Sebowski Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 That made my eyes hurt like hell!Also, Cro Cop claims he hasn't signed with Dream yet and still wants to meet with Dana about a possible UFC signing: http://www.5thround.com/06182009/articles/3713/cro-cop-%E2%80%9Ci-haven%E2%80%99t-signed-anything-yet%E2%80%9D/ IMO, he should do a one fight deal with Dream and rematch Overeem and then come to the UFC or vice versa. Either way, the fans want to see that rematch. The only reason I would want to see Cro Cop fight Overeem again is to watch Cro Cop get KTFO. Cro Cop is done. He got "lucky" with that eye poke. He was not impressive leading up to it. He hasn't been impressive since Pride died. Cro Cop is no longer an elite fighter. He has no business fighting anyone in the top 20 at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Is that Hines Ward that ST's laying out in your sig? All this time I always assumed it was Willie Parker and never even looked at his number. Yeah, that's Hines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 The only reason I would want to see Cro Cop fight Overeem again is to watch Cro Cop get KTFO. Cro Cop is done. He got "lucky" with that eye poke. He was not impressive leading up to it. He hasn't been impressive since Pride died. Cro Cop is no longer an elite fighter. He has no business fighting anyone in the top 20 at this point. Come on now, let's not be ridiculous. Is Cro Cop a top ten HW anymore? No. Will he ever be? Probably not. But he had already knocked Al-Turk down with strikes once in that fight. It was just a matter of time. He'll still beat middle-of-the-pack guys but not top competition. He's a "gatekeeper" as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 The only reason I would want to see Cro Cop fight Overeem again is to watch Cro Cop get KTFO. Cro Cop is done. He got "lucky" with that eye poke. He was not impressive leading up to it. He hasn't been impressive since Pride died. Cro Cop is no longer an elite fighter. He has no business fighting anyone in the top 20 at this point. ooh, I have to disagree if you mean his last fight not being impressive. He was moving well, he tossed Tuk off of him several times and was landing pretty good punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 (edited) Giant Sylvia Edited June 18, 2009 by d0ublestr0ker0ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Cro Cop vs. Mighty Mo at Dream 10. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/06/18/cro.cop/index.html Less than a week after apparently snubbing the UFC for Japanese mixed martial arts promoter Dream, Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic has agreed to fight Siala "Mighty Mo" Siliga on July 20 in Saitama, Japan, a source familiar with negotiations for Dream 10 told SI.com Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 That's a quick turnaround for a fight but Mo is a can anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 So is Lesnar legit, or was Couture just past his prime? BTW, don't forget, before WWE Lesnar was the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champ, and finished college 106-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 So is Lesnar legit, or was Couture just past his prime? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Come on now, let's not be ridiculous. Is Cro Cop a top ten HW anymore? No. Will he ever be? Probably not. But he had already knocked Al-Turk down with strikes once in that fight. It was just a matter of time. He'll still beat middle-of-the-pack guys but not top competition. He's a "gatekeeper" as they say. ooh, I have to disagree if you mean his last fight not being impressive. He was moving well, he tossed Tuk off of him several times and was landing pretty good punches. Because Turk is such a beast.:hysterical: That was a setup fight he should have dominated. Time will tell I guess. Let's see how he does against Mo in a month. If he is the favorite I'll be setting up an account and betting the house. ...and by house I mean apartment. Edited June 19, 2009 by Sebowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 how long did the fight last? did cro cop even get punched? we all know he has no more heart left in his chest but he did what he should have against that chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 MMA fight party at my pad on saturday. bbq, beer pong, MMA. cant beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) So is Lesnar legit, or was Couture just past his prime?BTW, don't forget, before WWE Lesnar was the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champ, and finished college 106-5. Both, but Randy was definately strong-armed into taking that fight on short notice and without a warmup before it. Couture left the UFC with the desire to fight Fedor and that probably would have been his last fight, however once that fight didn't materialize and he sent feelers back to the UFC, Dana White pretty much demanded that Couture take on Brock right away. Couture reluctantly took the fight. If you rewatch the fight, Randy actually was matching Brock's strength for awhile, he just got caught with a big punch, and once BRock gets on top of you it is nearly impossible to do anything after that, I was pretty impressed though that a 40-something year old Couture could match Lesner in the clinch. If only UFC could sign FEDOR!!! Edited June 19, 2009 by NoCalMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Carano/Cyborg is going to headline the card they are on. first time females will headline an MMA card on another note, Strikeforce Challengers on Showtime at 11pm(est) MAIN CARD Joey Villasenor (184.5) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (185) Tim Kennedy (184) vs. Nick Thompson (185) Jorge Gurgel (157.5) vs. Conor Heun (158.5) – 160-pound catch-weight Shayna Baszler (134.5) vs. Sarah Kaufman (134) Cory Devela (184) vs. Luke Rockhold (183.5) PRELIMINARY CARD (un-televised) Justin Davis (200)* vs. Dennis Hallman (191.5) – 195-pound catch-weight Brian Caraway (145) vs. Alex Zuniga (144) Lyle Beerbohm (160) vs. Duane Ludwig (159.5) Travis Doerge (184) vs. Landon Showalter (185.5) – 186-pound catch-weight Len Bentley (155.5) vs. Marques Daniels (154.5) – 156-pound catch-weight Steve Hadsel (170) vs. Taylor