Anything MMA, except thumb wrestling

[Mickalino]

Nice interview. It sounds like Toney is a good dude he just knows how to talk **** with the best of them to sell a fight. It definitely worked thats why he's not upset he lost he just cashed in for his family.

Yep, he just knows how to sell a fight. Just like Chael Sonnen, neither of them are as ridiculous as they come off before a fight, they just know how to get people to tune in.

Of course, he's going to come across as a nice guy, after he was humiliated and humbled in front of the whole world. What else can he say, after being so dominated, and made quick work of, in such an undisputed way that no-one can argue ? Did he act like such a nice guy after any of his boxing matches ?

And when the attention in the interview turned to boxers who simply picked him to lose, his real bitter self was exposed. Just because another boxer picks you to lose, it doesn't make that boxer a wimp, just for not stepping in the cage like you did. They're just stating a fact.

Edited August 30, 2010 by Mickalino

[StillUnknown]

Of course, he's going to come across as a nice guy, after he was humiliated and humbled in front of the whole world. What else can he say, after being so dominated, and made quick work of, in such an undisputed way that no-one can argue ? Did he act like such a nice guy after any of his boxing matches ?

for the most part he does

[Mickalino]

Well, you certainly can't accuse Sonnen of merely selling a fight, or put him in the same category as Toney, because Sonnen obviously backed up his talk. So, as far as Sonnen goes, he was speaking what he truly believed and not making some kind of circus act.

[#98QBKiller]

Saw this on Sherdog:

Mark Kerr is a car salesman now:

http://www.infinitiofscottsdale.com/certified-sales-staff-bios.aspx

[Sebowski]

Of course, he's going to come across as a nice guy, after he was humiliated and humbled in front of the whole world. What else can he say, after being so dominated, and made quick work of, in such an undisputed way that no-one can argue ?

He could have said:

"he just laid on me for 4 minutes. That's all they do in that gay "sport", if you can even call it that. Just a bunch of guys trying to hump you. That's why I tapped. He wasn't hurting me. I just wanted him to stop sweating on me and humping me. Sorry, Randy. I don't swing that way. If he ever came to a real sport like boxing I'd kick his ass. I'm done with that mma BS. You can't pay me enough to let another man lay on me. I ain't no whore."

or something like that.

[StillUnknown]

He could have said:

"he just laid on me for 4 minutes. That's all they do in that gay "sport", if you can even call it that. Just a bunch of guys trying to hump you. That's why I tapped. He wasn't hurting me. I just wanted him to stop sweating on me and humping me. Sorry, Randy. I don't swing that way. If he ever came to a real sport like boxing I'd kick his ass. I'm done with that mma BS. You can't pay me enough to let another man lay on me. I ain't no whore."

or something like that.

this was pretty much what I was expecting him to say

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

There's an interview with Toney after the fight where he did sneak a word in to the effect of "he took me down because that's what scared people do." But that's really it, he accepted his loss and said he'd be back.

I agree he could have easily gone the boxing fan-troll route after the fight, and he pretty much didn't. It's hard to tell what Toney's REAL take on MMA is. The guy changed his tone about the sport every day leading up to the fight. Some days he would go off on how "gay" it was, some days he would describe how much he loved it.

I think deep down he thinks it's beneath him, but actually HOLDS BACK (imagine that) from constantly talking **** about it.

[Mickalino]

But that's really it, he accepted his loss and said he'd be back.

Dana White said he definitely would NOT allow Toney back. Or any boxer, for that matter. The boxing experiment is over.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Dana White said he definitely would NOT allow Toney back. Or any boxer, for that matter. The boxing experiment is over.

Yeah that was apparent right after he tapped out. I'm sure another promotion will pick him up, won't be surprised if Strikeforce gives him a shot.

Edited August 31, 2010 by d0ublestr0ker0ll

[StillUnknown]

Dana White said he definitely would NOT allow Toney back. Or any boxer, for that matter. The boxing experiment is over.

dana has changed his mind before.

if another boxer (one closer to his prime) with a big name wanted to fight mma, Dana would promote it guaranteed

[Sebowski]

There's an interview with Toney after the fight where he did sneak a word in to the effect of "he took me down because that's what scared people do." But that's really it, he accepted his loss and said he'd be back.

I agree he could have easily gone the boxing fan-troll route after the fight, and he pretty much didn't. It's hard to tell what Toney's REAL take on MMA is. The guy changed his tone about the sport every day leading up to the fight. Some days he would go off on how "gay" it was, some days he would describe how much he loved it.

I think deep down he thinks it's beneath him, but actually HOLDS BACK (imagine that) from constantly talking **** about it.

I disagree. I think if it was as big as it is now when he was 18 he knows it's probably what he would have been doing. It is the closest thing to a real fight and he always considered himself a fighter. He said he wants to do it again. Strikeforce will feed him a striker. Arlovski anyone? Rogers?

Edited September 1, 2010 by Sebowski

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

I disagree. I think if it was as big as it is now when he was 18 he knows it's probably what he would have been doing. It is the closest thing to a real fight and he always considered himself a fighter. He said he wants to do it again. Strikeforce will feed him a striker. Arlovski anyone? Rogers?

