Jump to content
Washington Football Team Logo
Extremeskins

Convicted felon Donald Trump on Trial (Found guilty on 34 felony counts. 54 criminal count still in the air)


Cooked Crack

Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?  

31 members have voted

  1. 1. Will Trump be convicted in any of his cases?

    • Yes. He's going 4 for 4. (including Georgia)
    • He's going to lose 3
    • Two for sure
    • He's only going to get convicted in one
    • No. He's going to skate

This poll is closed to new votes


Recommended Posts

Another good article about the new charges...

 

The Real Goal of the New Mar-a-Lago Charges Against Trump

 

On Thursday, the Florida grand jury that indicted Donald Trump and his valet, Walt Nauta, in June for obstructing a grand jury investigation and conspiring to willfully retain classified documents, filed a superseding indictment. That means the grand jury issued a new charging document to replace the old.

It’s a bombshell.

The new indictment adds a new defendant, Carlos de Oliveira, Trump’s property manager at his Mar-a-Lago property. More importantly, it also adds explosive new charges that include allegations of a conspiracy to corruptly persuade another person to alter, conceal, delete, and mutilate security camera footage at Mar-a-Lago.

That footage presumably documented the unlawful retention of government documents. The new allegation is that Trump sought to have it destroyed after receiving a grand jury subpoena for it.

Of course, an indictment is only an accusation, not proof. And the defendants are innocent until proven guilty.

Without minimizing the importance of those legal facts, one can state the obvious: These allegations are dynamite for a trial jury. Special Counsel Jack Smith would not have allowed the grand jury to include the charges unless he had compelling evidence to prove them. That evidence at the very least appears to include testimony from Yuscil Taveras, a Mar-a-Lago IT employee whom de Oliveira allegedly cornered in an audio closet days after Trump received the subpoena and told “the boss” wanted the server deleted.

As an experienced prosecutor, Smith knows that defense lawyers’ bottom-line job is complete if they provide a jury with enough reasonable doubt so that a single juror resists voting to convict and hangs the jury. Smith is not blind to the fact that Florida, where the trial will take place, is Trump country, and that jurors who start out leaning strongly his way are likely.

What Smith appears to have done with this superseding indictment, however, is to have assembled the kind of case that that is so strong—and alleged misconduct that should be so offensive to any law-abiding citizen—that any majority in the jury room for conviction will be armed with the kind of ammunition that could overpower even the most recalcitrant hold-out.

Here are five reasons why the new charges are packed with punch for jurors.

First, you don’t need to be a criminologist, or even to have binged Law and Order episodes to understand that destroying evidence is what mobsters do to cover their tracks and try to stay out of the joint. Prosecutors call it “consciousness of guilt,” which can be the best available evidence of corrupt intent.

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/07/new-mar-a-lago-charges-against-trump-jack-smith.html

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trump Oddly Argues Jack Smith Can’t Charge Him For Jan. 6th as He Was Already Impeached For It

 

Former President Donald Trump made the odd claim on Friday that Special Counsel Jack Smith can’t charge him for crimes related to his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election and the Jan. 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol.

 

“How can Deranged Jack Smith bring a case on January 6th., as ridiculous as it is anyway, when I have already won such a case, and been fully acquitted, in the U.S. Senate? In other words, I was Impeached on this, and WON!!! ELECTION INTERFERENCE & PROSECUTORIAL MISCONDUCT, all rolled up as one. We are truly a Nation In Decline!” Trump raged on his Truth Social platform.

 

Trump’s lawyers met with Smith’s legal team earlier in the week to discuss the case. Trump subsequently put out a statement on Truth Social denying that a third criminal indictment was imminent, although most legal analysts and observers believe one is coming soon.

 

Click on the link for the full article

  • Haha 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Cannon better rule that the classified information has to reside and stay in a SCIF, without cameras or other recording devices including paper and writing devices allowed, only those with a clearance can see them in the SCIF, and Trump cannot express anything about them except to his attorneys with a clearance. 

