Burgold Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The article has a funny premise, but it needs a bigger gotcha moment. Art's goof or comeupence was a let down. If you're going to wait two years to catch someone, find something bigger or better. Everyone knows that Art makes tons of mistakes all the time. Big mistakes. Huge mistakes. Especially, when he used to post in the Tailgate on politics. In the Stadium, I still remember him saying that Ramsey was a more accurate and athletic quarterback than Steve Young. No one could convince him otherwise either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neophyte Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 News flash Dave, Nunyo gets paid for his work. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 For years, he’s used both roles to attack any member of the mainstream media who didn’t write that the ownership and coaching and personnel and grounds crew and stadium and parking attendants and catering service were the best in the NFL. or ES members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 What a douche. I AM surprised that Art forgot the ST hit was on 3rd down, not 4th down. The much-maligned Walt Harris made the 4th down stop on Terry Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themurf Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 The perfect irony of it all is that Nunyo is probably using copies of McKenna's work to stay warm after being let go at Sports Illustrated. Funny world we live in, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleese Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 ouch I think...a drama bomb from DH3. Die Hard Says: Dec. 8, 2007, at 12:00 am Here is the greatest irony Dave. Every single time you write about Arthur Mills (and you’ve done so repeatedly in the past few years), all you do is perpetuate the problem. Having known Art since 1999 (The Redskins TSN board)… and bringing him aboard as an ExtremeSkins moderator following it’s inception… Art is exactly what people have created him. He craves attention, drama, confrontation and celebrity. I don’t begrudge Art for what he is… how can I? He isn’t even responsible for it. People give in willingly. I remember when Art was nothing more than an anonymous moderator on a private, self-made website. But the story was never the Redskins, the fans, the community, the people who sacrificed and labored for something they believed in, for the greater good - a feel good story. Nope, the story has always been about Art Mills. Bravo Dave. Wow. I had no clue there were those kinds of feelings. Very "Days of Our Lives-esque." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmiJo Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dave Mckenna can ~mod edit~please don't post that again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I don't think Tony is saying anything out of the ordinary or wrong. It is reasonably remarkable how much attention the media pays. The difference between Dave and I is he reads my work and we only see his when someone links it here. Must be frustrating for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 ouch I think...a drama bomb from DH3. Die Hard Says: Dec. 8, 2007, at 12:00 am Here is the greatest irony Dave. Every single time you write about Arthur Mills (and you’ve done so repeatedly in the past few years), all you do is perpetuate the problem. Having known Art since 1999 (The Redskins TSN board)… and bringing him aboard as an ExtremeSkins moderator following it’s inception… Art is exactly what people have created him. He craves attention, drama, confrontation and celebrity. I don’t begrudge Art for what he is… how can I? He isn’t even responsible for it. People give in willingly. I remember when Art was nothing more than an anonymous moderator on a private, self-made website. But the story was never the Redskins, the fans, the community, the people who sacrificed and labored for something they believed in, for the greater good - a feel good story. Nope, the story has always been about Art Mills. Bravo Dave. After seeing a number of Die Hard's posts and thoughts, I get the feeling that he's disgruntled about everything this site has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Wow, talk about out of left field...strange timing. . I liked Art's piece on Sean, and didn't catch the mistake. I don't think it took away from the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 All I can think, is poor Califan, unknowingly opening Pandora's Box and all. Good thing I've been 100% correct in every post I've ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I don't see anything wrong with DH's post. If he doesnt like the direction, he doesn't like the direction. That said, I don't think there was anything dramatic about Art there at all. He pointed out McKenna's stories are about Art moreso than the team, the fans, etc. I don't see that as an attack or drama of any sort other than calling McKenna a fraud without outright saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 After seeing a number of Die Hard's posts and thoughts, I get the feeling that he's disgruntled about everything this site has become. What's been lost here more than anything else is the site's sense of humor. We always had our knuckleheads and debbie downers. We always had our blind optimists and shushers. But what we used to be able to do a lot more back in the day was laugh together or share a silly thought. Now a days, the tone is so serious and dark for the most part. Everything is frequently so dark and dramatic. And it's certainly not about the 'skins and their winning or losing. We managed to laugh during Spurrier, or during Marty's 0-5 disaster. Maybe it's that we're so big that we don't know each other. or maybe we're just too intimidated by Art to dare a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I don't care what anyone says. Dave McKenna's got skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XfOJTqRTDc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dave Mckenna can lick my cracker ass. ya know, i got suspended for about the same type of post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte51Coleman Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 After seeing a number of Die Hard's posts and thoughts, I get the feeling that he's disgruntled about everything this site has become. He's far from the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Redskin Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 ya know, i got suspended for about the same type of post. Yeah there is certainly a double standard. That is for sure. Too bad this isn't a democracy or half the staff would be on the outside by now.... prolly for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 You know, I hate to say it, but it's a priviledge to be able to post here, not a right. Is everything the staff doing correct? Probably not. But YOU'RE making the choice to stay here, for whatever reason. Complaining won't fix it. It is the way it is. I'm not saying it's wrong to have gripes, but if there's anything I've learned in my short life, complaining doesn't solve problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberOsaka Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 The difference between Dave and I is he reads my work and we only see his when someone links it here. Very true. I received an email from Dave thanking me for increasing his readership by 2000 % by posting the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Holding a guy who's a glorified poster (sorry Art) to the same standard as a paid journalist is obviously off-base. Art has a history in sports journalism, but he's not a sports journalist here. Whatever occasional comments he makes in a 'fan blog' are subject to the editing of the redskin's web staff. I think there is a salient point in Mckenna's attack, in that back in the day, when Art was in full-blown Nunyo assault mode, he ripped him for even the most minor, trivial of errors. Some of them were about as significant as the one he's getting nailed here for. The difference being, he's an internet poster, not a writer. Thats just a fact. Pretty silly stuff, and picking that particular piece of writing to try and spark a dead pissing contest reeks of insensitivity. As for this site being about any one guy? Some might think it is, but give me a break, lots of people, hundreds of key members, made this site what it is (whether you like what it is or not). Art, nor anyone else (save maybe Die Hard himself, or Blade in the early days) can really take any credit for it. That it even comes up as an issue is pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I think there is a salient point.... 50 bonus points for big words tarhog.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I think there is a salient point....50 bonus points for big words tarhog.. 7 letters. Maybe your frontal lobe (I mean 'brain') just ain't big enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 7 letters. Maybe your frontal lobe (I mean 'brain') just ain't big enough wow theres a loss of 100 for being negative when getting a compliment. i meant big as in not common. not big as in how many letters. did you know that the longest word you can type with just your left hand from home row is stewardesses? hows that for a big brain sucka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 He's far from the only one. Understandably. But there is a positive side to it. It controls my addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 wow theres a loss of 100 for being negative when getting a compliment.i meant big as in not common. not big as in how many letters. did you know that the longest word you can type with just your left hand from home row is stewardesses? hows that for a big brain sucka? Mmmm. I like stewardesses. I think we found some common ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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