Ignatius J. Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47331-2005Mar18.html Study: Risks Remain for Teens Who Pledge Abstinence By Ceci Connolly Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, March 18, 2005; 8:05 PM Teenagers who take virginity pledges -- public declarations to abstain from sex -- are almost as likely to be infected with a sexually transmitted disease as those who never made the pledge, an eight-year study released yesterday found. ****************************************************** So there are plusses and minuses to these programs. The part that concerns me the most is at the end $206 million for abstinence only education? It cost $206 million to make sure teachers teach less than they could be about how to stay safe and not pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 So abstenence promotes a higher % of people to engage in anal sex :laugh: I bet ya Bush never saw that one comming :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Defining abstinence as only abstaining from vaginal sex but not other genital contact is obviously flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 A eighteen year old ,7 years later?......I believe teaching abstinece helps in early teenage years in that it helps remove peer pressure while they mature mentaly. But can you realistically expect a 20- something year old not to fool around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by bearrock Defining abstinence as only abstaining from vaginal sex but not other genital contact is obviously flawed. Clearly, although I'm not sure whoever defined it thought those pledging abstinence would lack any sense whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golgo-13 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 This to me smacks of a study that had an agenda from the outset. You can ALWAYS find one study or another that will dispute a given principle. If you didn't then researchers wouldn't have jobs because all they would be doing is agreeing with the status quo. You have to be controversial to get ink in the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 For the record, abstinence from sexual behavior holds a 0 percent risk of the person getting a sexually transmitted disease. It's a 100 percent effective way here. And my daughter will know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TODD Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by chomerics So abstenence promotes a higher % of people to engage in anal sex :laugh: I bet ya Bush never saw that one comming :rotflmao: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 The study started in the Clinton Years when there was a need to know what the definition of IS was. However its correct that abstinence prevents STDs and pregnancy everytime its tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I think one of the things this study brings to light is that teenagers do not always abstain just because they pledge to do so. There is no substitute for good parenting and frank discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 For the record, abstinence from sexual behavior holds a 0 percent risk of the person getting a sexually transmitted disease. It's a 100 percent effective way here. And my daughter will know . Good luck Art. You have many tough years ahead of you. Enjoy the early, non-pressure years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfitzo53 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Originally posted by Art For the record, abstinence from sexual behavior holds a 0 percent risk of the person getting a sexually transmitted disease. It's a 100 percent effective way here. And my daughter will know . Very true, as long as that's understood to be any contact with the genitals, not just direct male/female intercourse. Also, if I'm not mistaken, it is possible to be carrying STDs without having had intercourse, so it's a good idea to get tested anyway, for the safety of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Ive heard of alot of girls at school who say they want to be a virgin when they marry, so they engage in only anal sex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I'm sure all the parents whose kids were abastaining so they don't get a disease are happy that their kids have this info so they can forget about abstaining since it doesn't seem to work. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSteve Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 So because they aren't abstaining means that abstinence doesn't work? That's illogical. The only conclusion you can reach from this article is that these kids aren't really abstaining from sexual activity. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I have two teenagers that I have taught abstinece combined with safe sex and it's shortcomings. So far it has worked well. Much like telling them not to drink,but if they do DON"T drive. seems like a mixed message but if the kids think they understand. If nothing else it delays sex untill they are more mature :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Originally posted by Cdowwe Ive heard of alot of girls at school who say they want to be a virgin when they marry, so they engage in only anal sex. Dang! Where were these chicks when I was in school! :twitch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Abstinence is a wonderful option if you have someone who is TRULY comitted to that lifestyle, however study after study after study shows that signing your name to a Abstinence promise sheet, has little to no effect on what you will end up doing in life. It is a much bigger decision then a sex ed class, or a lecture from a parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomerics Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by NoCalMike however study after study after study shows that signing your name to a Abstinence promise sheet, has little to no effect on what you will end up doing in life. I disagree, there's 13% who will be well versed in the sphincter gratification area. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Maybe it's me, and I don't mean to sound callous to others, espcially with those who have teenage kids, but I thought this article was pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 It is common knowledge the teenage girls seem to be more open to oral sex, even in cases where they don't want to have intercourse, but I didn't know that they are now also more open to anal sex as well........WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Study after study has shown that people lie, and don't give a crap about BS pledges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 If you show the teenagers the benefits vs the risks I feel you might be suprised . Of course mine are inteligent and have strong sense of self worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Show of hands.... How many of you were virgins until you were married?? Come on die hard conservatives, don't let me down, you didn't have sex did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by codeorama Show of hands.... How many of you were virgins until you were married?? Come on die hard conservatives, don't let me down, you didn't have sex did you? Code, you know the rules.. your liberal till your at least 18.. Then by 30 you change due to life exp... I heard throat ghonneria(sp) is apparent up... sorry for the spelling but i gotta go do bubbles... (not michaels monkey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Originally posted by Thiebear Code, you know the rules.. your liberal till your at least 18.. Then by 30 you change due to life exp... I heard throat ghonneria(sp) is apparent up... sorry for the spelling but i gotta go do bubbles... (not michaels monkey) :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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