ceviker Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hey guys, Sitting here wondering about something. If Joe Gibbs wins another Super Bowl, will he go down in history as the best coach ever? I know that is a very bold statement, but think about it. He's already a HOF coach. What he did in the 80s/early 90s was unbelievable. 3 super bowls, 3 different quaterbacks. If he wins one more, he will have won 4 Super Bowls, with 4 different QBs, in 2 COMPLETLY different eras. IMO, that would make him the greatest coach ever in the NFL. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yes he will. I think everyone knows that though. He'll already go down as top 5 coaches of all time. Another super bowl, and only Lombardi's name will be able to be mentioned in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 pretty much agree... he would be the greatest ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not the best ever IMO, but certainly one of the best. The guy's in the HOF for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not the best ever IMO, but certainly one of the best. The guy's in the HOF for a reason. You'd have to put someone above him. Parcells, Vermeil, Jimmy Johnson - none of those guys can match 4 super bowls with 4 quarterbacks. Even Lombardi can't - but of course Lombardi will always be a legend. If not THE best, you could only put Lombardi above Gibbs. That's the only position for which you could possibly make a valid argument that Gibbs isn't the best coach ever if he wins another SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk show host Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Not the best ever IMO, but certainly one of the best. The guy's in the HOF for a reason. I agree. He should be a top 10 coach on EVERYONE's List and a top 5 for most. IMO, Bellycheck is the best NFL coach of all time up until now. If Gibbs had never made a comeback, he would have had a much stronger argument to be THE best. However, his failure (up until now) has tarnished his image, no matter how much people hate to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I think it would be tough to dethrone mythical icons like Lombardi and Halas. But if Joe is able to pull off another Super Bowl, he catapaults right up there with those legendary giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Al Saunders runs the offense, Gregg Williams runs the Defense. Joe Gibbs gave up draft picks to bring in Brunell. No, I don't think so. Even if we do win a superbowl with him on the coaching staff. He was a great coach... 20 years ago. He will always be remembered as a great coach. But right now he's not much more than a figurehead. He brings a modicum of respectability and class to a franchise that had otherwise lost its direction entirely, but as far as his football mind is concerned it's not doing us much good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Kao Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't think another Super Bowl win with yet another QB will make him the best of all time.... But it *will* make him the best of the Super Bowl era!!! As others have said, there are some legendary coaches from prior to the SB era (and the early years of that era) that Gibbs will never dethrone. Now, I do have a scenario that will definitely enshrine Gibbs as Lombardi's equal..... If something (GOD FORBID) happens to Campbell this year, and we go the rest of the way and win the SB with Brunell, then Gibbs will definitely deserve to be placed on a pedestal right beside Lombardi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I don't think so. Outside of the D.C. area Coach Gibbs will not surpass Bill Walsh based on his sucess and design of the west coast offense and overall impact on the game. Definitely in the top three in the modern era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Now, I do have a scenario that will definitely enshrine Gibbs as Lombardi's equal..... If something (GOD FORBID) happens to Campbell this year, and we go the rest of the way and win the SB with Brunell, then Gibbs will definitely deserve to be placed on a pedestal right beside Lombardi! If that happened, forget his coaching legacy. That would be the miracle required by the Church to elevate him to sainthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishGangsta Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 I remember Dallas fans saying a couple years back that if Gibbs won another Super Bowl he would be up there at the top of the list w/ Parcells I forget which Boys fan said that, but it was one of our resident members -- Now I think they're going w/ a more "Landry friendly" argument. But I think if Gibbs was able to win SuperBowls in two different eras, that would definitely set him apart from the rest in my opinion, if he hasn't already separated himself from the pack by winning with 3 different quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Are you guys crazy? Gibbs already top-five hands down. People keep saying "Top Ten" or "Up there", but who the hell is above him? That guy from New England? I want to see his record WITHOUT Brady and see what he did. Oh, that's right, nothing. It's pretty easy to have the second coming of Montana on your team and win. In fact, it's pretty