Is anyone else besides me, uncomfortable with Barak Obama becoming our next Pres.?

[The Evil Genius]

Your statement is insane.What if the person can't afford it out of pocket as yourself? I guess SOL for them right?

As the current rate of increase in medical costs - that will soon be a lot of us.

[Midnight Judges]

Absolutely. It's happens every time the Socialist agenda wins out.

As liberal as I am on so many social issues, the economics of Democrats/Socialism always prevents me from taking the plunge.

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Perhaps you should learn the definition of socialism, that might change your stance. Same for you Kilmer.

[Hooper]

You know guys I have an idea:

Why not stop posting opinions on a guy you know nothing about, and instead using that time to actually answer some of your questions about the guy.

The thread was started by a guy that can't support Barak because he's muslim. The problem with that opinion being that he is not a muslim. These are the kinds of things that can be prevented if you take 5 minutes to read up a bit. A good start is to visit his site and find the "about" page that every candidate has. The last line would have cleared up the whole muslim thing: "His wife, Michelle, and his two daughters, Malia, 8, and Sasha, 5, live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ"

Presonally I haven't heard enough from Obama to make an opinion, but I don't like his stance on the war. We'll see about the rest of it.

Come on, Destino. That's too much work. It's much easier to listen to Air America or watch Fox news and have them tell you what to think about a certain candidate.

[Air Force Cane]

Barack Hussein Obama:

Muslim father

Muslim step-father

raised in Indonesia and Hawaii

law school professor at liberal U of Chicago

liberal and undistinguised state senator from Illinois

walked into office against Alan Keyes in US Senate race

less than two years legislative experience

-ZERO executive experience

-ZERO jobs created in private sector

sounds like just the kind of hard nosed warrior we need to take on Al Qaeda

if he was white he would have the same media coverage as Dennis Kucinich.

[zoony]

Perhaps you should learn the definition of socialism, that might change your stance. Same for you Kilmer.

Oh that's rich coming from a music major :laugh:

I can look directly to Europe's rotting cesspool of economic decay, as well as the failed Economic social princibles implemented in other countries just fine.

I can also look to the United State's rise to global Economic domination, and figure out just how ignorant one might have to be to make a statement such as the one you just made.

Maybe you should spend less time accusing others of being ignorant, and more time looking in the mirror. :whoknows:

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[Thanos]

Barack Hussein Obama:

Muslim father

Muslim step-father

raised in Indonesia and Hawaii

law school professor at liberal U of Chicago

liberal and undistinguised state senator from Illinois

walked into office against Alan Keyes in US Senate race

less than two years legislative experience

-ZERO executive experience

-ZERO jobs created in private sector

sounds like just the kind of hard nosed warrior we need to take on Al Qaeda

if he was white he would have the same media coverage as Dennis Kucinich.

Cant wait for the election .

[Zen-like Todd]

Barack Hussein Obama:

Muslim father

Muslim step-father

raised in Indonesia and Hawaii

law school professor at liberal U of Chicago

liberal and undistinguised state senator from Illinois

walked into office against Alan Keyes in US Senate race

less than two years legislative experience

-ZERO executive experience

-ZERO jobs created in private sector

sounds like just the kind of hard nosed warrior we need to take on Al Qaeda

if he was white he would have the same media coverage as Dennis Kucinich.

1) He's Christian. Throwing out the word Muslim just makes us ignore you as a troll.

2) The University of Chicago is the home of the Chicago school of economics... that is to say, neoclassical.

3) He has 10 years of legislative experience, in addition to teaching law, and heading the Harvard Law Review.

4) If that's the best you can do, you might as well pack up and go home.

[zoony]

Oh yah, here's Webster's definition Kilmer. You really should study up, because disagreeing with Midnight Judges could only mean that you're ignorant in all things economic. I'll do some studying as well!

Main Entry: so·cial·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

Function: noun

Date: 1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Your statement is insane.What if the person can't afford it out of pocket as yourself? I guess SOL for them right?

Yes. So far as I'm concerned Health Care is a PRIVLEDGE, not a right. On a personal level, I would rather die than accept monies and assistance from the government.

[HSW]

1) He's Christian. Throwing out the word Muslim just makes us ignore you as a troll.

2) The University of Chicago is the home of the Chicago school of economics... that is to say, neoclassical.

3) He has 10 years of legislative experience, in addition to teaching law, and heading the Harvard Law Review.

4) If that's the best you can do, you might as well pack up and go home.

You are just now learning that AFC is a troll? :laugh: If you skip past

the 5 daily threads he puts up there are actually some good

ones posted in this forum.

[Thanos]

Yes. So far as I'm concerned Health Care is a PRIVLEDGE, not a right. On a personal level, I would rather die than accept monies and assistance from the government.

What about Tri-Care?

[TradeTheBeal!]

Obama is far more intelligent and moralistic than our current pres. I'm fine with it.

