Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Conn said: For whatever reason, sack yardage isn’t removed from total yardage in the NFL, that’s a college thing Ah, I had no idea....👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 12 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: pretty amusing desciption from Tress. TH really is an unorthodox, sandlot type QB. Which IMO makes him the perfect relief QB. He doesn't shrink from the moment. Even when he makes mistakes. He drives DC's crazy with stuff that most defenses don't see very often. He throws a lot of balls that should be picked and yet gets away with a lot of risky throws. Like that relief pitcher in little league who just threw change ups and junk balls that could help a coach steal a few innings. I don't think TH being in the game is a waste of snaps. The newcomers to the offense benefit by seeing a more expanded playbook. Especially Dotson when he gets healthy. At least the boot game is back now. That helps the O-line. Howell is learning more from Heinicke than he was from Wentz. Hopefully, we'll see Howell finish off the season at some point. I don't want to see Wentz anymore though. I don't see the point. He'll be lucky to get a job as a backup going forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: As I've stated previously, the "F it, Terry's over there somewhere" throws for the most part, are entertaining. That's more an indictment on Wentz who couldn't find his best receiver with both eyes open!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 hours ago, SkinsFTW said: I think you meant one of the best records of the past 3 decades. Which is also a pretty hilarious fact. Washington is the new St. Louis/Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals. (Except the team hasn't relocated, yet. Indeed, a very sad and hilarious fact depending on the day! 10 hours ago, Conn said: You know that creating a make-believe hierarchy so that you can put yourself higher in it in order to feel like you’re better than others while watching this **** show is actually just an equivalent coping mechanism to the one you dislike those fans for engaging in, right? You’re playing yourself and looking like a fool while you do it. Thank you for outing yourself! But we all knew you'd be here 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 40 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Only 1 TD in the 2nd half...and I think the yardage might be a little high...was thinking he had like 47 yards in the 1st half. Then again the 161 might not include sack yardage that would be removed from the total yardage. Knew I should have double checked! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, skinny21 said: Knew I should have double checked! You got everything else right lol...I was mistaken about the 1st half yardage and if sacks were figured into the total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Heinicke basically confirmed what many of us thought, he does have great value on the roster. Wentz is all but done I think. The search for a #1 QB continues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Peregrine said: Thank you for outing yourself! But we all knew you'd be here 😉 You almost got a ban for trolling with your earlier post of "being here for the suffering..." We will be continue to have a bit of a hive influenced banty rooster parade. It was as inevitable as the silence of hive-rs during the first half. If next week's a win, even an ugly one, it will be the same and if it's an ugly game from heinie and a loss, then it will be the relative silence from his "enthusiasts." Many people responses are about as predictable as b.f. skinners pigeons. In the end, when overdone, it's participating in a perennial clown show featuring the qb position that will end, inevitably, with either a healed-thumb miracle-plus wentz return that goes well enough to have legitimate arguments to bring him back next year (odds about 50-1 against in my book) or heinie back to a backup here or somewhere else as his BEST case. In the meantime, it will be a week to week elevator ride for heinie guys who will blow the way the wind goes for each game he plays in. But there is no scenario where th is a long term starter so I suggest enjoy whatever fun you get out of what the TEAM does AND celebrating any of the the individuals contributing to anything positive. But try not to be an overblown dumbass on either extreme of our latest es "qb controversy spectrum."' That's the best way to make sure you can continue to share your special magic with the class. 😛 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jumbo said: But there is no scenario where th is a long term starter There is one in Madden. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: There is one in Madden. Even in Madden I had a lot more fun with Wentz as QB lol... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The "eyes closed" pass from other perspectives (and the Oline was just pathetic): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Interesting Gruden in 2014-esque response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: For whatever reason, sack yardage isn’t removed from total yardage in the NFL, that’s a college thing Thats not correct. Sack yards is removed from passing totals. Its how Wentz had minus passing yards in a few first halves this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, TMK9973 said: Thats not correct. Sack yards is removed from passing totals. Its how Wentz had minus passing yards in a few first halves this year. Ok, now I'm confused lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Ok, now I'm confused lol... TH only got sacked once for like minus 3 yards (going from memory so may be wrong). so doesn't really matter. BUT Im gonna confuse the HELL out of you. NFL removes sack yards from team passing yards but NOT from the QB. Meaning yesterdays stats has TH throwing for 201 yards but the commanders throwing for a total of 198 yards! (I just learned this by googling to see if I was correct). https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=401437798 Edited October 24, 2022 by TMK9973 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renegade7 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Est.1974 said: Credit to TH for turning it around second half. That game ended the Wentz experiment in my opinion. He’s done when TH goes in the field and gets more out of the players around him. And no, I don’t see TH as the answer still, my concern would be that this leaves us looking at TH and Howell next offseason....and another question mark around how they can upgrade at QB. Wentz isn’t getting 28mil or whatever his contract salary number is. Its one game, by this logic, Wentz got more out of his first game against Jaguars then Taylor did his first game against the Packers. If folks want me to jump on the "Keep Taylor In" wagon, he needs to show that in whole time Wentz is on IR. This is also fair to Taylor so if he gets torn a new one on MNF by the Eagles isn't used as the end all be all case closed evidence for bring Wentz back this season (although it should be). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Nutter_Butter Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, DJHJR86 said: I mean this makes Wentz look just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: This is also fair to Taylor so if he gets torn a new one on MNF by the Eagles isn't used as the end all be all case closed evidence for bring Wentz back this season (although it should be). Wentz should be done regardless of what Taylor does. Taylor starts until the team is out of contention, then its Howell time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, DJHJR86 said: Wentz should be done regardless of what Taylor does. Taylor starts until the team is out of contention, then its Howell time. Says who and for what reason? For beating a team that looks close to as bad as we are right now? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, TMK9973 said: TH only got sacked once for like minus 3 yards (going from memory so may be wrong). so doesn't really matter. BUT Im gonna confuse the HELL out of you. NFL removes sack yards from team passing yards but NOT from the QB. Meaning yesterdays stats has TH throwing for 201 yards but the commanders throwing for a total of 198 yards! (I just learned this by googling to see if I was correct). https://www.espn.com/nfl/matchup?gameId=401437798 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJHJR86 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: Says who and for what reason? For beating a team that looks close to as bad as we are right now? Wentz's finger says who. By the time he's healthy we'll either still be in contention or not. If we are, you don't replace Heinicke. If we aren't, you play Howell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Year 1: Haskins Year 2: Fitzpatrick Year 3: Wentz Year 4: ? If Ron makes it 5 years, I can totally see him opening each season with a new starting QB. Short of Wentz coming back and going on a tear, year 4 will be somebody new at this point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said: Wentz's finger says who. By the time he's healthy we'll either still be in contention or not. If we are, you don't replace Heinicke. If we aren't, you play Howell. He's a backup QB, if we are contention still he did his job, that doesn't mean he's the starter now. Defense and run game are both looking better now, any QB will look better with those two things. We know where this ends if Taylor stays in because we tried this last year we don't know with Wentz because how poorly the team was playing as a whole to start this season (we are notorious slow starters under Rivera, at this point we should not be freaking out by that and instead expecting it) Edited October 24, 2022 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Professor_Nutter_Butter said: I mean this makes Wentz look just awful. I wouldn't worry about it, that's just player talk. What did you expect him to say, that he doesn't trust Heinicke?... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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