profusion Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Simmsy said: I'll take your word for it, but it doesn't feel like I'm watching a playoff team. They're starting to look like one now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 BSPN saved the love fest that these two are having for Dal@ss for last when they scheduled this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Simmsy said: I'll take your word for it, but it doesn't feel like I'm watching a playoff team. The QB is really not good. They have to run the air out of the ball against good pass defenses and that’s what they are playing against. Of course the cowboys know this and are playing the run aggressively. And they are playing the counter to that, the screen, on the way to stopping the run. It’s just Dallas’ strength matches up with the Lions weakness really well. They need a better QB once you play defenses this ready for them. Imo of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Detroit, Eagles, SF all are at 11-4. Any one of them could get the #1 seed. Dallas could also get it if they win and Eagles/SF lose. Detroit doesn’t seem to be playing any differently than the other games I have watched. They really want to win this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Detroit, Eagles, SF all are at 11-4. Any one of them could get the #1 seed. Dallas could also get it if they win and Eagles/SF lose. Detroit doesn’t seem to be playing any differently than the other games I have watched. They really want to win this game. Detroit would need SF to lose, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Though, I do think Dallas is going to want to win next week regardless of the outcome tonight. The 5 seed likely plays Tampa. The 6 and 7 seeds would play in Detroit, Philly or San Fran. And if Dallas loses tonight, the Rams and Seahawks would be one game behind them. There is no question you’d prefer to go to Tampa than one of the other teams. Just now, Ball Security said: Detroit would need SF to lose, I believe. They’re playing the Rams in week 18. That could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 I tune in and Cowboys giving up a massive bomb. Makes u feel all warm and fuzzy inside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) I love the Lions' gameplan. With their strong run game, too bad they can't convert on short yardage. Edited December 31, 2023 by Leonard Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Leonard Washington said: I love the Lions' gameplan. With their strong run game, too bad they can't convert on short yardage. My nit to pick is in games against good teams the strong run game doesn’t translate into points. Against bad teams it does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Did the lions sign cheesman this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 30 rushes, 21 passes, 10 points. I know it’s personal preference. I hate run first offenses on 2023. If they could translate the running success to points, that’s one thing. But they don’t against good teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 That should be game with the way this Lions offense has been going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: My nit to pick is in games against good teams the strong run game doesn’t translate into points. Against bad teams it does. I agree. I'll add that it isn't a true strong running game if you can't convert short yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leonard Washington said: I agree. I'll add that it isn't a true strong running game if you can't convert short yardage. 30 rushes for 124 yards isn’t bad. I think Ben Johnson is the anti EB. He sticks to the run too much, while EB sticks to the pass too much. I’ll also say if Harris/Shen/etc are analytics driven, they’re going to be really skittish about the amount Ben Johnson runs the ball because it flies in the face of most analytics. That said, Shen does have ties to the Ravens and they have a run first offense. I hate going empty on 3rd and short. I hate it when EB calls it, I hated it when Turner called it, I hate it when Ben Johnson calls it. I hate it Sam I am, I hate green eggs and ham. Edited December 31, 2023 by Voice_of_Reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Lions should've taken the points. There is a difference between being aggressive and being stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: 30 rushes for 124 yards isn’t bad. I think Ben Johnson is the anti EB. He sticks to the run too much, while EB sticks to the pass too much. Detroit is 6th in the league in rushing attempts, 10th in pass attempts. I think you're really exaggerating how much they stick to the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: If they could translate the running success to points, that’s one thing. But they don’t against good teams. I dunno bout' all that. Many teams show very clearly how high run rate O's can still translate to scoring success. Ravens, Lions, and 9ers are some of the heaviest rushing teams in the NFL and they are all top 5 in scoring. They have each absolutely put it on good teams as well. and its not like the highest % passing teams don't have difficulty scoring. Us... The Jets... The Bengals... Eww... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Detroit is 6th in the league in rushing attempts, 10th in pass attempts. I think you're really exaggerating how much they stick to the run. 6th is way too high for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Dumb not to run on second down there and Dad can't take the sack on third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Kinda surprised they didn’t flag Hutchison there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 That Hutchinson dude is legit beast....wow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Just now, Rufus T Firefly said: Dumb not to run on second down there and Dad can't take the sack on third. Yeah, 2 bad plays back to back. But that sack is not in Dak. Hutchinson beat the RT immediately. Not much you can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 It’s amazing how much better Hutchinson is than Chase. Granted he is better than the majority of all DEs in the league but Chase was supposedly generational. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 minute ago, srtman04 said: That Hutchinson dude is legit beast....wow It must be nice to have a defender make play on third down during a big game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 That INT might have saved us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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