Glenn Youngkin and friends.

[Ball Security]

30 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I can’t stand Gov. Sweatervest, but I don’t hate his tax plan. 
 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/12/15/youngkin-tax-cuts-virginia-budget-proposal/

 

Where did all that surplus come from. Did he inherit that or was it created in year 1?

[PleaseBlitz]

18 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

Where did all that surplus come from. Did he inherit that or was it created in year 1?

 

Some of both, and most of it is from Covid-related relief funds from the federal government and the fact that the budget assumed the economy would take longer to come back when, in reality, it basically roared back once vaccines became available. 

[EmirOfShmo]

20 minutes ago, Ball Security said:

Where did all that surplus come from. Did he inherit that or was it created in year 1?

Inherited 

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[PokerPacker]

just a couple items above that, I'm also seeing "Prohibit the unauthorized dissemination of video footage from correctional facilities"

 

I assume this is to be able to punish people who shine a light on the abuse of prisoners that goes on?

[Larry]

8 hours ago, PokerPacker said:

just a couple items above that, I'm also seeing "Prohibit the unauthorized dissemination of video footage from correctional facilities"

 

I assume this is to be able to punish people who shine a light on the abuse of prisoners that goes on?

Or just an attempt to extend the current paradigm of "the cops can record you any time they feel like, no justification needed, because no expectation of privacy. But you can't record them because you're violating their privacy."

[Cooked Crack]

 

[dunfer]

18 hours ago, PokerPacker said:

just a couple items above that, I'm also seeing "Prohibit the unauthorized dissemination of video footage from correctional facilities"

 

I assume this is to be able to punish people who shine a light on the abuse of prisoners that goes on?

abuse of prisoners?....These are murderers and the worst of us. They abuse eachother

 

Im guessing it has more to do with inmate tiktoks..... plus phones etc being contraband in prison

Edited December 17, 2022 by dunfer

[GhostofSparta]

13 minutes ago, dunfer said:

abuse of prisoners?....These are murderers and the worst of us. They abuse eachother

 

Im guessing it has more to do with inmate tiktoks..... plus phones etc being contraband in prison

https://people.com/crime/man-freed-after-serving-38-years-for-a-murder-and-rape-he-didnt-commit-dna-proved-his-innocence/

 

https://www.11alive.com/article/life/heartwarming/darrell-lee-clark-free-exonerated-released-floyd-county-brian-bowling-shooting-friend-gun-head/85-cd42c2df-13df-4ad5-a88a-79dda1251211

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/new-attorney-helped-clear-innocent-man-murder-sentence-32-years-prison-rcna35298

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-11-23/missouri-man-exonerated-in-3-killings-free-after-40-years-in-prison

 

So which of these 4 innocent men, chosen randomly after a quick Google search, who were wrongly convicted and then released from being wrongly imprisoned for crimes they never committed, do you think should be allowed to be abused by guards and other prisoners?

 

If you want more, I can do some Googling for you to find more innocent people who have been put in prison, but I'm doubting it's a numbers game that will convince  you to change your mind.

Edited December 17, 2022 by GhostofSparta

[PokerPacker]

6 minutes ago, dunfer said:

abuse of prisoners?....These are murderers and the worst of us

 

Im guessing it has more to do with inmate tiktoks..... plus phones etc being contraband in prison

Even if everyone in prison were there for murder (which they aren't, some are true low-lifes, like that 85 year old woman convicted of feeding stray cats (to trap them and take them to the vet to spay/neuter them and solve the stray cat problem) ), it is not okay to sadistically abuse people simply because they were convicted of a crime.  It is, in fact, baked into the Bill Of Rights in the form of the 8th amendment.

[dunfer]

What? what does an innocent man in prison change about prison?

 

Its hell on earth.. The walls are run by the guards, but the prison is run by the inmates. Dont go to prison

 

 

[PokerPacker]

Just now, dunfer said:

What? what does an innocent man in prison change about prison?

 

Its hell on earth.. The walls are run by the guards, but the prison is run by the inmates. Dont go to prison

What part of that makes it okay to sadistically abuse prisoners and outlaw creating video evidence of the abuse?

[GhostofSparta]

3 minutes ago, dunfer said:

What? what does an innocent man in prison change about prison?

...

Dont go to prison

Uh...well if innocent people go to prison, then clearly "Just don't break the law!" isn't a guarantee that I won't go to prison. So maybe there should be some sort of way to reform prisons so that they're not "hell on earth," and sometimes exposing places as "hell on earth" are the only way to change them.

Edited December 17, 2022 by GhostofSparta

[dunfer]

Just now, PokerPacker said:

What part of that makes it okay to sadistically abuse prisoners and outlaw creating video evidence of the abuse?

who is doing that though? usually the other prisoners

 

How are they recording it? with a smuggled phone

3 minutes ago, GhostofSparta said:

Uh...well if innocent people go to prison, then clearly "Just don't break the law!" isn't a guarantee that I won't go to prison. So maybe there should be some sort of way to reform prisons so that they're not "hell on earth," and sometimes exposing places as "hell on earth" are the only way to change them.

Sorry I dont know how to change the legal system so innocent people dont get charged

[PokerPacker]

3 hours ago, dunfer said:

who is doing that though? usually the other prisoners

It's other inmates, and it is also prison staff.  A lot of it is prison staff. In this study, more abuse came from prison staff than from other inmates, both of the violent and sexual kinds. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811042/

Which is somewhat astonishing given the inmate population is selected by nature of being convicts,  and it's a much larger population than prison staff.