Hypothetical teleporation of 18 year old James Toney doesn't erase what he's said about the sport in real, actual life. It's clear he has his own idea of what a fight should be like. He considers some aspects of MMA cowardly and some of them manly. I'm taking this from what he's said, not speculating what he'd think of the sport if he was 18 again. He minces words all the time. "I'm an MMA fan, I'm a real fighter, but kicking's for girls, laying on each other is gay, takedowns are what scared people do."

Edited September 2, 2010 by d0ublestr0ker0ll

[#98QBKiller]

I disagree. I think if it was as big as it is now when he was 18 he knows it's probably what he would have been doing. It is the closest thing to a real fight and he always considered himself a fighter. He said he wants to do it again. Strikeforce will feed him a striker. Arlovski anyone? Rogers?

I think either of them would get knocked out by Toney if they decided to stand and trade with him, which is exactly what both of them would do. I'd hate to see what Arlovski looked like after getting punched on the button by Toney.

[Chachie]

Arlovski anyone? Rogers?

Herschel Walker?

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Sherdogs P4P:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-Pound-for-Pound-Top-10-26672

1) Anderson

2) GSP

3) Aldo

4) Edgar

5) Fitch

6) Rua

7) Shields

8) Machida

9) Evans

10) Melendez

[#98QBKiller]

Rua > Fitch

[lovetoaster]

Well looky, looky....

From MMA Junkie

Karo Parisyan vs. Dennis Hallman slated for UFC 123 in Michigan

by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Sep 02, 2010 at 3:00 pm ET

As it turns out, UFC president Dana White believes in second, or maybe third, chances.

Nine months after White gave Karo Parisyan (19-5 MMA, 9-3 UFC) his walking papers, the welterweight veteran is octagon bound once again for a meeting with Dennis Hallman (41-13-2 MMA, 1-4 UFC) at UFC 123.

Although not officially announced by the promotion, UFC 123 is expected to take place Nov. 20 at Palace of Auburn Hills in suburban Michigan.

Multiple sources close to the event today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that both fighters have agreed to the contest and are in the process of finalizing paperwork. The match-up was first reported by MMAFighting.com.

White said Parisyan would never again fight in the octagon when the Armenian-American fighter withdrew from a scheduled match-up with submission specialist Dustin Hazelett at UFC 106 this past November. It was the second last-minute withdrawal for Parisyan, who also bowed out of a fight against Yoshiyuki Yoshida at UFC 88 with a back injury.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/20517/karo-parisyan-vs-dennis-hallman-slated-for-ufc-123.mma

[Sebowski]

Sherdogs P4P:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-Pound-for-Pound-Top-10-26672

1) Anderson

2) GSP

3) Aldo

4) Edgar

5) Fitch

6) Rua

7) Shields

8) Machida

9) Evans

10) Melendez

No Lesnar?

[lovetoaster]

No Lesnar?

Yeah, that's a little odd, I would probably have Rua above Fitch and Lesnar between Rua and Fitch.

[thegreatbobo]

Yeah, that's a little odd, I would probably have Rua above Fitch and Lesnar between Rua and Fitch.

Well isn't the point of P4P based on skills and weight is thrown out the window? If that's the case then Lesnar deservably isn't in the top 10 because while his takedown and top ground game ground n pound would be top notch, his bjj, defensive guard, striking certainly wouldn't be. The way I believe that P4P works is if strength being equal whose skills would win out in that list. Looking at the list, I believe all of them would beat Lesnar. However, I didn't see Fedor on there. Just because he got subbed by a master bjj ace doesn't make him irrevelant. He should at least be below GSP.

[StillUnknown]

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Joe Warren = Lazarus

[Special K]

Yeah, my husband and I watched Bellator last night. He's friends with Joe so he was rooting for him. Everytime we've been out with Joe, I've come home thinking what a ****y turdmunch he is, so I was rooting against him.

We both thought he was going to get knocked out in the first round because his boxing isn't that good and he was leaning in and exposing himself way too much.

I will admit, his comeback was amazing. I'll give him that.

On a sidenote: My husband said Joe was always like that in wrestling too. Get past the first barrage then come back to win because he never gets tired. Insane.

[Patrick86L]

I'd hate to see what Arlovski looked like after getting punched on the button by Toney.

There might be a chance that Arlovski will fight against elite strikers because believe this or not but he is one of the fighters on the fan voting list for the K-1 WGP 2010 Final 16. Sherdog already has had multiple threads to vote him in so its possible. A part of me wants him to get in so K-1 would get more exposure in the states since he is a former UFC champ. Then there is the other part of me that worries about his health trying to fight against elite K-1 fighters. It's going to be a knockout or be like Aldo vs Faber but 10 times worse.

http://www.k-1.co.jp/en/poll/vote.php?vote_id=107

edit: and before you ask yes there is a kickboxer from brazil with the name Anderson Silva both with sick standup skills.

Anderson Silva (kickboxer)

Edited September 3, 2010 by Patrick86L

[Patrick86L]

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Battle of the epic ring entrances.

[d0ublestr0ker0ll]

Sick takedown at :28 by Sakuraba. Now we know where you got that idea, Randy.