R3dskinFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Nothing should be done with QB this offseason except cut Wentz and recoup 28 mil in cap space. Resign Payne, upgrade OL via free agency and draft. We are stuck with Ron because the pending sale will make the head coach position impossible to fill with any reasonably talented head coach. Allow new ownership to hire the front office, allow the front office to hire coaching staff, allow coaching staff to plan for the QB of the future in 2024 draft or free agency. No way Ron has proven he should be trusted with any personnel decisions that will steer the direction of the franchise for the foreseeable future. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Quote Rivera on Howell today at practice - “He has a live arm…quick decision making…He took command early on” 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: SH already gives a more reassuring interview than Wentz's aw shucks presser on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: Howells gonna get Tuddy to shake dat ass Weirdest post of the day frontrunner right here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Weirdest post of the day frontrunner right here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Personally, aside from some dream scenario for Carr being cut and reworking his deal and Howell looking like a dumpster fire on Sunday, I’m cool with rolling into next season with Howell as the guy. I see no reason to have Ron making big costly deals for a QB to pair with Scott Turner, given the likely sale of the team. Let’s just coast and cross our fingers. If Howell ends up the goods, great. If he’s bad, a new regime gets a top draft pick. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Rivera has pissed me off with this QB mess. Howell should have been given the start weeks ago. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: Ron likely thought he could get a Howell a start next week Grant: This is the last week of the season, Ron. Ron: This week, really? He can't be blamed for the slight oversight as his complete and total focus was on winning this week. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Personally, aside from some dream scenario for Carr being cut and reworking his deal and Howell looking like a dumpster fire on Sunday, I’m cool with rolling into next season with Howell as the guy. I see no reason to have Ron making big costly deals for a QB to pair with Scott Turner, given the likely sale of the team. Let’s just coast and cross our fingers. If Howell ends up the goods, great. If he’s bad, a new regime gets a top draft pick. Agreed. Don't let Ron nor Dan make ANY major moves at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: I find we have a lot of fans that run with narratives that have no motive, this QB scenario is just another one on the pile. It’s much more likely the media got it wrong or ran with something not fully vetted than it is that Ron would care so much what social media thinks, he’s going to change everything and bow down to the Tweet Mafia. Plenty of stuff to be unhappy with Ron about of late, why not make stuff up. 🤣 I read through 10 pages of fans ripping Ron for a decision he didn't even make. No one cares to wait to verify anything anymore. This team is a negative energy dumpster. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: Agreed. Don't let Ron nor Dan make ANY major moves at this point. You know he can't help himself, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3dskinFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Personally, aside from some dream scenario for Carr being cut and reworking his deal and Howell looking like a dumpster fire on Sunday, I’m cool with rolling into next season with Howell as the guy. I see no reason to have Ron making big costly deals for a QB to pair with Scott Turner, given the likely sale of the team. Let’s just coast and cross our fingers. If Howell ends up the goods, great. If he’s bad, a new regime gets a top draft pick. I have accepted the 2023 season is going to be another struggle. Heinicke and Howell can compete for the starting position in camp. Either can hold down the fort with no worse results than we witnessed this season, provided we improve the OL. Snyder will not fire coaches and payout contracts so we are stuck with Rivera and the clown car of assistant coaches for the 2023 season. Hopefully the sale is finalized this summer and new ownership can clean house and prepare for 2024 after the 2023 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 One thing Howell has that no other QB on the roster has-- the kid is a natural runner. Wentz is a statue in the pocket, Taylor can buy time, but Sling'n Sam can actually run and make moves to shake defenders. Look for at least 2 or three plays where he breaks the defense with a big run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Rivera alluded to this in his presser. Good guy Heinicke. 11 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Good QBs like Carr don't hit free agency too often, I don't like the fact we're looking at next year as a mulligan, or a free pass for the new owner, I know the window between the purchase and free agency is tight but I think pressure needs to be applied immediately to the new owner to have their **** together and be ready to obtain talent. If you can spend $7B to buy the team then have your people ready to go day one so we can get better next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Rivera has pissed me off with this QB mess. Howell should have been given the start weeks ago. Then Wentz never should have been taken off IR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3dskinFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: Rivera alluded to this in his presser. Good guy Heinicke. Heinicke remembers the game plan that Scott Turner had for Kayvon Thibodeaux. I would offer to let Howell start as well. Good business decision. 😂 Edited January 4, 2023 by R3dskinFan 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4ever28 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Well, it is Sam Kinison. The movie is Back to School. It's got Rodney Dangerfield in it. Thank you for this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Rivera has pissed me off with this QB mess. Howell should have been given the start weeks ago. Yup after the bye week would have been the right move. Rons loyalty strikes again. Ugh. 😔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3dskinFan Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, R3dskinFan said: Heinicke remembers the defensive game plan that RBR had for Kayvon Thibodeaux. I would offer to let Howell start as well. Good business decision. 😂 typing to fast.... Scott Turner... not RBR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: Rivera alluded to this in his presser. Good guy Heinicke. So it turns out that RiverDope didn't even have the cajones to make the decision himself. He needed a friggin' push from Taylor to make the move. Sheesh...this whole crew can't get out of here fast enough for me. I tell you one thing "The Destroyer of Worlds" and "love 'em and leave 'em Jose" ain't gonna put up with this indecisive mess if they get hold of the team. Edited January 4, 2023 by CommanderInTheRye 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4ever28 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: Rivera alluded to this in his presser. Good guy Heinicke. Again, I don’t think TH is the answer at qb. But it’s things like this that would make me give him a contract as the backup for a long time 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 minute ago, CommanderInTheRye said: Sheesh...this whole crew can't get out of here fast enough for me. Amen!! I'd keep a few on staff, but RR and Scott go, absolutely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, R3dskinFan said: Heinicke remembers the defensive game plan that RBR had for Kayvon Thibodeaux. I would offer to let Howell start as well. Good business decision. 😂 Heinicke gets a bonus if he plays 60% of the snaps, so it's a bad business decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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