 

If Cannon doesn't rule this way, I expect Jack Smith to appeal her ruling, and request that she's removed from the case. 

 

Update: cleanup writing.

 

 

Edited by LadySkinsFan
  • Like 1
  • Thumb up 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trump's Civil Trials Continue, Even As Criminal Indictments Loom

 

Donald Trump has so many legal problems they’re starting to bleed into each other. Just yesterday, we learned that Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who in April indicted the former president for falsifying business records to hide the 2016 hush payment to Stormy Daniels, has subpoenaed deposition testimony from the E. Jean Carroll defamation lawsuits.

 

To wit, Assistant District Attorney Susan Hoffinger addressed a letter to US District Judge Lewis Kaplan requesting clarification regarding the May 15, 2023 subpoena for the videotaped deposition of Trump on October 19, 2022. Portions of this deposition were showed during the first Carroll trial and they were … memorable.

 

Trump moved to quash the subpoena in New York Supreme Court, calling it an overbroad, improper fishing expedition in search of impeachment materials as well as a violation of protective orders in the federal cases.

 

Justice Juan M. Merchan agreed with the state’s argument that “certain publicly released excerpts of the deposition demonstrates that Defendant’s testimony included reference to a relevant Access Hollywood tape and address ‘the way in which defendant dealt with allegations of a sexual nature by women in the months leading up to the 2016 presidential election.” But, mindful of the protective orders in Carroll II, which concluded with a $5 million jury verdict in May, and Carroll I, which will go to trial in January, Justice Merchan’s instructed the parties to seek permission from Judge Kaplan to enforce the subpoena.

 

Judge Kaplan has ordered the parties to file any objection to the order by Tuesday of next week. 

 

Click on the link for the full article

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mar-a-Lago property manager does not enter plea in classified documents probe

 

The newest defendant charged as part of the classified documents case brought by special counsel Jack Smith against former President Donald Trump made his initial appearance in Miami federal court Monday morning on the charges against him -- but was not arraigned because he does not have local counsel.

 

Carlos De Oliveira, the Mar-a-Lago property manager charged in the superseding indictment last week, was ordered released on a $100,000 personal surety bond.

 

De Oliveira did not enter a plea Monday. He will be back in court on Thursday, Aug. 10, to be arraigned.

 

De Oliveira was newly charged in the case last week in a superseding indictment returned by a grand jury in the Southern District of Florida, adding on to the prior indictment filed against Trump and his longtime aide Walt Nauta in June.

 

Click on the link for the full article

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trump plans to toss John Eastman and Giuliani under the bus to escape Jan. 6 conviction: report

 

A new report from Rolling Stone claims that Donald Trump's legal team is planning to blame the former president's prior lawyers if he gets hit with criminal charges over his effort to illegally remain in power after losing the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

 

According to the publication's sources, Trump's lawyers are planning to argue that he was misled by attorneys John Eastman and Rudy Giuliani about the legal feasibility of having Vice President Mike Pence unilaterally throw out certified election results to declare Trump the winner.

 

One source told the publication that the strategy of blaming the lawyers he chose to listen to over the objections of his own White House counsel and senior officials of his own Department of Justice is "an argument the [former] president likes, and the team is on board with it."

 

The source then added that "John [Eastman] and Rudy [Giuliani] gave a lot of counsel... Other people can decide how sound it was."

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

I think we've known all along that Trump will throw anyone and everyone under the bus, including his own children, if it means saving his hide.  That being said, I expect Giuliani at least will turn on Trump.  Should be fun to watch.

 

03c40b88-62ee-4284-8887-49c1ceabfc84_tex

  • Like 3
  • Haha 1
  • Super Duper Ain't No Party Pooper Two Thumbs Up 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Cooked Crack changed the title to Trump arrest watch (Trump and his associate have been charged in a 38-count federal indictment)(Jack Smith brings new charges for altering or destroying evidence)(Trump indicted on four counts in federal court in Washington)

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...