Going Commando Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, PeterMP said: If they don't have CP3, they don't win game 5. They've got two shots,including a home game, to make an NBA championship. That's all you can really do as management. Kevin Love would be a waste on the Rockets because they have no use for his post play and he can't finish at the rim nor is a defensive fit (not athletic enough), and the 8th pick isn't a really valuable asset. They got rid of Shumpert's and Crowder's contracts. Golden State's management built a team that's already won two rings and is the favorite to win again. Kevin Love is an 18 & 9 PF/C that shoots 40% from three. Most teams could use that, especially one that has mobile, rangy defensive specialists at SF and C like Houston does. They're paying 20 million a year for the much lesser version of Kevin Love in Ryan Anderson. And an 8th overall pick isn't nothing, you don't think Morey could make hay with it? Especially with a rookie contract Clint Capela and cap space to work with? Shumpert and Crowder were much smaller contracts than JR Smith's and Tristan Thompson's and they took on far more money in exchange. Crowder's contract is a pittance, one of the better deals in the league for a starting caliber wing who can hit threes and play defense. Shumpert's only has a player option year for 11 million left. JR Smith has two more at 15 million per and Thompson has two more at 18 million per. George Hill has two more at 19 million per, that contract is an absolute anchor for the next two seasons. And Clarkson's deal has two more for 13 million per. That is an outrageous 65 million dollars per year over the next two seasons tied up in four replacement level rotation players. Almost two thirds of their cap. It's the reason Cleveland can barely hang with an injured, mediocre Boston team full of young players. And it's the reason LeBron is probably going to walk this summer, because they do not have the flexibility to make the kind of moves that will give him a chance at another ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Golden State's management built a team that's already won two rings and is the favorite to win again. Kevin Love is an 18 & 9 PF/C that shoots 40% from three. Most teams could use that, especially one that has mobile, rangy defensive specialists at SF and C like Houston does. They're paying 20 million a year for the much lesser version of Kevin Love in Ryan Anderson. And an 8th overall pick isn't nothing, you don't think Morey could make hay with it? Especially with a rookie contract Clint Capela and cap space to work with? Shumpert and Crowder were much smaller contracts than JR Smith's and Tristan Thompson's and they took on far more money in exchange. Crowder's contract is a pittance, one of the better deals in the league for a starting caliber wing who can hit threes and play defense. Shumpert's only has a player option year for 11 million left. JR Smith has two more at 15 million per and Thompson has two more at 18 million per. George Hill has two more at 19 million per, that contract is an absolute anchor for the next two seasons. And Clarkson's deal has two more for 13 million per. That is an outrageous 65 million dollars per year over the next two seasons tied up in four replacement level rotation players. Almost two thirds of their cap. It's the reason Cleveland can barely hang with an injured, mediocre Boston team full of young players. And it's the reason LeBron is probably going to walk this summer, because they do not have the flexibility to make the kind of moves that will give him a chance at another ring. Golden State got lucky without even really trying to get lucky. That doesn't have much to do with the management. If the guy that the Rockets took in the 2nd round turned out to be a first team all caliber defensive player, things would be different. In general, I don't see much demand for #8 picks in the NBA draft so, no, I don't think he could have done much with it. Especially, not that would have put them in a better position where they only need to win one game to make the NBA championships. When was the last time there was a big NBA trade for a pick that looked clearly like it was going to be about the 8th pick? Once you get to the 8th pick in the NBA draft, it really is a crap shoot. The fact that they are over paying for Ryan Anderson doesn't mean it makes sense for them to get Love. The fact that they have Anderson, and he's barely playing is an indicator of how unvaluable a Love like player is against a team like GS. Tucker and Ariza are plenty good shooters and Capella fills a role, and they're all better defenders than Love. (And Anderson is a better defender when playing GS than Love.) As soon as you put Love on the floor, the Warriors are seeking him out to attack and going at him repeatedly. They could not have replaced Paul with Love and be winning this series. They'd be worse on both ends of the floor. Crowder wasn't a starting caliber wing for them, which is why they traded him (nor is Shumpert), and he didn't start in Utah. The Cavs weren't going to fix their cap situation and trading Paul for Love and the 8th pick wasn't going to fix their cap situation. (Just to be clear, that's a disaster of a trade for the Rockets. It is a great trade for the Cavs. But it doesn't really impact the Cavs cap situation at all. Your logic in that respect doesn't make any sense. The Cavs shouldn't make the trade because their cap situation is messed up. Even if they make that trade, their cap situation is still screwed up. They should make it because it makes them better. However, they did help their contract situation. They had 2 guys that aren't NBA starters making NBA starters money, and they traded them for 2 guys that are getting paid NBA starting money that are actually NBA starters. Yes, they didn't totally fix the situation, but it is better.) Edited May 26, 2018 by PeterMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Would you take the Rockets +13 tonight? Can they keep it reasonably close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 hours ago, CRobi21 said: That's one massive choke if Celts lose game 7.. I don't believe LeBron losing this game will hurt his case for GOAT, but winning absolutely would help it. We're nearly unphased now by these near or over 30 point triple doubles. If he finally breaks 50 or more in a playoff game and pulls this off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, abdcskins said: Would you take the Rockets +13 tonight? Can they keep it reasonably close? I’m scared to death of this game. I love the Under, tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I agree with Barkley that Curry will poison the next generation NBA talent. He takes so many bad 3s but he makes them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Warriors leaking oil and little baby pee all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) Rockets are loose. Edit: maybe too loose. Edited May 27, 2018 by TryTheBeal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, TryTheBeal! said: I love the Under, tho. Wish I pulled the trigger on this. It was up to 214. No way they hit that the way both teams are playing. Clank central. Well, if the Rockets hit 3s like that it might. I should've taken them +13.... Edited May 27, 2018 by abdcskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 HOU out for blood! What a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Houston is closing out tonIght to be the man, you gotta beat the man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Tremendous swagger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Harden unlocked his stroke finally. Uh oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Golden State looks horrible. Kevin Durant playing hero ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Golden State somehow has forgotten how to play as a team. They are literally paying ISO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Warriors look worried. Smiles are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I mean, there's three quarters left, but if this is how the Warriors go out, dude, KD should get out of there. How can you have 4 all-stars, two of them being MVPs, and you're offense looks like that at home in an elimination game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I'm not seeing this ****... Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) Eric Gordon. Unconscious. But here they come. Goodness gracious. Edited May 27, 2018 by CRobi21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Gonna be hard to keep shooting this well with a seven man rotation. Hard to keep up that level of physical play on the perimeter too with only 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) Something was telling me Houston would shock the world tonight. Not surprised to see they're winning right now. Everything seemed to be too much in GS favor. Edited May 27, 2018 by CrypticVillain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Curry looks rattled. He's barking at teammates, red faced after calls, and pressing on offense. Doesn't mean he'll stay that way though, 3rd quarter is when he tends to blow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Curry and Durant are playing like ****. Warriors body language is off. Shot selection has been lazy and awful. Meanwhile Houston is dialed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Dubs have made three Finals in a row with two championships and a win away from a 3 peat. No surprise that they don't quite have that killer instinct. Rockets gonna make NBA Finals and Capitals in the Stanley Cup Finals. The Eagles won the Super Bowl. We live in bizarro world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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