Roberts (170.5) – 171-pound catch-weight keep an eye on Sarah Kaufmann, she'll probably get the winner of Carano/Cyborg. Sarah can fight, great striker in her own right. she'll be a tough fight for Gina or Cyborg. i still don't like the fact they created a 145lb division just for Carano & Cyborg though. every other challenger to them will basically be fighting 10lbs above their usual fighting weight. it gives Carano & Cyborg a bit of an unfair advantage Edited June 19, 2009 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Man, so it's Cyborg's husband (!) vs. the boyfriend of pro boxer Holly Holm. :mmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Because Turk is such a beast.:hysterical:That was a setup fight he should have dominated. What? You're the one who said he got "lucky" with the eye-poke. Al-Turk's a can and Cro Cop whipped on him all round before the eyepoke. Al-Turk showed no offense for that fight and Cro Cop looked convincing IMO. Not sure what else Cro Cop could've done? :whoknows: Time will tell I guess. Let's see how he does against Mo in a month. If he is the favorite I'll be setting up an account and betting the house. ...and by house I mean apartment. :laugh: If that's the case sign me up. I'd love to have an aparment in Cali. Mo is better than Al-Turk because he has KO power, but he's just another can. That fatty will run out of gas like it's 1979. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 What? You're the one who said he got "lucky" with the eye-poke. Al-Turk's a can and Cro Cop whipped on him all round before the eyepoke. Al-Turk showed no offense for that fight and Cro Cop looked convincing IMO. Not sure what else Cro Cop could've done? :whoknows: :laugh: If that's the case sign me up. I'd love to have an aparment in Cali. Mo is better than Al-Turk because he has KO power, but he's just another can. That fatty will run out of gas like it's 1979. He could have kocked him out clean in the first like he would have done years ago. I guess I just wasn't as impressed with Cro Cop up until to the eye poke as you were. I also remember all too clearly what he looked like against Overeem in between crotch shots. He is too much of a one trick pony now. I'll rewatch the Turk fight and try to be objective. I take back my bet on Mighty Mo. I just looked im up and realized he isn't who I thought he was. I confused him for the black Kick boxer that wears a crown. Manoef? What's his nickname? Something similar? Anywho, taking that Mo fight instead of another UFC fight or a Japanense fight against a credible opponent just convinces me more that Cro Cop is done in this sport. I bet Dream offered him better fighters and he turned them down just like he did Cain for his last fight and the Overeem rematch before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 He could have kocked him out clean in the first like he would have done years ago. I guess I just wasn't as impressed with Cro Cop up until to the eye poke as you were. I also remember all too clearly what he looked like against Overeem in between crotch shots. He is too much of a one trick pony now. I'll rewatch the Turk fight and try to be objective. I take back my bet on Mighty Mo. I just looked im up and realized he isn't who I thought he was. I confused him for the black Kick boxer that wears a crown. Manoef? What's his nickname? Something similar? Anywho, taking that Mo fight instead of another UFC fight or a Japanense fight against a credible opponent just convinces me more that Cro Cop is done in this sport. I bet Dream offered him better fighters and he turned them down just like he did Cain for his last fight and the Overeem rematch before that. Probably did. He's apparently in the business of fighting cans now. He'd better do the Overeem rematch while he's in Dream though or the fans there will be disappointed too. Overeem has to fight Brett Rogers in Strikeforce first though which he should win, but you never know which Overeem will show up. Plus he's going to have to pass a steroids test after the Strikeforce event unlike in Dream. I think that's why he's pretty much avoided fights on American soil until now. Yeah you were thinking of Melvin Manhoef, he's a hell of a lot better fighter than Might Mo, but he's also a middleweight about 50 lbs lighter than Cro Cop. Take a look at the Al-Turk fight again, Cro Cop dominated it like he should have but I'd have rather seen him finish with a clean win. If he fights another can after Mighty Mo, I'm going to stop rooting for him. It's impressive that he just fought Al-Turk and he'll be turning around and fighting exactly one month and one day later but he's already had enough tune-up fights. It's up to him to not duck fighters and fight the best HW's he can now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah you were thinking of Melvin Manhoef, he's a hell of a lot better fighter than Might Mo, but he's also a middleweight about 50 lbs lighter than Cro Cop. Then there is always "King" Mo Lawal. But he is a LHW and only has four fights to date. But he is a rising star. I was just thinking that since he mentioned that he wore a crown and I do not think Manhoef does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah, you were probably thinking of King Mo, bowskie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I was just thinking that since he mentioned that he wore a crown and I do not think Manhoef does. Manhoef wears a dog collar and a leash to the ring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Manhoef wears a dog collar and a leash to the ring! Yeah apparently he's in to S&M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah apparently he's in to S&M Lol, that's the first thing I thought when I saw his trainer walking him to the ring on a leash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I watched the Liddell/Evans fight last night on SpikeTV. The Ice Man got KTFO. Holy crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebowski Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah, you were probably thinking of King Mo, bowskie. I might have thought all three were the same guy. Have they ever been in the same room together? :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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