class.My second take is that incarcerating this large of a percentage of the population is a very, very, VERY expensive thing to do. End the war on drugs and watch your taxes fall. "You called it a war . . . it's not a war . . . wars end." - Carver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefhogskin48 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Keep the criminals in prison. It keeps the crime rates down (see the 90's and early 2000's). 99.9% of them are there because, they're, well, criminals. <waiting for people to scold me for my insensitivity> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I think it's more of a direct result of ridiculous drug laws. I do not agree with all of the drug laws but this DOES go back to values taught at home. Just b/c you dont agree with a law, that doesnt give you the right to break it. Children should be taught that this is wrong, no matter what. You cant pick and choose what laws to adhere to and which ones not, no matter how trivial they are. If people are stupid enough to break the drug laws because they dont want to follow the rules, then boo freaking hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Force Cane Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Probably need 2% of the population in prison. That would leave us with 297 million law abiding citizens- free to run their lives without worrying about the predators amongst us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manleyistheman Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 That tells me that prisons are a business and business is good...too good as far as I'm concerned. I point to Predicto's point on the WoD as a prime example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 simple solution, more executions and speedier executions. You should check out John Grisham's book The Innocent Man Quite frankly I think it should be mandatory reading for anyone who supports the death penalty in this country, which from polls appears to be 90% of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Prisions need to become rehibilitation center. This means less violence/crime in prisions. That requires some real mechanism to enforce the law in prisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The prison industry has grown unchecked just as any other government program has. They take the program, and run it like a monopoly. Not until something happens do we then look to see what the hell is going on and demand change. No one's watching the ball except for the people running the show. Of course it's going to get out of hand. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 How about they start showing the HBO series OZ to high schoolers? If this doesnt deter you then you are just asking for it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Prisions need to become rehibilitation center. This means less violence/crime in prisions. That requires some real mechanism to enforce the law in prisions. I would be okay with true rehabilitation, for those who have shown that they are treatable. (for the record, sociopaths are unable to be treated) I would ALSO be in favor of making prison such an unpleasant place that nobody wants to go. One or the other. Rehabilitation or (true) Punishment. Right now, in this country, we have a compromise of the two. Which is the WORST possible thing we could have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paige3girl Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 We need to put more people like Marion Jones and Micheal Vick in jail! okay... two very different crimes and I don't think they should be compared as criminals. Jones was only hurting herself, however Vick was hurting other beings. I agree that drugs are the main root of this mess and that this country has got to invest more resources in fighting the drug war to see a change in this epidemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 okay... two very different crimes and I don't think they should be compared as criminals. Jones was only hurting herself, however Vick was hurting other beings. I agree that drugs are the main root of this mess and that this country has got to invest more resources in fighting the drug war to see a change in this epidemic. When you say that you "agree", who are you agreeing with? The drug war itself is the root cause of this mess. Investing more resources in the drug war will make the mess even larger. Prohibition never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Thats All?? Build more prisons, bring back chain gangs make them part of the local infrasctructure where it comes to Agriculture, repairing roads like Georgia used to do back in the Day heck we can use them to build the border fences. Are they including illegal alien criminals??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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