HARD not to. Parcells? Yeah, right. Walsh? You've got an argument. Lombardi? The trophy's named after him for a reason. But THREE Super Bowls with THREE different quarterbacks and THREE different running backs, and if he wins again, FOUR of each? He took castoffs and no-namers and won those games, not Tom effing Brady or Terry Bradshaw. THAT is coaching. He got his guys for his system, not just the All-Madden team. You guys need to think before you type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 IMO Joe Gibbs is already the best coach in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Are you guys crazy? Gibbs already top-five hands down. People keep saying "Top Ten" or "Up there", but who the hell is above him? If you care to debate NewCliche's point, here's a starting point. . . Gibbs is one of 21 coaches in the Hall of Fame: George Allen 1966-1977 Paul Brown 1946-1962 Guy Chamberlin # 1922-1927 Jimmy Conzelman # 1921-30, 1940-42, 1946-48 Weeb Ewbank 1954-1973 Ray Flaherty # 1936-1949 Joe Gibbs 1981-1992 Sid Gillman 1955-1969, 1971-1974 Bud Grant 1967-1983, 1985 George Halas # 1920-29, 1933-42, 1946-67 Earl (Curly) Lambeau # 1919-1953 Tom Landry 1960-1988 Marv Levy 1978-1982, 1986-1997 Vince Lombardi 1959-1967, 1969 John Madden 1969-1978 Earle (Greasy) Neale 1941-1950 Chuck Noll 1969-1991 Steve Owen # 1930-1953 Don Shula 1963-1995 Hank Stram 1960-1974, 1976-1977 Bill Walsh 1979-1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishGangsta Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 "Up there", Hey guy, of course I think Gibbs is one of the top 5 coaches in NFL history; I was being sarcastic about the being "up there" w/ Bill Parcells comment, appearently you didn't get it, but it was a joke based off of what I've read from Cowboy fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Clearly a 4th SB would make him the greatest of the modern era. If we had won in 83, he'd already likely have that honor, and the Skins, not the Niners, would've been regarded as the team of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugewhite94 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 hands down GIBBS will equal G.O.A.L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 If you care to debate NewCliche's point, here's a starting point. . .Gibbs is one of 21 coaches in the Hall of Fame: George Allen 1966-1977 Paul Brown 1946-1962 Guy Chamberlin # 1922-1927 Jimmy Conzelman # 1921-30, 1940-42, 1946-48 Weeb Ewbank 1954-1973 Ray Flaherty # 1936-1949 Joe Gibbs 1981-1992 Sid Gillman 1955-1969, 1971-1974 Bud Grant 1967-1983, 1985 George Halas # 1920-29, 1933-42, 1946-67 Earl (Curly) Lambeau # 1919-1953 Tom Landry 1960-1988 Marv Levy 1978-1982, 1986-1997 Vince Lombardi 1959-1967, 1969 John Madden 1969-1978 Earle (Greasy) Neale 1941-1950 Chuck Noll 1969-1991 Steve Owen # 1930-1953 Don Shula 1963-1995 Hank Stram 1960-1974, 1976-1977 Bill Walsh 1979-1988 Thanks for posting this. I think if you are going to debate the order, you would need to break it down in to eras. You wouldn't necessarily compare Curly Lambeau to Bill Walsh. Two completely different eras and a completely different game with different athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePreciating Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Al Saunders runs the offense, Gregg Williams runs the Defense. Joe Gibbs gave up draft picks to bring in Brunell. No, I don't think so. Even if we do win a superbowl with him on the coaching staff. He was a great coach... 20 years ago. He will always be remembered as a great coach. But right now he's not much more than a figurehead. He brings a modicum of respectability and class to a franchise that had otherwise lost its direction entirely, but as far as his football mind is concerned it's not doing us much good. Well if Super Bowls don't make you a great coach, I don't know what does. I'm surprised you actually think this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins PR Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Bill Walsh and Lombardi are and would still be the greatest of all time. Unfortunately Gibbs II is going to have its 3rd losing season this year so Joe's place in history is only declining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C26 Run Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 He'll be the greatest Redskins HC but for the league he'll be one of the greatest. Vince Lombardi, Bill Belichick, and Bill Walsh are the only ones I'd give the edge to over Gibbs. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogs87 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 It's amazing how no one mentioned the coach with the most Super Bowls out of Everyone. Chuck Noll has 4 Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hands down! No other coach would be able to boast that feat. Especially for the same franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Yes he will. I think everyone knows that though. He'll already go down as top 5 coaches of all time. Another super bowl, and only Lombardi's name will be able to be mentioned in the same sentence. I'd have to argue that Bill Walsh would be espoused in that same vein as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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