[DjTj]

if he was white he would have the same media coverage as Dennis Kucinich.

...or maybe John Edwards four years ago - some people just have "it."

And BTW, Chicago Law is probably the most conservative of the top 25 law schools. It was the birthplace of the law and economics movement and home to one of the founding chapters of the Federalist Society.

[HSW]

Yes. So far as I'm concerned Health Care is a PRIVLEDGE, not a right. On a personal level, I would rather die than accept monies and assistance from the government.

No problem there. I would rather let you pass away then give

you a dime.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

What about Tri-Care?

I will admit to not being terribly well versed on the Tri-Care military health system. So far as I'm concerned we should be providing standard medical coverage for full-time military personnel and their families. It's the least we can do considering what they give up to do the job and how poorly we compensate them. Once they leave the service, however, I am nowhere near as in favor of providing them medical coverage at government expense.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

My wife told me last night, I should run for President when I'm old enough. Her reasonings were "Because all you do is fix things and make them better, no matter what the problem is you fix it"..

I love my wife =)

She was just buttering you up for Valentine's Day...hoping for a nice gift!

[Peregrine]

People use the term "Christian" very loosely now a days.

I wouldnt vote for Obama in a million years, because unfortunately he has had enough experience to show his values are...well...not based on principles.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

No problem there. I would rather let you pass away then give you a dime.

I get the feeling this response might surprise you....

GOOD. It's a good thing that you don't want to spend a dime on my health. SO LONG AS you don't want to spend a dime on some Liberal's health, your parent's health, etc... It doesn't make sense to spend your money on somebody else's health. Especially through the government.

Now if your comment is based solely on disliking ME, and would pay money to support other people's health, then you're being disingenuous.

[Thanos]

I get the feeling this response might surprise you....

GOOD. It's a good thing that you don't want to spend a dime on my health. SO LONG AS you don't want to spend a dime on some Liberal's health, your parent's health, etc... It doesn't make sense to spend your money on somebody else's health. Especially through the government.

Now if your comment is based solely on disliking ME, and would pay money to support other people's health, then you're being disingenuous.

That burden is just passed to the states via their Medicaid programs good sir.Society pays for it in other ways to included America's overcrowded for profit prison system.We need to wake up to this problem before its too late.

[Midnight Judges]

Oh yah, here's Webster's definition Kilmer. You really should study up, because disagreeing with Midnight Judges could only mean that you're ignorant in all things economic. I'll do some studying as well!

Main Entry: so·cial·ism

Pronunciation: \ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm\

Function: noun

Date: 1837

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Exactly. We are not even close to fitting these definitions, but you and Kilmer are faithful to the Republican party the way I am faithful to the Redskins. It's just your team and you will root for them through thick and thin. I thought Patrick Ramsey was going to be a good QB because I wear burgundy and gold glasses, you literally think Dems are socialists because you wear Republican goggles. Go Team!

[zoony]

Exactly. We are not even close to fitting these definitions, but you and Kilmer are faithful to the Republican party the way I am faithful to the Redskins. It's just your team and you will root for them through thick and thin. I thought Patrick Ramsey was going to be a good QB because I wear burgundy and gold glasses, you literally think Dems are socialists because you wear Republican goggles. Go Team!

:laugh: Your knowledge shines thru again :applause:

I'm a registered independent. I voted for two democrats in the last election... Harold Ford Jr. and Phil Bredesen.

But by all means, keep building your straw man, it's all you have at this point. Leave the actual debate to the grown-ups, okay?

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[HSW]

I get the feeling this response might surprise you....

GOOD. It's a good thing that you don't want to spend a dime on my health. SO LONG AS you don't want to spend a dime on some Liberal's health, your parent's health, etc... It doesn't make sense to spend your money on somebody else's health. Especially through the government.

Now if your comment is based solely on disliking ME, and would pay money to support other people's health, then you're being disingenuous.

No, everyone else is OK. Just not you. j/k.

[Destino]

People use the term "Christian" very loosely now a days.

I agree. Many "Christians" these days define morality with sexuality, spend all day passing judgement on others, and only love like minded neighbors.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

That burden is just passed to the states via their Medicaid programs good sir.Society pays for it in other ways to included America's overcrowded for profit prison system.We need to wake up to this problem before its too late.

Notice I didn't say FEDERAL government, Thanos. I don't believe there's any state that has health care as a prescibed benefit/power of the government.

You mentioned the prison system... I don't believe that anything beyond basic medical care should be given to prisoners.

We do need to wake up... wake up and move away from government influence in yet another private industry. Before it's too late.

[Predicto]

law school professor at liberal U of Chicago

:laugh:

WTF?

U Chicago liberal? The home of Professor Antonin Scalia? Richard Posner? Frank Easterbrook? The place where law and economics was created? The birthplace of the Federalist Society?

For a member of the bar, your willful ignorance is appalling.