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/prison-guard-pleads-guilty-sexually-abusing-inmates

https://incarceratedworkers.org/news/anatomy-abusive-prison-guards

https://www.legalexaminer.com/category/legal/inmate-abuse/

Is this all really news to you?  Is it surprising to you that people who would choose to go into a profession of low prestige and pay but high in power over other human beings might have a high incidence of abusing people they've been granted ultimate power over?  Considering that about 40% of police are domestic abusers, it shouldn't be at all surprising that people in a similar field who wield incredible power over captive potential victims that people--such as yourself apparently--don't give a **** about would abuse them.

 

3 hours ago, dunfer said:

How are they recording it? with a smuggled phone

Journalists?  Prison workers who are not okay with their fellow workers being horrible human beings?  You seem to be much more interested in snuffing out whistleblowers than stopping criminal abuse.  If you're so tough-on-crime that you don't blink an eye at prisoner abuse, then you should be in favor of convicting and punishing "corrections officers" of their criminal abuse of inmates, no?

Edited December 18, 2022 by PokerPacker

[dunfer]

22 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

It's other inmates, and it is also prison staff.  A lot of it is prison staff. In this study, more abuse came from prison staff than from other inmates, both of the violent and sexual kinds. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811042/

Which is somewhat astonishing given the inmate population is selected by nature of being convicts,  and it's a much larger population than prison staff.

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/prison-guard-pleads-guilty-sexually-abusing-inmates

https://incarceratedworkers.org/news/anatomy-abusive-prison-guards

https://www.legalexaminer.com/category/legal/inmate-abuse/

Is this all really news to you?  Is it surprising to you that people who would choose to go into a profession of low prestige and pay but high in power over other human beings might have a high incidence of abusing people they've been granted ultimate power over?  Considering that about 40% of police are domestic abusers, it shouldn't be at all surprising that people in a similar field who wield incredible power over captive potential victims that people--such as yourself apparently--don't give a **** about would abuse them.

 

Journalists?  Prison workers who are not okay with their fellow workers being horrible human beings?  You seem to be much more interested in snuffing out whistleblowers than stopping criminal abuse.  If your so tough-on-crime that you don't blink an eye at prisoner abuse, then you should be in favor of convicting and punishing "corrections officers" of their criminal abuse of inmates, no?

mabye your area is different than mine but i live in VA. I know Doc officers personally.  VA prisons are probably more concerned about prisoners teaching kids how to make hooch with tiktok, than exposing any major whatever

Edited December 18, 2022 by dunfer

[PokerPacker]

15 minutes ago, dunfer said:

mabye your area is different than mine but i live in VA. I know Doc officers personally.  VA prisons are probably more concerned about prisoners teaching kids how to make hooch with tiktok, than exposing any major whatever

You just keep posting conjecture and deflecting from criticism.  Question: If prisoners are already banned from having technology to make videos, why do we need a separate law to ban video that makes no mention of it being restricted to prisoners?

[PleaseBlitz]

16 minutes ago, dunfer said:

mabye your area is different than mine but i live in VA. I know Doc officers personally.  VA prisons are probably more concerned about prisoners teaching kids how to make hooch with tiktok, than exposing any major whatever

This is funny because (1) it assumes instructions for making pruno aren’t already widely available and (2) that any corrections officials anywhere give a damn about anyone’s kids. 
 

 

[PokerPacker]

1 minute ago, PleaseBlitz said:

This is funny because (1) it assumes instructions for making pruno aren’t already widely available and (2) that any corrections officials anywhere give a damn about anyone’s kids.

Wait, you mean kids might be able to learn things without prisoners smuggling phones up their asses to corrupt our children?

[PleaseBlitz]

Just now, PokerPacker said:

Wait, you mean kids might be able to learn things without prisoners smuggling phones up their asses to corrupt our children?

I’m pretty sure cell phones (and a lot of contraband) usually get brought in by the guards. They don’t make a ton and dont have a lot of oversight, so it’s a good way to pad their income. 

[PokerPacker]

Just now, PleaseBlitz said:

I’m pretty sure cell phones (and a lot of contraband) usually get brought in by the guards. They don’t make a ton and dont have a lot of oversight, so it’s a good way to pad their income. 

Sir, I am offended that you might think prison guards would commit crimes.

[PleaseBlitz]

6 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

Sir, I am offended that you might think prison guards would commit crimes.

I have a tangential involvement with this case. 
 

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/baltimore/press-releases/2013/thirteen-correctional-officers-among-25-black-guerilla-family-gang-members-and-associates-indicted-on-federal-racketeering-charges#:~:text=Correctional Officers Smuggled in Cell,Trusted Officers from Outside Baltimore

 

Basically, the dominant Maryland prison gang corrupted enough of the Maryland DOC that the gang ran multiple MD prisons. The gang’s leader also got 3 female guards pregnant. The press release linked above also discusses the smuggling of phones and other contraband by the guards. 
 

Edit:  my mistake, it was four corrections officers he knocked up, not 3. https://www.justice.gov/usao-md/pr/bgf-leader-tavon-white-sentenced-12-years-prison-baltimore-jail-racketeering-conspiracy

Edited December 18, 2022 by PleaseBlitz

[dunfer]

9 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

You just keep posting conjecture and deflecting from criticism.  Question: If prisoners are already banned from having technology to make videos, why do we need a separate law to ban video that makes no mention of it being restricted to prisoners?

I dont know. Perhaps to charge anyone on the outside helping with social media accounts? I have no idea

[Long n Left]

Dun and Dunfer

 

I saw that movie 

[Cooked Crack]

🤔

 

Edited January 10, 2023 by Cooked Crack