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Bostic was not slow and Barton is not slow. They may play slower due to ****ty instincts but they are not slow

It’s crazy how that three keeps on giving. If Ben Johnson doesn’t come here, I would go after Slowik and Petzig. Both guys have really impressed me this season. Slowik for building a high flying offense with a rookie QB and average talent around him & Petzig for making Josh Dobbs look like a very competent QB and getting that O to out up a surprising number of points. Little known fact about Slowik is he spent a few years working for PFF in between his coaching stints

I believe @KDawg had a strong opinion that you want to use Quan in the box or as a nickel but that deep safety was not necessarily his strong suit (@KDawg correct me if I am wrong on this). If this holds, it wouldn't allow Quan to play to his strengths taking over Forrest's spot unless they rotate Kam from buffalo nickel to Forrest's spot)

The lack of height and higher end athleticism definitely hurt his upside. You could win and win big with him if you are able to get more high end talent around him.

@skinzplay What are you hearing about the prospective staff Ben Johnson may assemble? My worry when it comes to him is that he wouldn't seem to have a very good first degree network based on where he has spent his career (Miami in the down years, including time with Gase, and Detroit doesn't seem to have a lot of young high upside assistantsto bring with him...Engstrand, a Harbaugh disciple, gives off those vibes but it seems like the Lions are positioning him to take over as OC once BJ leaves Detroit)

And he was also Snyder’s chief outside advisor and gave us Ron. I hope Harris is not listening to him

Honestly, Forrest has kind of been a disappointment so far. He lacks the football IQ Kam has and is more of a box safety vs a deep half safety, which he has played more of. With Reaves out too, we will get to see what Quan is made of

I think this OL may be a good starting tackle and a better OL coach away from competence. Took a look ahead at 2024 FA and it is ugly. Getting a first round starting tackle with a high chance of being a Day 1 starter should be the top priority assuming Howell shows enough promise and we don’t end up in a position to take Williams or Maye. To me, that means being aggressive and trading the 2nd and more picks to move up.

I was initially thinking that but I think it is also coaching. It is telling that Forrest has regressed quite a bit this year and Butler doesn’t seem to have developed much. Also telling Martin is even less ready to play than Forbes based on what we saw in preseason. The safeties have also been responsible for the coverage busts. Until the SF game last year, there were a stretch of games where the D played very well without Holcomb (who was lost for the year relatively early). The guys playing well or relatively well are Fuller, BSJ & Curl, the higher IQ vets who are less dependent on coaching I highly doubt that our lead secondary coach Visselmeyer will have a job in the NFL next year. If I recall correctly, JDR plucked him from the HS ranks after coaching his son EDIT: This is one of the worst lead position coach resumes I have ever seen:

Bostic is a great example of a highly intelligent player that is a coach on the field who just can’t play the game himself

Folks around the league would better understand firing Ron at 2-9 vs 2-3. At 2-3, you look like you have a fast trigger as an ownership group. They are not going to fire Ron before the end of the season unless there is a massive nosedive and/or Ron loses the locker room

I saw a quote where DJ said he is feeling the same level of pain in his neck as a couple years ago when his season was cut short

Stand in line. He is going to be top of list for every HC opening this offseason. The more Howell looks like a franchise QB, the better it will bode for us to be the ones to get him. As of now, if I am him, the Chargers are my #1 choice

Dude was sandbagged by a guy with a low IQ (Jackson) and a guy who could not cover anyone (Collins). Everyone else played well or improved under him. Darby is a case study

What’s going to be telling is how many of these guys get scooped up by other teams when this staff is let go.

Fuller is gone. He is an older corner now and is not a guy you can allocate $10M/yr to. Curl may only be worth an overpay in a JDR scheme. What if the next DC doesn’t have a heavy use of a buffalo nickel in his scheme?

Sheehan said on his pod yday that he has heard that the secondary players really miss Chris Harris. He was the one guy who could have potentially taken over

Separate topic but I am liking someone in the Roseman mold as the FO leader. What I mean by that is a well rounded executive who understands analytics, contracts, cap, strategy, negotiation, scouting, etc. The issue with most NFL GMs is they are one dimensional or limited. A lot of these guys rose in the ranks as personnel people but I feel they haven’t mastered all elements. I would almost rather have a guy who may be weaker on personnel and scouting but has fantastic lieutenants he can fall back on for that element. One crazy idea would be for Josh & co to go outside the box and bring in a well respected powerful agent like Mulugheta. This tactic has paid off in other sports like the NBA - Bob Myers was an agent before coming to the Warriors

While you punt on midseason, the new FO leader and staff you bring in will already be working with other teams and developing files and opinions on prospects. It’s not like they will be starting from a cold start

Unless we finish in the top 5, Howell is going to be part of the pitch to get a hot HC candidate to come here. I think most understand the bust rate even with top 10 QB prospects. Given history, the odds are against a Penix, McCarthy, Nix, etc. What we are seeing is a guy who checks all the boxes except 1) height, 2) time to throw and 3) decisionmaking. You can’t fix #1 but you can fix/work around #2 and #3 with scheme and experience

It may be time for some personnel changes. Hudson deserves a shot to start. Barton is no sacred cow. Forbes needs to sit for a few games to get his mind right and we should let DJ be the nickel with BSJ and Fuller on the outside

Preseason against the Ravens RB in the open field lol

Can someone who understands Forbes's game a bit more explain to me why he can't play in the slot? Historically, slot corners have been the slight of build guys and slot receivers have been the 5-10 190 pound Wes Welker types. Yes, there are now exceptions like London and Kupp to be aware of but I feel this rings true often. Does Forbes just lack the quickness and hip fluidity to play inside?

They are starting George Fant while Howard is out. Fant had a 48 PFF grade last year

Their line at full strength is better than ours but they have missed Howard all season and Tunsil has missed time as well. They are starting Josh Jones at guard