michael_33 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I've only been watching since the late 70's till now... Although I really like our current situation with Cornelius Griffin,I don't quite think he's the best yet! Although,I think we can all agree what happens to our defense when he's not in the lineup? So who's the best DT we ever had...? But if we were somehow running a 3-4...And I could only have 1....It would be none other than my man......... DAVE BUTZ! Do you guys agree?or no? He's gotta be the most underated DT ever....Gotta be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 My grandad met him and gave me a Dave Butz autographed photo when I was a kid...that is when I became a lifelong Redskin's fan. I don't know much about him, but it's cool you brought his name up. I like Griff when all is said and done. The guy is a beast. HTTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butz in the time I have been watching (since '81) - by some distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleskins Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butz or Freddie Stokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieskin Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butz as far as i am concerned is easily the best DT i have seen, in fact i think that no one else comes close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butz, Coy Bacon, Tony McGee, Diron Talbert, Cornelius Griffin, & Big Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DButz65 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I have to agree with the first post, but i am slighlty biased Darryl Grant was pretty good too tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Butz, Talbert, Griffen. In that order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Did anyone say Dave Butz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 DAVE BUTZ! Do you guys agree?or no? He's gotta be the most underated DT ever....Gotta be! I agree....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witherspoon Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 One more vote for Dave Butz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 You also have to give Daryl Gardner some credit as well, even though he was only here one season. He absolutely tore it up in the middle for the one season he was here. Other than that, I'll say Griffin and Butz are pretty close. The thing that sets Dave apart was his tenacity and mean-streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlhjr34 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I'll throw another vote on to the Dave Butz pile too. Daryl Grant also was nice, but I think he's remembered mostly for his classic INT return in the '82 Championship game. Not that there is anything wrong with that! Griffin is headed towards the same class as Butz too though, he's a monster in the middle of our DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOG Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Daves helmet was the best! :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Butz, Talbert, Griffen. In that order. I'd go along with this order. Although neither was with the team for long, I also always likes Jumpy Geathers and Tim Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art McDonough Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butts. 742 tackles, 59 1/2 sacks, 7 recovered fumbles, and 15 1/2 forced fumbles. In 1982 he was voted to the All Pro Team, voted Defensive Lineman of the Year by the NFL Alumni Association, and won a Super Bowl ring. Not a bad career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloberknocker Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 I'd go along with this order. Although neither was with the team for long, I also always likes Jumpy Geathers and Tim Johnson. I agree with the order, You beat me to Johnson and Jumpy. Johnson was not flashy just solid and consistent. When Geathers was here he was almost unstoppable. I have never seen anyone crush a pocket like he did. It was men against boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosshog Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Dave Butz, Coy Bacon, Tony McGee, Diron Talbert, Cornelius Griffin, & Big Joe Coy Bacon and Tony McGee were both pass-rushing DEs, not DTs. In the last thirty years or so I would say Butz, Talbert, Griffin, Darryl Grant, and Jumpy Geathers for the forklift move/collapsing the pocket as a situational rusher. Tim Johnson and Eric Williams were solid players. Gardener had one good year. On the disappointing side, Dan Wilkinson, Sean Gilbert, and Dana Stubblefield all were a waste of a lot of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 On the disappointing side, Dan Wilkinson, Sean Gilbert, and Dana Stubblefield all were a waste of a lot of talent. That sure is a lot wasted money and draft picks sitting on that list! A little help, what was Jumpy's signature bull rush called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydshobob Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 It's kinda sad to say that there aren't a whole lot of guys to choose from who were with the team for any length of time. Of all the guys that have been mentioned I'd say only Talbert, Butz, Wilkerson and Grant were here long enough (or actually played DT or played it full-time) to be considered the best ever. I loved Talbert but Butz was the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ax Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 It should be, "AFTER Dave Butz, who was the best Redskins DT ever?" For me, it would be Talbert, then Grant, then Johnson. Butz' here career was better than any other two, combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 gotta argue with dan wilkinson and dana stubblefield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 gotta argue with dan wilkinson and dana stubblefield Please say that was a joke. I'll go with the Butz, Talbert, Griffin (with a bullet) order as well. edit: nevermind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Please say that was a joke. of course it was!:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 of course it was!:laugh: Good one, you got me hook, line and sinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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