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Is anyone else besides me, uncomfortable with Barak Obama becoming our next Pres.?

michael_33

By michael_33
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twa

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With the goings on in this country and outside this country I think it is high time for a President with the credentials to properly perform the job of Commander in Chief.

Who would that be?

What I find funny( in a sick way) are those that say Obama is not black enough,yet are not considered out of line.

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headexplode

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Obama is a Socialist.

That's all I need to know.

He will NOT be getting my vote.

If Barack Obama is a socialist, then I'm the queen of England.

I know it's going to take Generations and decades to correct the things wrong with this country. It may take longer to fix than the 150 years it's taken to break it this badly. But the journey has to start with a single step. Nominating, running, electing, and letting a truly CONSERVATIVE politician would be a good first step so far as I'm concerned.

When has a CONSERVATIVE actually be put in a position of power in this country's recent history? Certainly not in MY lifetime. Let's actually give a CONSERVATIVE a chance to run things before saying they won't do a good job.

No Conservative has had any level of power in the Federal Government in my lifetime, so I'm not sure how you can say this. You're probably right that no CONSERVATIVE could actually win, but I'd like to see one party or the other actually nominate one at some point in time.

I think you should run for president, Mass.

Edit: I guess you're not quite old enough. But in 2012, you should run.

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Destino

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You know guys I have an idea:

Why not stop posting opinions on a guy you know nothing about, and instead using that time to actually answer some of your questions about the guy.

The thread was started by a guy that can't support Barak because he's muslim. The problem with that opinion being that he is not a muslim. These are the kinds of things that can be prevented if you take 5 minutes to read up a bit. A good start is to visit his site and find the "about" page that every candidate has. The last line would have cleared up the whole muslim thing: "His wife, Michelle, and his two daughters, Malia, 8, and Sasha, 5, live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ"

Presonally I haven't heard enough from Obama to make an opinion, but I don't like his stance on the war. We'll see about the rest of it.

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Mass_SkinsFan

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I think you should run for president, Mass.

Edit: I guess you're not quite old enough. But in 2012, you should run.

There's no party in this country that would have me, head. None that would even look at me, once they understood the things that I believed in and the fact that I do not compromise on or hide those things.

That's part of the problem with the system... The few people who might do what's necessary can never even find a party to support them, never mind WIN an election.

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I'm saying people are entitled to their own feelings and shouldn't have to justify them or made to feel bad about them.

Peoples perceptions are their realities.

He did not have to justify his feelings. But he decided to do that and so he started this thread. He asked the people if his feelings were justified and he got two types of responses:

1) No.

2) Yes but not for the reason he stated.

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EersSkins05

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You know guys I have an idea:

Why not stop posting opinions on a guy you know nothing about, and instead using that time to actually answer some of your questions about the guy.

The thread was started by a guy that can't support Barak because he's muslim. The problem with that opinion being that he is not a muslim. These are the kinds of things that can be prevented if you take 5 minutes to read up a bit. A good start is to visit his site and find the "about" page that every candidate has. The last line would have cleared up the whole muslim thing: "His wife, Michelle, and his two daughters, Malia, 8, and Sasha, 5, live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of Christ"

:applause:

This thread has gone on 3 pages and most of you are dignifying the original post which was at BEST uninformed, and at worst bigoted.

This is the reason the electoral system in this country is so effed up. People don't actually take the time to LEARN anything, they'd just rather be TOLD something and believe it.

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zoony

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I saw him on 60 minutes last week... he is very charismatic and he is very smart.

I liked his ideas about communicating more with our enemies. But I didn't like his plan to roll back tax cuts (only the wealthy my ass) and his desire for socialized medicine.

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Henry

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I'm saying people are entitled to their own feelings and shouldn't have to justify them or made to feel bad about them.

Michael_33 didn't have to justify his feelings. He chose to do so of his own free will. If he feels bad about them that's on noone but him.

Peoples perceptions are their realities.

So because M33 perceives Obama to be Muslim, he really is?

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Thanos

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I saw him on 60 minutes last week... he is very charismatic and he is very smart.

I liked his ideas about communicating more with our enemies. But I didn't like his plan to roll back tax cuts (only the wealthy my ass) and his desire for socialized medicine.

What is Medicaid & Medicare?

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Destino

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What Obama wants to put me on thru raising taxes... even though I have my own.

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The problem is people can't afford health care. One way to fix that is to tax people and have it provided for those that can't afford it. I don't like that solution.

I'd like to see is downward pressure on the cost of health care. Lowering costs as a way of making it more affordable. The cost of health care in this country is flat out crazy and a required service that every body needs. Something so essential with such a high consumer base shouldn't be priced so highly. Either the system is lacking competition, stunningly inefficient, or being artificially inflated by companies that for whatever reason are allowed to get away with it. Either way, something needs to be done.

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War Paint

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The problem is people can't afford health care. One way to fix that is to tax people and have it provided for those that can't afford it. I don't like that solution.

I'd like to see is downward pressure on the cost of health care. Lowering costs as a way of making it more affordable. The cost of health care in this country is flat out crazy and a required service that every body needs has so much volume that it shouldn't be priced so highly. Something needs to be done.

Health insurance premiums are insane. My parents health insurance is over $600 a month. They are pretty healthy too. $600 a month is insane. I'm a republican, but I am really on the fence in regards to what should be done with health care.

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The problem is people can't afford health care. One way to fix that is to tax people and have it provided for those that can't afford it. I don't like that solution.

I'd like to see is downward pressure on the cost of health care. Lowering costs as a way of making it more affordable. The cost of health care in this country is flat out crazy and a required service that every body needs. Something so essential with such a high consumer base shouldn't be priced so highly. Either the system is lacking competition, stunningly inefficient, or being artificially inflated by companies that for whatever reason are allowed to get away with it. Either way, something needs to be done.

I absolutely agree Des. The Insurance Industry & Pharmaceutical Industries are out of control. I've said as much in the past, and I posted links a few weeks back about the combined $1.6 billion those 2 industries alone have contributed to political campaigns since 1998. That is an insane amount of cash.

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Mass_SkinsFan

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Like it or not, I think socialized health care is inevitable in the US.

I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this but I'd rather have NO health care system than a socialized health care system. As somebody who has to see certain specialists on a fairly regular basis, I'd rather pay for it out of my own pocket than to have the government tell me how often I can see the doctors I need, and what treatments/medications I can use.

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Kilmer17

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Like it or not, I think socialized health care is inevitable in the US.

I hate it, but you are absolutely right.

Get ready to wait 6 months for important procedures.

And get ready for a secondary market of non-insurance doctors/health care for the rich.

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zoony

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And get ready for a secondary market of non-insurance doctors/health care for the rich.

Absolutely. It's happens every time the Socialist agenda wins out.

As liberal as I am on so many social issues, the economics of Democrats/Socialism always prevents me from taking the plunge.

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Thanos

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I'm sure I'll be in the minority on this but I'd rather have NO health care system than a socialized health care system. As somebody who has to see certain specialists on a fairly regular basis, I'd rather pay for it out of my own pocket than to have the government tell me how often I can see the doctors I need, and what treatments/medications I can use.

Your statement is insane.What if the person can't afford it out of pocket as yourself? I guess SOL for them right?

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